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Mac lusts for PC's Blu-Ray ability.  (Source: Microsoft via YouTube)

Mac also seems to fantasize that he and PC are the female and male protagonists of Avatar.  (Source: Microsoft via YouTube)
"It's Blu-Ray -- it's built in," PC to awestruck Mac

For all the things Macs lack -- pre-installed FlashUSB 3.0, Blu-ray, and more -- you'd think that'd there'd be more clever commercials from Microsoft taking a jab at their fruity competitor.  While commercials like Laptop Hunters hinted at such things, they didn't just lay it out there.

Fortunately for Microsoft that's exactly what its new commercial does.  

In the commercial Mac and PC (laptops, not "guys", mind you) are flying aboard an airplane (conveniently named Windows 7).   As the pair settle in the PC fires up a Blu-ray movie --
Avatar.  Mac is awestruck.

"What is that?"

PC nonchalantly responds, "Oh it's Blu-Ray, it's built in -- you want to watch?"

Hesitant Mac ends of being sucked in to the awe of HD movies as he fantasizes of himself and PC as the female and male protagonists of 
Avatar.  Needless to say he ends up watching the whole film.

(We're not positive on this one, but the commercial may also have been making fun of the MacBook aluminum unibody cases' tendency to collect dust and grime, as the stewardess ask the Mac if it needs a dusting.)

So is it fair for Microsoft to be making fun of Apple's Blu-ray incompetence?

After all, on the one hand the standard is still very young.  While Blu-ray movies are becoming pretty ubiquitous, they're still more expensive (generally) than DVDs, and not everyone even has a Blu-ray player yet.

On the other hand, for a brand that brags about its media savvy, it seems odd to not to give customers access to the highest-quality video discs out there.  And the commercial isn't quite as in your face as the old "Get a Mac" spots -- it's more cartoony and cute.



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pretty funny.
By Luticus on 11/12/2010 2:24:35 PM , Rating: 5
I thought it was pretty funny... at least it was true. :)




RE: pretty funny.
By Souka on 11/12/2010 2:31:54 PM , Rating: 5
Yes, a true ad.

If Microsoft were to make an add like Apple does, they'd be sued, or at the very least blasted for making a slander advertisement.

I never understood why Apple can outright lie in its ads, yet not be in trouble for doing so.


RE: pretty funny.
By Luticus on 11/12/2010 2:34:36 PM , Rating: 3
It's the Jobs mind trick.

"You love mac" *waves hand*

:P


RE: pretty funny.
By dgingeri on 11/12/2010 2:39:38 PM , Rating: 5
Those tricks only work on the weak minded...


RE: pretty funny.
By priusone on 11/12/10, Rating: 0
RE: pretty funny.
By ClownPuncher on 11/12/2010 2:52:33 PM , Rating: 5
You accidentally used a sarcasm tag there.


RE: pretty funny.
By Helbore on 11/15/2010 12:15:46 PM , Rating: 2
In separate news, the government released a new report today detailing the overall decline in education standards for the general population.


RE: pretty funny.
By lainofthewired on 11/12/2010 7:08:49 PM , Rating: 2
Needs a 6.


RE: pretty funny.
By BWAnaheim on 11/12/2010 8:01:10 PM , Rating: 3
Or on a Kinect. :-)


RE: pretty funny.
By DominionSeraph on 11/14/2010 8:06:12 PM , Rating: 1
Po pi po pi po po pi po
Po pi po pi po po pi po

When Miku decides you like vegetable juice, there's just no fighting it. Your 200 yen is as good as gone.


RE: pretty funny.
By Denigrate on 11/12/2010 2:39:49 PM , Rating: 2
Mind trick? I suppose you could call having a legion of less than savy buyers a mind trick.

Besides, flaws and missing standards are features that allow you to feel superior.


RE: pretty funny.
By geekman1024 on 11/12/2010 9:32:52 PM , Rating: 3
Steve,quit waving your hand like a freaking Jedi!


