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Chevrolet Volt window sticker
93 mpg on battery power, 37 mpg on gasoline power

After a cluster bomb that was unleashed yesterday when the Nissan Leaf was rated for an EPA estimated 99 mpg -- even though it is a "battery only" vehicle -- General Motors is dropping a bunch of digits on us when it comes to the EPA rating for its Chevrolet Volt.

According to the window sticker that will be plastered on all new Volts sold in the U.S., the vehicle is rate at an equivalent of 93 mpg when running on electricity, and a more sedate 37 mpg when the gasoline engine kicks in after the battery is depleted. This two figures combined give the Volt a "composite" rating of 60 mpg.

And here are some more numbers -- the Volt will have an official "battery only" range of 35 miles, while the total driving range (taking into account the batteries and the gasoline tank) will be 379 miles.

When the Volt was first announced, GM said that the vehicle would have a 40-mile range when running on battery power. The company recently revised that figure to 25-50 miles.

The Volt will go on sale later this month with a price tag of $41,000 before a $7,500 federal tax credit.

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RE: They need to stop playing the funny numbers game.
By Hiawa23 on 11/24/2010 6:44:07 PM , Rating: 1
my head is about to explode with misinformation out there for these vehicles. I guess it's not possible that we will see a gasoline engined vehicle get 60-70mpg, & not be as ugly as a Prius, cuz let's be honest, for most of us, the only option will be gasoline vehicles. Why can't they improve MPGs for these vehicles by a huge margin, haven't they been making gasoline engined vehicles for decades? What's holding back the technology?

RE: They need to stop playing the funny numbers game.
By walk2k on 11/24/10, Rating: 0
By goku on 11/25/2010 4:13:51 AM , Rating: 2
They use imperial gallons in England, which is significantly larger than the gallons we use in the US. To give you a hint about how they don't have cars overseas that have mileage significantly higher than what we can buy here, just keep what I'm about to tell you in mind. In London, if you buy and drive a Prius, you are NOT subject to congestion tax. Also, the Prius is immensely popular in japan, another country touted for having very high fuel efficiency vehicles. London does this because the Prius really is that efficient. If the Prius wasn't so efficient, why is the Prius popular in Japan? Or why does the city of London work to actually prop up the sales of these vehicles?

Finally, keep in mind that the environmental regulations overseas are far less stringent than in the United States. We have the strictest emissions in the world with the state of California being the very most strict of all. No big oil conspiracy here, just people choosing to buy inefficient, large, HEAVY vehicles over smaller, fuel sipping compact cars.

By Masospaghetti on 11/25/2010 7:14:01 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, its a huge conspiracy. /sarcasm

Actually, it's because the American public is nonsensically, vehemently against raising the fuel tax, despite the societal costs. In Europe, cars get 60-70 mpg because 1) they use a different, larger gallon, and 2) fuel cost about $2 per litre or $8 per gallon.

Increasing the fuel tax here in the states would be the single best thing a politician could do for the country, provided the tax increase was offset with a decrease in another tax, such as income payroll tax . It's simple, expensive fuel causes people to consume less and demand higher MPG vehicles.

Keep in mind also that safety standards here in the US means that cars will always be heavy. Gas-only cars such as the new Cruze Eco are almost maxxed out in efficiency, IMO - small turbo engines, 6-speed transmissions, efficiency tires, aerodynamic tricks, lightweight wheels, etc. They might be able to get another +2 mpg from direct injection, but that's about it. 30/45 mpg is probably about as high as it goes.

By Targon on 11/26/2010 6:25:39 AM , Rating: 2
The 2012 Ford Focus will be getting close to 40 miles per gallon highway(US Gallons) and 160 horsepower out of a 2.0L non-turbocharged engine. Going to a 1.4L turbocharged should beat out that 30/45 number, and that is without further improvements to vehicle weight and design. Take that and cut it down to a 3-door hatchback design and you could get a bit better out of it.

Take the engine from that new Focus, put it into something the size of a Smart Car, and bingo, you hit 50 miles per gallon highway mpg.

By FITCamaro on 11/26/2010 3:43:52 PM , Rating: 3
You are insane if you think the US government will lower income taxes to increase gas taxes.

Plus its a dumb idea because its highly unlikely that the income tax would be cut enough to offset the costs increases in EVERYTHING that come as a result of extremely high fuel prices. Especially in states or cities that are far from ports. Europeans seem to forget that their countries are tiny in comparison to the US.

By Mint on 11/27/2010 9:40:30 AM , Rating: 2
How is it highly unlikely? If it's revenue neutral on the government's end, then it will be revenue neutral, on average, for the consumer.

By Masospaghetti on 11/28/2010 9:26:59 AM , Rating: 2
With the current "leadership" I don't think it will happen either, but it's pretty much the ONLY sane way to reduce fuel consumption. How practical it is in our current political climate, that's a different story.

Plus its a dumb idea because its highly unlikely that the income tax would be cut enough to offset the costs increases in EVERYTHING that come as a result of extremely high fuel prices.

And where would these "extra" expenses go? Would they vanish? People that use less fuel would end up with a net gain, people that depend on transportation would end up with a net loss. It's pretty simple, there's no money being obliterated.

And before you label me as a tree-hugging, bicycle riding hippie, realize I have a 40 mile commute every day to work and I drive a Ford Explorer with a big 4.0 all-iron engine.

By Mint on 11/27/2010 9:44:24 AM , Rating: 2
Unfortunately, it's political suicide.

Somebody tried that in Canada, where we are supposedly more environmentally friendly, and he lost a lot of seats in his party for trying to be so bold.

That's right: he outlined a plan to reduce income tax, add a carbon tax, and do it in a way that most people would wind up with more money in their pockets. As a result, voters shut him down.

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