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Steve Jobs says that any tablet that dares compete with his iPad is "dead" before it hits the market.  (Source: Engadget)

Steve Jobs is back at it again, claiming, yet again, that analysts are lying about Android outselling the iPhone.  (Source: Jason Mick/DailyTech LLC)
Steve Jobs wasn't above talking a bunch of trash about his competitors in his company's earnings call

During his company's earnings call last night, Apple, Inc.'s chief executive, Steven P. Jobs let slip an interesting tidbit of information.  He believes that the iPhone, for the first time, has passed Research in Motion, makers of the BlackBerry, in sales.  Mr. Jobs showed little interest in playing the role of a gracious winner.  He rubs the victory in RIM's face, stating, "[I don't] see them catching up in the foreseeable future."

Perhaps that was fair given RIM's recent struggles -- or perhaps less than fair, given its longer-term pattern of success.  Mr. Jobs was far from done, though. 

He went on to once again accuse analysts of lying about claims that Google had passed the iPhone in sales.  He asserts that 275,000 "iOS devices" are activated a day, compared to only 250,000 Android devices.  If Mr. Jobs wanted to convince the public that Apple is beating Android in the phone market, though, he wasn't exactly doing a terrific job, given that iPad 3G activations also count as a "iOS device".

Surprisingly Mr. Jobs did admit that Google passed the iPhone in sales for one month -- June.  He blames this, though on the "transition" to the iPhone 4, which he is fond of labeling as "magical".  The iPhone 4, Apple's problems-plagued handset well known for its defective antenna, did show a bit of "magic", taking analysts by surprise and selling 14 million units last quarter, despite its flaws.

He says that the Android's multiple OS version on the market and multiple hardware partners make it uncompetitive.  He comments, "We believe integrated will trump fragmented every time*." (* "Every time" except June, that is...)

And he says that his competitors' tablets are doomed.  He said any device hoping to compete with the iPad will essentially be "DOA" (dead on arrival).  And as to the 7-inch Android tablets like the Samsung Galaxy Tab and Dell Streak, which are flooding the market, he says that they are "useless" for customers, commenting, "This size is useless unless you include sandpaper so users can sand their fingers down to a quarter of their size."

Apple's own tablet, the iPad, interestingly, was the weakest part of the company's earnings report falling short of analyst predictions and only moving 4.19 million units.  Apple, though claims that this is due to supply issues.  It claims that Apple is selling every unit it can produce.

Apple executives in the earnings call failed to explain discrepancies between this statement with past reports that Apple was producing up to 2.3 million units a month (and thus should have had 6.9 million available units for the quarter).

Mr. Jobs remains bullish on his company's tablet.  Rather than focus on that it fell short of analyst expectations, he instead focused on that it had passed the Macintosh ("Mac") computer lineup in sales.  He says that when it comes to cannibalization of the computer sales by the iPad, "It's not if, it's when."

Andy Rubin, Google's Android took issue with the rhetoric from his fruity foe.  Live on Twitter, he microblogged last night:
the definition of open: “mkdir android ; cd android ; repo init -u git://android.git.kernel.org/platform/manifest.git ; repo sync ; make”
So is Android too fragmented to succeed?  Are analysts lying about Google passing Android in smart phone sales?  And are Google's 7-inch tablets "doomed"?  Mr. Jobs seems to think so.

Then again he might be wise to remember that old quote by philosopher George Satayana, "Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it."

After all, Mr. Jobs might recall that two and a half decades ago his company was on top of the personal computer market and trying to hold off a "fragmented" competitor -- Microsoft.  And by that same token, some analysts just a year ago were dismissing that an Apple tablet would be "useless" consumers -- the same kind of rhetoric Mr. Jobs is now directing against his competitors.


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Say one thing about Jobs
By Denigrate on 10/19/2010 9:44:07 AM , Rating: 5
He has balls the size of Mt Everest. Sad thing is his denial is also Everest sized.




RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By superPC on 10/19/2010 10:02:33 AM , Rating: 5
you know steve job is the only CEO that never admit other company achievement (well he did admit MS superiority in the late 90s but that was when he needed MS to support it with office and cash). ballmer admit iphone and ipad great sales figure. even eric schmidt praises apple a number of times. eric is steve job friend and steve never even once credit google for android success.

you know a great man is a man that can learn from his own mistakes. if you never admit other people accomplishment, how can you learn from them and realize your mistakes? steve job is not a great man...


RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By AstroGuardian on 10/19/2010 10:51:05 AM , Rating: 5
Aside for not being great that man is an a$$hole


RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By yuffie03 on 10/19/10, Rating: -1
RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By solarrocker on 10/19/2010 11:53:59 AM , Rating: 5
quote:
MS took him to the cleaners when it stole the code for the GUI that Apple had purchased from Xerox.


You got this a bit incorrectly stated. Apple never bought any code for a GUI from Xerox. They did the same as MS, they just copied what they saw from their competitors.

Anyway go praise your magical god before you get a heart attack.


RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By Tony Swash on 10/19/10, Rating: -1
RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By solarrocker on 10/19/2010 1:34:48 PM , Rating: 3
They saw it and copied it pure and simple. So basically what I said is still valid. They didn't purchase the GUI, they bought the rights to look it over.


RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By The Raven on 10/19/10, Rating: 0
RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By solarrocker on 10/19/2010 2:19:57 PM , Rating: 2
They did get sued, but Xerox waited to long and was not successful(is one story). It waited till Apple sued MS for looking like their OS (Look and feel). Then Xerox sued Apple for the same reason, which was fairly fast dropped.


RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By solarrocker on 10/19/2010 2:23:42 PM , Rating: 2
Yes "admission" would be a better word then rights, sorry English is really not my primary language.


RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By Tony Swash on 10/19/10, Rating: -1
RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By BailoutBenny on 10/19/2010 3:49:56 PM , Rating: 5
Apple didn't take Xerox's work and transform it into the fundamentals of anything. Xerox's work established the fundamentals. Everyone else copied and refined. These are all Wikipedia links, so take them as you will, however the information therein is pretty accurate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PARC_(company)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphical_user_interf...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_graphi...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xerox_Alto
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xerox_Star

Xerox PARC pioneered almost every aspect of the modern PC, they just failed to capitalize on their innovations.

Tony Swash also plagiarizes. Almost his entire post is a copy/paste from this article with no attribution:

http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macin...

Notice that the last article was written by an Apple employee who defected from Xerox. Take it with huge grains of salt cause we all know that a former Apple employee is NOT going to admit that they stole most of their work and ideas from another company.


RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By Tony Swash on 10/19/10, Rating: -1
RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By mfergus on 10/19/2010 5:33:26 PM , Rating: 2
You are very strange.


RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By Pirks on 10/19/10, Rating: 0
RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By Tony Swash on 10/19/10, Rating: -1
RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By Pirks on 10/20/2010 8:51:16 AM , Rating: 2
No, I mean the guys who invented PC with Sphere 1, Altair 8800, NRI and IBM 5100. Way before Apple started making their own PC clones. You should have known history better, Tony.

This is where Jobs stole his ideas from -> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f... <- eat that Tony :P


RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By JediJeb on 10/20/2010 3:35:37 PM , Rating: 2
Don't forget the TRS80, Comodore64 and Atari x00 and x00XL series that came out at or before the same time as the Apple II. Actually I believe Atari was using a dedicated graphics chip before Apple did. I remember my Atari 800XL would do color display even when my friends Apples would only do green monochrome.

Back then with 6 or 7 companies working on totally different systems there was even more innovation than there is now. 8 bit, 16 bit and I even used one system that had a 20 bit processor and language made by Nicolet Instruments to control their machines. I also remember learning Basic to write my own programs while a friend of mine in high school learned Assembly to write programs for his Atari. I kinda miss those non-cookie cutter days.


RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By Tony Swash on 10/19/10, Rating: -1
RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By Pirks on 10/19/10, Rating: -1
RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By The Raven on 10/19/2010 1:56:44 PM , Rating: 1
That is like saying that the Chinese allowed Marco Polo to see ramen noodles in exchange for him patronising their hotels. Then of course he runs off with the idea for spaghetti!!! ;-)


RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By 91TTZ on 10/19/2010 1:44:27 PM , Rating: 4
Apple never purchased the GUI from Xerox. Xerox didn't see much money in that, so they didn't pursue it. Apple and MS copied it.

Apple was no innovator, they copied it just like MS.


RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By Bruneauinfo on 10/19/2010 10:07:48 AM , Rating: 2
i believe you're referring to his wallet.


RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By xaders on 10/19/2010 2:51:47 PM , Rating: 2
Steve Jobs made bold words!!! Apple, you are not the center of the universe and if apple is so rich & profitable now why dont they help the poor like Bill Gates. Even Facebook Founder & CEO donate money if we dont know how much he is worth. Steve Jobs is laughing all the way to the bank!!

Wait & see because 2011 will be the year of tablets.


RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By Bruneauinfo on 10/19/2010 4:52:34 PM , Rating: 2
let it go man!


RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By superPC on 10/19/2010 10:13:08 AM , Rating: 5
and again he said iOS device
quote:
If Mr. Jobs wanted to convince the public that Apple is beating Android in the phone market, though, he wasn't exactly doing a terrific job, given that iPad 3G activations also count as a "iOS device".
. how can you compare all of iOS device activation which include ipad, ipod touch, and all of iphone to android devices activation? that's not a fair comparison.

i guess he misses his morning medication again...


RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By PorreKaj on 10/19/2010 11:19:52 AM , Rating: 1
iPods doesnt count


RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By acase on 10/19/2010 11:20:48 AM , Rating: 3
That, and I would wager that the overwhelming majority of Android activations are new customers, whereas Apple is just getting people to stop using their old Apple product and buy a new one. Without attracting new customers, and with superior products out there, these old customers will (hopefully) slowly see the light and start to switch, and eventually Apple will be dominated.


RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By killerroach on 10/19/2010 11:52:43 AM , Rating: 3
Agreed. Since I know Apple's said they sell noticeably more iPod Touches than they do iPhones (I'm on my second Touch now, and have never bought an iPhone), their number about "iOS activations" is disingenuous to say the least.

If and when 60-75% of Android's devices sold are tablets and MP3 players, then we'll talk about comparing apples to apples.


RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By Tony Swash on 10/19/2010 12:05:26 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Agreed. Since I know Apple's said they sell noticeably more iPod Touches than they do iPhones (I'm on my second Touch now, and have never bought an iPhone), their number about "iOS activations" is disingenuous to say the least.


How can that be true if total iPhone sales for the quarter were 14 million and total iPod sales were 9 million?

Something does not add up.

Can you offer a link to where Apple says what you claim it said.


RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By superPC on 10/19/2010 12:06:40 PM , Rating: 2
and right now we're just comparing apples to android?

God i wish android has a different name. orange for example. so we all can say you can't compare apple to oranges :-P


RE: Say one thing about Jobs
By RivuxGamma on 10/19/2010 2:13:55 PM , Rating: 2
You must mean they're the size of Apple. Nothing is bigger than Apple.


I declared...
By MrBlastman on 10/19/2010 9:50:24 AM , Rating: 4
Steve Jobs and Apple dead to me a long time ago. Life has been so much better with this enhanced set of clarity calming my mind.




RE: I declared...
By amanojaku on 10/19/2010 11:02:53 AM , Rating: 6
Eric Schmidt: No more products do you require. Already know you, that which you need.
MrBlastman: Then I am an Android.
Schmidt: No. Not yet. One thing remains. Jobs. You must confront Jobs. Then, only then, an Android will you be. And confront him you will.

Schmidt: Remember, an Android's strength flows from the open source. But beware. Poor build quality, exclusive deals, false advertising. Marketing are they. Once you start down the marketing path, forever will it dominate your business practices. MrBlastman... MrBlastman... do not... do not underestimate the powers of the share holder or suffer your father's fate you will. MrBlastman, when gone am I... the last of the Androids will you be. MrBlastman, the open source runs strong in your family. Pass on what you have learned, MrBlastman. There is... another... Open... Source.
[Schmidt dies]

Jon Rubinstein, of Jobs: He's more machine now than man; twisted and evil.

Steve Jobs: You cannot hide forever, MrBlastman.
MrBlastman: I will not fight you.
Jobs: Give yourself to the iSide. It is the only way you can save your friends. Yes, your thoughts betray you. Your feelings for them are strong. Especially for... fork. So, you have a new project fork. Your feelings have now betrayed it, too. Rubinstein was wise to hide it from me. Now his failure is complete. If you will not turn to the iSide... then perhaps it will...
MrBlastman: [loads Gingerbread, screams] NO!