RE: pretty funny.
By Ammohunt on 11/12/2010 3:40:12 PM , Rating: 2
becasue the are just like the elitists that typically use Macs.


RE: pretty funny.
By geekman1024 on 11/12/2010 9:34:17 PM , Rating: 2
and apparently, you are not using a Mac. What you need is a spell checker.


RE: pretty funny.
By dark matter on 11/13/2010 4:42:10 AM , Rating: 1
Yeah, because only Mac's have a spell checker.


RE: pretty funny.
By cruisin3style on 11/13/10, Rating: -1
RE: pretty funny.
By Spivonious on 11/12/10, Rating: 0
RE: pretty funny.
By RjBass on 11/12/2010 2:58:52 PM , Rating: 5
No it doesn't, your right. But any laptop from a big box manufacturer that has a blu-ray drive in it is also going to come with the intended blu-ray player software. That is just a given, but in the event that they don't, HP, Dell, Sony, Toshiba, Acer, Asus and all the rest are going to have a pretty tough time fending off angry customers.


RE: pretty funny.
By viewwin on 11/12/2010 3:00:43 PM , Rating: 2
Good, I wasn't the only one that caught the "Blu ray support built in" lie.


RE: pretty funny.
By PAPutzback on 11/12/10, Rating: 0
RE: pretty funny.
By namechamps on 11/12/2010 4:04:54 PM , Rating: 3
VLC only plays back ripped Bluray files.

I doubt Apple is going to respond that consumers can simply install an unsupported bluray drive, install some DMCA ifringing supports, rip bluray files to disc, then load up VLC and watch the movie.

By that logic Mac support Bluray because you can run a bittorrent client on Mac and download ripped movies.


RE: pretty funny.
By The Raven on 11/15/2010 11:44:34 AM , Rating: 2
MS's Xbox HD-DVD drives work on Macs from what I've read.
<irony police turn their badges in>

http://www.ehow.com/facts_7385786_do-xbox-hd_dvd-d...


RE: pretty funny.
By tastyratz on 11/15/2010 2:19:55 PM , Rating: 2
Well there is your answer.
You certainly cant expect a mac to support any new modern standard whether it be blu ray, usb3, or sata 6gb.

but it sure is shiny.


RE: pretty funny.
By bfellow on 11/15/2010 4:18:22 PM , Rating: 2
Apple is (still) on the BDA while Microsoft was supporting HD-DVD with its Xbox 360. It is ironic they are on opposite sides of the fence now the HD disc wars have ended.


RE: pretty funny.
By name99 on 11/15/2010 5:13:47 PM , Rating: 2
Which is why Apple partnering with Intel is the prime mover behind LightPeak?
And is doing every bit as much as MS to try to main-stream parallel programming?
And pushed computing on GPUs earlier and further than MS?
And designed and shipped AltiVec which remains, even today, vastly more elegant and capable than SSE 4.2 or whatever Intel is up to now?
And shipped multi-touch in usable form, first in phones, then on trackpads, way before the Windows world?

Meanwhile your forward-looking world held onto floppies for 10 years past their sell-by date, is still stuck with BIOS rather than EFI (how are those 3TB drives working out for you?), and, in this very thread, is defending optical storage --- a technology that is where floppies were fifteen years ago --- clearly on its way out.


