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Chevrolet Volt window sticker
93 mpg on battery power, 37 mpg on gasoline power

After a cluster bomb that was unleashed yesterday when the Nissan Leaf was rated for an EPA estimated 99 mpg -- even though it is a "battery only" vehicle -- General Motors is dropping a bunch of digits on us when it comes to the EPA rating for its Chevrolet Volt.

According to the window sticker that will be plastered on all new Volts sold in the U.S., the vehicle is rate at an equivalent of 93 mpg when running on electricity, and a more sedate 37 mpg when the gasoline engine kicks in after the battery is depleted. This two figures combined give the Volt a "composite" rating of 60 mpg.

And here are some more numbers -- the Volt will have an official "battery only" range of 35 miles, while the total driving range (taking into account the batteries and the gasoline tank) will be 379 miles.

When the Volt was first announced, GM said that the vehicle would have a 40-mile range when running on battery power. The company recently revised that figure to 25-50 miles.

The Volt will go on sale later this month with a price tag of $41,000 before a $7,500 federal tax credit.



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RE: Not so stellar, but...
By Alexstarfire on 11/25/2010 3:13:05 AM , Rating: 2
I know the Volt is a better car, but come on. You have some pretty funky rationales. The Prius doesn't go to gas the second you hit the gas pedal. It depends on battery charge and acceleration, but it uses the battery for a second or two before turning on the ICE. I also don't understand your cost argument. A cheaper car with a rebate almost as big makes it almost as expensive? A quick look shows the plug-in Prius to cost about $27,500 before rebates, compared to $41,00 for the Volt. After rebates that's $22,500 and $33,500 respectively. That makes the Volt about %50 more expensive. That's not even close.


RE: Not so stellar, but...
By Masospaghetti on 11/25/2010 7:01:21 PM , Rating: 4
Prius plug-in is estimated to be $5000-$8000 more than a regular Prius. so $28,500-$31,500 before rebates for a stripper model.

While cheaper than the Volt, it also has less than half the EV range and is inferior dynamically, with slower acceleration and less lateral grip. It also has far fewer standard amenities (people conveniently forget that a "base" Volt has a lot of standard content). If you consider a loaded Prius model, there's no comparison - its more expensive AND less capable.

People are whining about 37 mpg in range-extended mode - this is a combined city/highway value and better than almost every other car on the market, except for the Prius. It matches the Camry Hybrid, Fusion Hybrid, Sonata Hybrid, and easily bests any gas-only vehicle sold stateside. Considering this is the Volt's least-efficient mode, it's very impressive.

After all, the point of this car is to use NO gas on a daily basis but not lose any flexibility as you normally would with an EV.

Also, people complaining that the EV range keeps dropping - GM stated 40 miles, EPA stated 35. How about Nissan? They stated 100 miles for the LEAF, and the EPA stated 73. Sounds like GM was closer to the target than Nissan was.


RE: Not so stellar, but...
By mmcdonalataocdotgov on 11/26/2010 7:13:22 AM , Rating: 2
Is that battery range before or after turning on the headlights, radio, windshield wipers, heater or A/C etc? I get 55mpg in my Prius under all driving conditions. Since I commute 40 miles each way, the Volt is a non-starter for me. If I had a 10 mile commute, I would consider it, but I bet that the ICE would kick in every day.


RE: Not so stellar, but...
By Masospaghetti on 11/28/2010 9:31:35 AM , Rating: 3
The overall mileage of the Volt is not going to be affected any worse than your Prius...it's not like the heater and A/C draw more energy in the Volt than your current vehicle.

In any case, the EPA test cycle includes A/C usage, not sure about the other accessories...but the power draw from the headlights and radio are pretty small compared to the 3-5 kW used by the a/c compressor.


RE: Not so stellar, but...
By Alexstarfire on 11/28/2010 4:59:44 AM , Rating: 1
The price I mentored was for the plug-in model they are debuting next year, if what I read is true anyway. The fact that the amenities aren't identical isn't meaningful to the consumer who is looking at the lowest price for each vehicle. You can not get a base Volt to match a base Prius or most other vehicles, simple as that. Comparing the minimum price for each vehicle is perfectly valid.


RE: Not so stellar, but...
By Masospaghetti on 11/28/2010 9:29:49 AM , Rating: 2
Hey, you can get a Cruze for $16,000. It's a much better deal than a BMW 328i!! It's about a third of the cost. /sarcasm

You absolutely have to compare identical trim levels because that is what you are paying for.


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