RE: I declared...
By MrBlastman on 10/19/2010 11:19:13 AM , Rating: 2
vfork failed.

lol :)


RE: I declared...
By raumkrieger on 10/19/2010 11:42:38 AM , Rating: 5
You sir, win the internet.


RE: I declared...
By GWD5318 on 10/19/2010 2:25:11 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
You sir, win the internet.


Have you clear it with the Elders of the Internet? Has it been demagnetized by Stephen Hawking?


RE: I declared...
By SkullOne on 10/19/2010 1:15:50 PM , Rating: 2
If any post here actually deserves a 6 this is it.

Simply one of the greatest posts of all time.


RE: I declared...
By protosv on 10/19/2010 5:23:23 PM , Rating: 2
If there ever was a 6....


RE: I declared...
By SAmely on 10/19/2010 5:47:26 PM , Rating: 2
Showing 6 for me. Pretty stout.


RE: I declared...
By NanoTube1 on 10/19/2010 6:01:48 PM , Rating: 2
Brilliant! XD


RE: I declared...
By marvdmartian on 10/20/2010 9:22:17 AM , Rating: 1
Emperor Steve: It is of no concern. Soon the Open Source will be crushed and Android will be one of us.


He'd better hope he's right one the figures
By MrTeal on 10/19/2010 9:57:59 AM , Rating: 5
Jobs wasn't talking to reporters or the public, this was the earnings call from the chief executive officer of a company. Telling your investors that the reason you failed to meet projections was due to supply issues and not a lack of demand when the opposite is true would be a good way to get yourself in trouble with the SEC.




RE: He'd better hope he's right one the figures
By stinkyj on 10/19/2010 11:10:49 AM , Rating: 2
I'd say you're off base with the supply comment. I had to wait 6 weeks to get my ipad. Local stores had a one or two, but not the model I wanted. After I got mine I went back to look and the wait time was less then a week, so I'd say they worked out their supply problems. I'd say demand is real. I was at my kid's orthodontist and two other people came in with one compared to one Kindle.


By MrTeal on 10/19/2010 11:47:56 AM , Rating: 2
I really have no idea about whether Apple is supply constrained. I was just commenting on Jason's thinly veiled accusation of fudging the numbers.

quote:
Apple's own tablet, the iPad, interestingly, was the weakest part of the company's earnings report falling short of analyst predictions and only moving 4.19 million units. Apple, though claims that this is due to supply issues. It claims that Apple is selling every unit it can produce. Apple executives in the earnings call failed to explain discrepancies between this statement with past reports that Apple was producing up to 2.3 million units a month (and thus should have had 6.9 million available units for the quarter).


Wow.
By eskimospy on 10/19/2010 10:07:21 AM , Rating: 5
Android is causing our good friend Steve to seriously lose his *hit.

People on here have been arguing if Apple is scared of Google and Android or not, well here's your proof. Apple is scared as all hell.




Android Says Hello, Steve
By Ard on 10/19/2010 12:01:08 PM , Rating: 4
Funny, I'm sure Jobs felt the same way about the iPhone (re: iOS) and now it's slowly being eclipsed by Android. Just because you were first, doesn't mean you're best. It also doesn't mean that you won't be overshadowed by an aggressive competitor and, given the amount of tablets already announced by all the major players, I'd say the iPad has it's work cut out for it. This will be not be iPod redux.




RE: Android Says Hello, Steve
By mead drinker on 10/19/2010 3:02:52 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
...given the amount of tablets already announced by all the major players, I'd say the iPad has it's work cut out for it. This will be not be iPod redux.


Except it is.

The ipod was never the first portable music player.
The iphone was never the first smart phone.
The ipad was never the first tablet.

I don't think that these last two products were designed to retain market share as they themselves are evolutions of one another. Surely, when phones are of out of fashion we will have yet another Apple product iteration that is "revolutionary." Apple's knack is getting the next step in that evolution to be accepted by the consumer market, and making them commercially viable for the company. By commercially viable I mean making money hand over fist.



Fingers to big
By nafhan on 10/19/2010 12:38:03 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
"This size is useless unless you include sandpaper so users can sand their fingers down to a quarter of their size."
So, there's a magic "gap of useless screen sizes" between 3.5" and 10.1"? Interesting...
Definitely one of my favorite Steve quotes.