RE: pretty funny.
By The Raven on 11/16/2010 10:21:37 AM , Rating: 2
Well cited everyone-should-know-this-by-now data from Wikipedia...
quote:
In 1983, Bell Labs at Murray Hill published a comprehensive discussion of touch-screen based interfaces.[9] In 1984, Bell Labs engineered a touch screen that could change images with more than one hand. In 1985, the University of Toronto group including Bill Buxton developed a multi-touch tablet that used capacitance rather than bulky camera-based optical sensing systems.[5] A breakthrough occurred in 1991, when Pierre Wellner published a paper on his multi-touch “Digital Desk”, which supported multi-finger and pinching motions.[10][11] Various companies expanded upon these inventions in the beginning of the twenty-first century. Mainstream exposure to multi-touch technology occurred in 2007 when the iPhone gained popularity, with Apple stating they 'invented multi touch' as part of the iPhone announcement,[12] however both the function and the term predate the announcement or patent requests. Publication and demonstration using the term Multi-touch by Jefferson Y. Han in 2005 predates these.[13]

Its not that M$ or anyone else's tech wasn't usable. There was no percieved market for it. I personally owned a tablet and I don't think I would ever have used multitouch had it been available. The reason was that I had a stylus in one hand that I would write with. Now Apple was the first one to say, "This could be beneficial on a phone, where people don't want to pull out a stylus!" and was the first to be successful marketing the tech. Somebody had to be first. I guess you could say that Apple deserves credit for multitouch as much as MS deserves credit for their GUI. (Tell any macinwashed individual that and their head might explode.)

And how forward thinking is Apple if MS was using tablet/touchscreen technology in the 80's while Apple just came out with their first one?

quote:
Meanwhile your forward-looking world held onto floppies for 10 years past their sell-by date, is still stuck with BIOS rather than EFI (how are those 3TB drives working out for you?), and, in this very thread, is defending optical storage --- a technology that is where floppies were fifteen years ago --- clearly on its way out.
This is the comment of a tech head (which I guess I am too). The rest of the consumers out there actually used floppies way past their heyday. I'm sure you could find someone trying to use one today lol. But whatever. Unlike Apple, the rest of the PC world allows people to use whatever tech (be it new or old) that they want to. That is the problem with Apple not supporting BD. I don't want to use BD myself (and FYI I was rooting for HD-DVD during the war) but if people want to use it, they should be able to.

Personally I don't understand it as a business move. Why as the HW retailer, would you not allow an upgrade like a BD player (or even a HD-DVD drive if you have some laying around out back lol) if your customer wanted it? Even it would be a stupid buying choice. You'd easily pick up a bigger profit from newer tech. And we all know that most Apple customers (how should I say) aren't afraid to spend money.

quote:
defending optical storage --- a technology that is [...] clearly on its way out.

Umm... last I checked, MacBooks still had DVD drives in them.

Look, this isn't a comment that is meant to just refute everything you said. I'm just saying that there is no do-everything, or do-everything-right company out there.

The fact that Apple doesn't support BD is laughable. Does that make them a laughable company? No. Don't take offense. They have contributed to the PC that we know and love just like any other company. But this article is about BD.


RE: pretty funny.
By robinthakur on 11/17/2010 7:51:04 AM , Rating: 2
A good, non fanboi retort, duly noted. I personally think that Apple are reluctant to encourage BD take-up because their future business model is based on subscription and rental purchases via iTunes, and BD quality is currently exponentially better than what can be streamed over most net connections. I greatly suspect that DVD is included on Mac, only with BC in mind, to enable windows dual boot to be installed and mostly to make HD rentals look good. You can see with the dvd-less MBA the way it is going ("The future of Macbooks") The fact that no software exists and that no compatible drives exist (to my knowledge, in the consumer space or otherwise) for BD supports this, though I don't really see how Apple can do business in the high end HD video editing stakes without it, unless that is mostly hard disk based.

Apple are silently fighting the same battle which they do against Flash, albeit slightly less vocally to take out a technology which they deem 'undesirable' in their ecosystem. There is simply no other explanation given how quickly they started shipping Macs with CD, DVD and DVD-R drives back in the 90's. They want the Mac users (who most definitely are not afraid of spending money and probably already own bluray players if they deem them important) to influence general opinion amongst computer buyers as to whether BD drives are even necessary.

Apple are very good at marketing tech. and packaging it to be used by the general public, which people might previously have been exposed to but not seen as a killer feature or even one which they knew how to use. It's very easy to forget quite how revolutionary the touch interface for the iPhone was at the time, with pinch to zoom, momentum based scrolling, swipes etc I remember thinking that I'd owned touch screen phones before from HTC and they were finicky, unresponsive and basically not very human-usable.

I was initally sceptical of the iPhone before I used one. From the moment I swiped to unlock, you knew that this was a touch interface like no other and that Apple had combined hardware with its software to create a unique and polished user experience. Whilst MS had tablet technology in the 80's, I'm reminded of Dr Strangelove's "What's the point of a doomsday weapon if nobody knows about it?!?"


RE: pretty funny.
By nafhan on 11/12/2010 3:14:52 PM , Rating: 2
Technically, Win 7 supports the use of Blu-ray discs it just doesn't come with codec support for movies. So, it does support Blu-ray out of the box. It's kind of like Win XP needing a third party codec to do DVD movies.
Realistically, watching Blu-ray movies is about the only thing anyone's going to do with a Blu-ray drive at this point. So, claiming to support Blu-ray is a little disingenuous.


RE: pretty funny.
By Smilin on 11/12/2010 3:38:43 PM , Rating: 2
I see.

So it works on a mac then?


RE: pretty funny.
By StevoLincolnite on 11/12/2010 3:59:28 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
So it works on a mac then?


I see this question asked to often at random places on the web.
I thought the entire point in buying a Mac was for it to "Just Work"?


RE: pretty funny.
By The Raven on 11/15/2010 11:58:27 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Realistically, watching Blu-ray movies is about the only thing anyone's going to do with a Blu-ray drive at this point. So, claiming to support Blu-ray is a little disingenuous.

Well if that is true, then this commercial is a complete joke because the benefit of a BD is lost on a 17" screen at comfortable viewing distances regardless of your resolution.

But I guess they couldn't have a Mac talking to a Win7 machine if they were hooked up to 40" 1080p displays. I mean who would have two screens like that hooked up within speaking distance in the same room tied to 2 different OSs?


RE: pretty funny.
By The Raven on 11/15/2010 12:00:28 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
But I guess they couldn't have a Mac talking to a Win7 machine if they were hooked up to 40" 1080p displays. I mean who would have two screens like that hooked up within speaking distance in the same room tied to 2 different OSs?

Oh I just solved my own problem I suppose. Just have the Win7 machine call the Mac and talk about how he is watching a BD and having the time of his life lol.


RE: pretty funny.
By foolsgambit11 on 11/12/2010 3:38:02 PM , Rating: 5
Well, the PC only says, "It's Blu-Ray, it's built in." I'll admit, the less-than-savvy consumer may think that means that Blu-Ray video playback is a feature of Windows 7, when in fact it only means that there exist PCs wherein a Blu-Ray drive is included internally. Lucky for those less-than-savvy consumers, if they buy a PC with a built-in BD drive, they'll get a program to play Blu-Ray movies as well, so they won't even know they were in error.

As for Macs, they currently only 'support' Blu-Ray movie playback by ripping the content from a drive first (someone correct me if this has changed - it was true the last time I checked). I'm not 100% sure why - maybe it's an HDCP issue or a licensing issue? Just this summer, Steve Jobs commented that Apple has no intention of including BD movie support in the near future, either, arguing internet content will make Blu-Ray obsolete.

Now please excuse me while I go back to watching a Blu-Ray movie on my PC laptop with Blu-Ray 'built-in'.


RE: pretty funny.
By Reclaimer77 on 11/12/2010 9:26:26 PM , Rating: 3
Picky much? I know there are lots of retards out there, but I find it hard to believe there are people who would be lead to believe Blu-Ray is an exclusive feature of Windows 7.

Commercials aren't five minutes you know, there isn't a whole lot of time to explain this stuff. Why complicate the issue? It's simple, on a Windows PC you can watch Blu-Ray, on an Apple you can't. The ways and means it's delivered don't matter to the end user.