The popular kid is a bully.
By peritusONE on 10/19/2010 9:51:09 AM , Rating: 2
I'm not really sure what else I expect a businessman to say about his own company, but he's pretty much an ass about it. I do agree that Apple's singular application store is a much better option for consumers than Andriod's increasingly fragmented approach, though. That's the nature of the beast though.




Who dares, wins.
By ians55 on 10/19/2010 10:08:44 AM , Rating: 2
Nuff said.




What a...
By INeedCache on 10/19/2010 10:13:54 AM , Rating: 2
tool. Whatever insight, vision, business savvy, whatever you wish to call it, that Jobs has, it is dwarfed by the self-righteous, egotistical part of his personality. Apple faithful may defend him all they wish, and I'm sure they will here after this post, but facts are facts, and rationalization is merely that, and not a valid reason. I'm not taking anything away from him business-wise, but personally he's a dick.




RE: What a...
By Nutzo on 10/19/10, Rating: -1
RE: What a...
By YashBudini on 10/25/2010 7:51:36 AM , Rating: 1
What did the prior administration create besides war?


Unicorns
By Shadowmaster625 on 10/19/2010 10:21:57 AM , Rating: 2
It's funny that they show a unicorn. No doubt that unicorn poops skittles. As long as the skittle pooping unicorn is pooping skittles, people will keep finding money to waste on apple products.




He's 'Dead' Wrong
By masamasa on 10/19/2010 10:56:14 AM , Rating: 2
There's always been an arrogance surrounding Apple and I can't understand why. Their products are not the superior products they seem to thing they are. It's as though they've had their backs against the wall and a chip on their shoulders since day one.

I think many consumers who prefer freedom of choice will avoid their products since they are very proprietary, not to mention overpriced.




All this shows...
By ThatNewGuy on 10/19/2010 2:16:58 PM , Rating: 2
Is that it's really easy to prey on people's ignorance.




jobs is right
By OBLAMA2009 on 10/19/2010 7:16:40 PM , Rating: 2
he is right, people dont want 1024x600 which is one of the reasons netbooks sales have stalled.ill get ipad 2 not speedbook




One thing.
By rburnham on 10/21/2010 3:53:36 PM , Rating: 2
I just want a tablet that can run some sort of comic book file reader, like CBR. Then I will be set. Add in some eBook software, which is already on pretty much every platform, and I am all in.




save us steve
By rika13 on 10/19/2010 9:33:28 PM , Rating: 1
I can't wait for Wozniak to walk up on stage during the keynote and beat Jobs ass down, then proclaim "SIX COLORS BITCH!".




There is no spoon, eh?
By MeesterNid on 10/19/10, Rating: -1
RE: There is no spoon, eh?
By ts1973 on 10/19/2010 10:05:38 AM , Rating: 1
I agree with you there's slightly biased tone in the article. I read the Q&A and Jobs only commented on the 7" tablets being "DOA" (I believe he said literally: "they'll see the light later on" i.e. when they have failed).

To be clear though, not defending Jobs in any way regarding his denial about Android. I guess it's his job to keep Apple in the sun but I think it is rather foolish to keep denying a rather obvious fact (which is, imho : Apple can never win a market share war against the open Android platform).


RE: There is no spoon, eh?
By mcnabney on 10/19/2010 10:22:38 AM , Rating: 2
It can when it sells devices on all carriers. Never underestimate the likelyhood of stupid people to buy expensive things that they neither need nor will use. iProducts are the equivalent of designer jeans. People don't buy them based upon function or quality. They buy them for the 'look' and the social benefit to being seen with one of these expensive gadgets. What recession?


RE: There is no spoon, eh?
By Pirks on 10/19/2010 10:27:35 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
Apple can never win a market share war against the open Android platform
Maybe they don't want to. Apple was always thriving and making gobs of money by selling luxury items for a niche public. iOS gadgets are no exception. Android is a cheap workhorse for masses, functional, with no artificial limits, with wide choice of hardware/software. iOS is a niche luxury high-margin product for the rich. Apple doesn't have to win market share with this, luxury goods never win large market share by definition. It's a generic economic rule, and Apple and others are no exception.


RE: There is no spoon, eh?
By eskimospy on 10/19/2010 10:41:08 AM , Rating: 4
If Apple wasn't concerned about market share vs. Android, why does 'ol Steve keep bringing it up, unprompted? If Apple as a whole doesn't seem to care, he certainly does.