After all, Blu-Ray on Windows "just works", right? :)


RE: pretty funny.
By dark matter on 11/13/2010 4:46:57 AM , Rating: 2
That's too funny Reclaimer,

Go back and read his comment again. I had to read it twice to get the gist of what he was saying. When you read it again, it's pretty funny to see you attempt to argue against him when in fact you're arguing with him.

I realise not everyone will get his post, but it sure brings out the trolls and its so funny because they don't even realise they are not arguing against him


RE: pretty funny.
By Reclaimer77 on 11/13/2010 8:24:19 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I had to read it twice to get the gist of what he was saying.


Okay so you're admitted you DID have to read it twice. Why be so judgmental then? Maybe I didn't have time to read it twice?

Kudos on him for being super subtle, but I don't think it's fair to call me a troll. I honestly debated him on, what I thought, were the merits of his post.


RE: pretty funny.
By foolsgambit11 on 11/15/2010 2:36:33 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry if my point wasn't clear. Sometimes I know what I'm trying to say, but it doesn't actually come out as clearly as I'd like it. You know the thing - when you reread something you've written, but because you know exactly what you mean to say, you don't notice that it's a little convoluted.


RE: pretty funny.
By MeesterNid on 11/12/2010 3:30:48 PM , Rating: 2
I think I've used the optical drive in my laptop a grand total of like 5 times in the past 3 years. The reason Apple doesn't make a jump to Blu-ray, in my opinion, is that they see very little future left in the optical medium, period.

Now the argument could be made that they still include a DVD drive in the current line of PCs, but adding new hardware requires QA, drivers, software, testing, etc...money.

In the end I'd rather see better/more SSD adoption and availability of high bandwidth internet connectivity instead of optical media support.


RE: pretty funny.
By Reclaimer77 on 11/12/2010 4:32:10 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
I think I've used the optical drive in my laptop a grand total of like 5 times in the past 3 years.


But you did use it, and it was there for you when you used it. And what would you have had to go through if it wasn't there when you needed it?

quote:
The reason Apple doesn't make a jump to Blu-ray, in my opinion, is that they see very little future left in the optical medium, period.


Well isn't that a nice excuse for keeping profit margins as high as possible. Blu-Ray is fairly new, and it's already a multi billion dollar industry. Not to mention standard DVD and CD medium. How can there be "very little" future left for optical medium? Maybe, MAYBE, in 5 years we'll see flash memory get to the price point where we can talk about phasing out optical medium.

quote:
In the end I'd rather see better/more SSD adoption and availability of high bandwidth internet connectivity instead of optical media support.


How in the hell are these mutually exclusive? If you don't think there will always be a demand for physical media, in some form or another, you're nuts.


RE: pretty funny.
By Pirks on 11/12/10, Rating: -1
RE: pretty funny.
By Reclaimer77 on 11/12/2010 5:19:23 PM , Rating: 2
Pirks nowhere in his argument did he specify internal or external optical. And using external optical is STILL using optical.


RE: pretty funny.
By Pirks on 11/12/10, Rating: -1
RE: pretty funny.
By Reclaimer77 on 11/12/2010 5:47:28 PM , Rating: 3
He's clearly talking about the disc format itself. The use of disks, hence, OPTICAL.

This isn't some discussion about the Mac Book Air and it's lack of optical. I have no idea why you're trying to turn it into one.


RE: pretty funny.
By Pirks on 11/12/10, Rating: -1
RE: pretty funny.
By Alexstarfire on 11/12/2010 7:33:08 PM , Rating: 4
You, Reader1, and Tony Swash seem to lack the understanding of the meaning of context. In the very next sentence he talks about optical media in general.

One could certainly argue the usefulness of an internal optical drive, but one rarely, if ever, argues that optical drives are completely useless. Even Apple seems to realize this since even the Macbook Air has the ability to use the optical drive in another Mac.