RE: There is no spoon, eh?
By Pirks on 10/19/2010 11:47:46 AM , Rating: 2
Of course he cares about sales, not about market share. He needs to sell more iGadgets but he knows he'll lose market share eventually. This is inevitable as the luxury goods never get out of their niche and he knows it. Of course he may go the iPod route and drop prices later, who knows. If he does then it means he DOES care about market share, and my theory is wrong. But he still didn't do that so who knows


RE: There is no spoon, eh?
By frobizzle on 10/20/2010 5:27:08 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Apple was always thriving and making gobs of money by selling luxury items for a niche public.

Apple was always thriving and making gobs of money by selling mediocre items for a clueless subset of the public.

There, I fixed it for you.


RE: There is no spoon, eh?
By Pirks on 10/21/2010 8:14:37 AM , Rating: 2
Don't envy the rich


RE: There is no spoon, eh?
By Tony Swash on 10/19/10, Rating: 0
RE: There is no spoon, eh?
By The Raven on 10/19/2010 2:22:56 PM , Rating: 2
Market share again? Seriously?

Tony you are a smart guy. If he is saying that his competitors will be DOA that means he thinks he is going to have 100% market share. Sure he may not want it, but then why would he say something like that?

quote:
The proof of this will be in the pricing of our competitors’ products, which will likely offer less, for more. These are among the reasons that we think that the current crop of seven-inch tablets are going to be DOA—Dead on Arrival. Their manufacturers will learn the painful lesson that their tablets are too small, and increase the size next year, thereby abandoning both customers and developers who jumped on the seven-inch bandwagon with an orphaned product. Sounds like lots of fun ahead.

I think he is referring to the fact that the 3.5 inch iPhone/iPod Touch was a complete failure as an internet device. He is right. There is no way an OS can operate on differently sized screens and that 7" is way to small to do anything with. </sarcasm>

And he doesn't mention that there are screens of various sizes out there. This means that the customer has a choice of what size they find appropriate. He must for get that not all companies only make one version of their products like Apple. He act's like 7" competitors are all he has to worry about. They won't, "learn the painful lesson that their tablets are too small, and increase the size next year," because they are releasing the larger tablets at the same time as the 7"ers.

And speaking of bandwagons ... <cou-iPad-gh>


RE: There is no spoon, eh?
By sviola on 10/19/2010 2:30:25 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
pple is interested in having a viable, dynamic and possibly the biggest, developer community for the iOS and in that aim it is succeeding fairly easily at the moment.


The more market share you have (more customers), more developers will join your plataform


RE: There is no spoon, eh?
By Pirks on 10/19/2010 2:36:57 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
possibly the biggest developer community
which turns to the smallest developer community when market share drops to Mac-like 5%
quote:
His game is far more subtle and interesting
What's interesting in constraining customer choice and selling people overpriced stuff with lotsa bells & whistles they'll never need? This is as boring and predictable as it gets. Jobs built whole business on limiting customer choices, nothing "subtle" here, Tony.


So let me get this right
By Tony Swash on 10/19/10, Rating: -1
RE: So let me get this right
By Pirks on 10/19/2010 12:29:04 PM , Rating: 1
Wrong article, you wanted to post at http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=19919 but missed the right window :P


RE: So let me get this right
By JakLee on 10/19/2010 2:10:19 PM , Rating: 2
One of those new apple stores opened across the street from my work. I like to go in & ask them redicoulous questions like:
"hey do you guys have the new Iphone with android- I hear it is way better than than the old iphone" and "can you help me put my itunes on my new ipod?" and then hand them my creative stone.

They are nice, but I don't think they know I am making fun of them.


RE: So let me get this right
By syoo47 on 11/1/2010 1:06:44 PM , Rating: 2
This just makes you sound pathetic...


RE: So let me get this right
By Callmeaslut on 10/19/2010 3:07:06 PM , Rating: 1
The cell phone market is one thing, but the tablet market is another. I can buy an Android based tablet for $200.
http://www.echo-gear.com (and might actually do it).

I'm just not ready to drink that Kool-Aid. You're right though, basically Apple is here to stay.


RE: So let me get this right
By Pirks on 10/19/10, Rating: -1
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