The problem, as with all Mac products, I see is that you don't even have an option.


RE: pretty funny.
By Boze on 11/12/2010 9:28:14 PM , Rating: 2
Ironically the Macheads and jumping to the defensive on YouTube as well.

The bottom line is that 25 - 50 GB of storage on a disc is still a lot. Another 3 to 5 years and I imagine Blu-ray will supplant DVD technology altogether. Any new console that comes out will use Blu-ray, that'll help spur adoption in the coming years as well. Blu-ray burners are getting cheaper every quarter, we just need the media to take a nosedive as well, since that's where the real expense is.

Now if someone can make a huge leap in technology to allow for 250 GB discs, then I'd be really impressed with optical.


RE: pretty funny.
By farquaid on 11/13/2010 9:25:47 AM , Rating: 2
I must agree with reclaimer on this one. There will be need for optical media for quite some time.
I bought a blueray rewriter a couple of months ago and i havent used it a lot. I bought a few movies and rented a couple of others. I ripped them all to the harddriver for ease of use and load them from there. But i will need the drive as soon as i want a new movie.
So far there are no alternatives to the quality blueray offers here in sweden. I think all legal streaming/downloading options are DVD-quality. Illegal 1080p movies have pretty good quality but if i want something to keep i want it to be perfect quality.

But i probably represent 1% of the population or less in this case. The population who uses a htpc with blueray drive to watch movies on a projector.

Blueray support on a laptop is a different matter though. A 17" screen doesnt do blueray any justice. So the blueray support for laptops is just a waste unless you connect your laptop to a projector or 50"+ screen.


RE: pretty funny.
By bug77 on 11/13/2010 7:22:32 AM , Rating: 2
Haha! You just blew your cover Steve. Because only the Steve knows what other people mean. Even when they don't.


RE: pretty funny.
By name99 on 11/15/2010 5:17:30 PM , Rating: 2
"But you did use it, and it was there for you when you used it. And what would you have had to go through if it wasn't there when you needed it?
"

Uhh, go to Amazon/Frys/eBay/Craigslist and buy a USB optical drive for $30?
Then plug it into the mac and start ripping/burning?


RE: pretty funny.
By Aibo on 11/13/2010 5:58:12 PM , Rating: 4
Apple is all about if we don't have it, you don't need it. Once we have it, it's the greatest thing ever made even others have been doing it for sometime.

If you like the best possible video and audio quality movies, Blu-ray is all you can get. Forget all those hypes of HD streaming video. The picture quality is so heavily compressed and the audio has barely reached Dolby Digital 5.1.

So, if you want to watch Blu-ray movies on the laptop, having a Mac simply doesn't have it unless you go the ripping route. Even then, the largest hard drive can't store that many Blu-ray movies unless you want to heavily the quality down.

But whatever I said, Mac fanboys will continue to believe Apple's decision, don't have it, don't need it.


RE: pretty funny.
By name99 on 11/15/2010 5:27:28 PM , Rating: 2
So your argument is what? That Apple should support BR because it is the "best quality" video delivery option?

This was what music companies said 10 years ago: no-one wants mp3s because CDs are higher quality audio. And you know what? The average person values convenience vastly more than they value some sort of mythical "superior quality".

Apple feels it can do just fine by providing a solution that matches the desires of most people. If your needs are very different from most people, admit that, and accept that you will have to seek a specialized solution --- don't whine, lie, and pretend that your hierarchy of values matches that of the rest of the world.

I, for example, use LyX and LaTeX all the time. It would be immensely convenient for me if Apple just included these in the base OS --- and, heck, if they provided programmers to work on LyX and fix its many bugs. But I don't delude myself into imagining this is a sensible use of Apple's resources; instead I accept the world as it is, and download and install a new TeX Live distro manually every year.


RE: pretty funny.
By Reclaimer77 on 11/12/2010 4:21:01 PM , Rating: 3
Yes it is true, and funny :)

But seriously:

quote:
So is it fair for Microsoft to be making fun of Apple's Blu-ray incompetence? After all, on the one hand the standard is still very young. While Blu-ray movies are becoming pretty ubiquitous, they're still more expensive (generally) than DVDs, and not everyone even has a Blu-ray player yet.


This isn't 2008. Even I, who was not a fan of the Blu-Ray format at first, has to admit that it's far from being "new".

The biggest problem with Blu-Ray, in my opinion, is that it launched without having any traditional set top DVD models available. You were pretty much forced into the PS3. Which didn't jive with those who just wanted to watch movies on their TV, the PS3 isn't even compatible out of the box with universal remotes.

Secondly, of course, was the cost. Thankfully $40 dollar Blu-Ray's are a thing of the past, and quality set top players are now available that aren't a small fortune.

So, and again this is coming from a staunch former Blu-Ray hater, I think Microsoft is being more than fair. And Apple, again, should feel shamed.


RE: pretty funny.
By mckinney on 11/12/2010 5:21:09 PM , Rating: 2
I dont understand your point. Should MS feel shamed for not including it in their entertainment console? Xbox is hooked into Netflix for streaming media, and I am sure that it is for a reason. Apple is hooked into Itunes for the same reason. Both want to sell video rentals.


RE: pretty funny.
By Reclaimer77 on 11/12/2010 5:26:59 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
Should MS feel shamed for not including it in their entertainment console?


The Xbox is a game console. With some media entertainment built in. But just because Sony built their console around Blu-Ray doesn't mean Microsoft must now be compelled to.

You're comparing Apple to oranges here. I think you DO understand my point, you just don't like it.

Again, I refuse to accept this double standard. If Apple can fly off half cocked and slam Microsoft with outright lies and phony commercials, then I think Microsoft is well within their rights to point out the simple fact that your Apple will NEVER enjoy the premier high definition video format.


RE: pretty funny.
By mckinney on 11/12/10, Rating: -1
RE: pretty funny.
By Alexstarfire on 11/12/2010 7:45:58 PM , Rating: 3
Kinda think he meant just the PS3. MS obviously didn't have support for it since both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray were mad expensive when the 360 came out. Which was a year before the PS3 came out in case you forgot. The cost would have been astronomical.


RE: pretty funny.
By mckinney on 11/12/10, Rating: -1
RE: pretty funny.
By Reclaimer77 on 11/12/2010 7:29:26 PM , Rating: 5
You know what man, correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't laptops in the commercial and not consoles?

All of your posts are the classic moving the goalposts fallacy. And I'm tired of continuing it. This was a WINDOWS commercial, not a MICROSOFT commercial. They are making the point that Windows 7 PC's and laptops support Blu-Ray and Apple doesn't. Why are we talking about the Xbox and PS3 so much??

Microsoft Windows and Xbox divisions are entirely separate anyway. You're trying to move the argument to a place where you can associate some twisted form of double standard across a company wide portfolio where none exists.

quote:
Your just MS bias. No news here.


And you're impartial? Please. For all the reasons I pointed out, and more, you're just as biased.


RE: pretty funny.
By adiposity on 11/15/2010 12:56:04 PM , Rating: 2
I agree with you. This is about laptops and not consoles. And one division has little to do with the other.

On the other hand, it is a bit ironic to hear Microsoft (of any division) touting Blu-ray support, after having backed the competing format in the past (and continuing to deny xbox owners any way of playing blu-ray on their 1080 capable boxes).


RE: pretty funny.
By mckinney on 11/12/2010 5:11:04 PM , Rating: 2
Since XBox doesnt support BR, I wonder if Sony will do this back to microsoft.


RE: pretty funny.
By Smilin on 11/15/2010 10:12:35 AM , Rating: 2
They have been for years. The gripe just doesn't resonate enough with consumers.


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