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Apple opens up availability of its popular iPad

Apple's iPad has been a huge success for the company. The 9.7" device -- which is available in 16GB, 32GB, and 64GB capacities in both Wi-Fi-only and 3G versions -- has reinvigorated consumers' interest in tablet devices and competitors are readying their entries into the field.

IPads have been selling at a furious pace, and after only initially being available in Apple Retail Stores, Apple's online store, and Best Buy, Apple is now spreading the wealth to Amazon.com and Target.

Target will also start a new promotion on October 17 which will give Target credit card holder a 5 percent discount on the purchase of any iPad. For those that purchase a 64GB iPad Wi-Fi, that would amount to a discount of $35.

Those who purchase from Amazon.com can get a "discount" of their own -- that is if they live in a state where Amazon doesn't have a business presence -- thanks to there being no sales tax on the purchase price of an iPad. However, if some states have their way, this is a loophole that will be soon closed.

Apple's iPad will be receiving an update this November which will bring it in line with its iPhone and iPod touch siblings. IOS 4.2 will bring third-party multitasking, folder support, and wireless printing to the iPad.

RIM has announced its oddly named "PlayBook" which is being marketed as a business tablet. The device features a 7" display, dual-core Cortex A9 processor, 1GB of RAM and runs the BlackBerry Tablet OS. Likewise, Samsung is close to releasing its 7" Galaxy Tablet which runs Google's Android 2.2 operating system.



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RE: I wonder...
By Tony Swash on 10/4/2010 6:56:04 PM , Rating: 2
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"Windows Phone 7 needs to be "immediately successful" for the company to regain its credibility"

Well, Xbox was NOT immediately successful, so what?

Think about it Tony :P


I have thought about it and here are my thoughts - or at least two of them as its pretty late in London :)

a) Xbox is not a business success for Microsoft. I know that its touted as some sort of long term strategic play for the living but now, several years into the game, Microsoft has spent billions to earn millions. The Xbox has been, by any standards, a lousy financial investment and I cannot see how it had delivered Microsoft any sort of of strategic presence in the living room (partly because MS wouldn't know what to do if they did take control of the living room).

b) Windows 7 is a much bigger competitor to Android than to Apple. Both Android and Windows 7 have the same customers - the handset makers and the carriers. Android presented a major problem for MS as even if WP7 was pretty good, and early reviews by reviewers I trust says its pretty good, MS still want a license fee and Android is free. So MS with its customary delicacy has gone after the carriers big time and is claiming patent fees for every Android handset sold (and at least one hand set maker is coughing up) thus trying to to disable the key Android advantage (to the carriers and handset makers) of being free in a business built on razor thin margins. Plus MS will be offering all sorts of sweeteners to go along with the threats, they have the money, what they don't have is much time.

So I am happy to watch Android and WP7 slog it out. I think MS is awfully late to the game, they may still do well, if they do it will overwhelmingly Android that suffers. Apple are busy playing a different game.


RE: I wonder...
By Gio6518 on 10/5/2010 12:11:51 AM , Rating: 3
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Windows 7 is a much bigger competitor to Android than to Apple. Both Android and Windows 7 have the same customers - the handset makers and the carriers.


Put down the crack pipe already, it would be a competitor to all smart phones, but if anything, the attraction (if any) would be to current Blackberry customers. Blackberry was smart to release the new Blackberry Torch to get a jump on Win mobile 7.

iOS and Android is a different class, for lack of a better word "Toy", where Win mobile and Blackberry have always been more geared towards the working profesional.

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Windows Phone 7 needs to be "immediately successful" for the company to regain its credibility


That's pretty much dead on, problem is that most people have already invested much into their current smartphones, like apps that they have purchased, and their not partically willing to have to re-buy new apps for a new OS. They need to market to young individuals getting ready to make their first new phone purchase.


RE: I wonder...
By robinthakur on 10/5/2010 8:16:24 AM , Rating: 2
Blackberry Torch was a horrible flop reminiscent in look of the doomed Palm Pre. Alot of previous BB only houses are now looking seriously at iPhones and Androids in the corporate environment due to the overwhelming demand from their users. If you think the BB Torch got the jump on Windows 7 through virtue of an early launch, then if that's MS's competition, their are nil...

Your outdated view of iOS and Android being toys is also rather telling. Apple have supplied management suites for the iphone in a business environment for a while now, with features like encryption, remote kill etc. so the notion that they are toys is now false. The iPad maybe, the iPhone nope. I concede that I don't know how easy it is for Androids to be locked down, however.

At the end of the day, its unlikely that Windows Phone 7 will succceed. It is 'late to the party' in the sense that it has two very popular players with mature OS's and feature sets with a colossal amount of apps already available for them. If the entire weight of developers developing for the old WiMo didn't make that successful how do you think the new Windows 7 will be when interest in developing for it is slim to non-existent...

Add on top of that the current lacking features which are inexcusable at this point, and all that is left is the interface which, forgive my scepticism, is unlikely to give Steve jobs sleepless nights.

I begrudgingly agree with Swash that Google is the competition for MS, not Apple. Apple controls everything from hardware and software downwards, which is why they make so much money. With Android you have a bevvy of manufacturers making very little profit from their phones running the free OS from Google in a race to the bottom. MS is following the latter model in a very crowded marketplace. Somehow I don't think anyone (possibly outside of Dailytech commenters) is thinking "Oh I'll holdoff on my iPhone4 or Android purchase because WP7 is just around the corner" I do hope it succeeds for MS sake as to have two flops in a row (with the Kin held up as one of the worst product failures of all time) would be carelessness. It would integrate well with a MS desktop/server environment so I'm hoping it succeeds just so nobody asks me to get SharePoint working on a Blackberry ever again :(


RE: I wonder...
By themaster08 on 10/5/2010 2:22:42 AM , Rating: 2
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So I am happy to watch Android and WP7 slog it out. I think MS is awfully late to the game, they may still do well, if they do it will overwhelmingly Android that suffers. Apple are busy playing a different game.
There's no such thing as "late to the game". Where do people get this from?

Were Sony "late to the game" for releasing a console 10 years after Nintendo and Sega? No, don't be ridiculous.

The Xbox, whether you think so or not, IS a success. The Xbox entered a highly competitive and saturated market, and is now creating a loyal fanbase through the use of its Xbox Live platform. It continues to sell at a steady rate, and new accessories are being made in order to boost its fanbase and profits.

Windows Phone 7 has its own advantages that will gather its own market, such as Xbox Live, Office and Zune integration.

I find it quite hypocritical. You narrow minded, hate-filled view of Microsoft shares the same likeness to those that you constantly criticise for their hatred of Apple.

What is this "different game" that Apple are playing? Because to everyone else, they're all in it for the same goal; to sell as many devices as possible and to make as much money as possible. Or is that your excuse ready for if the iPhone's market share takes a slide?


RE: I wonder...
By Tony Swash on 10/5/2010 6:04:54 AM , Rating: 2
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The Xbox, whether you think so or not, IS a success. The Xbox entered a highly competitive and saturated market, and is now creating a loyal fanbase through the use of its Xbox Live platform. It continues to sell at a steady rate, and new accessories are being made in order to boost its fanbase and profits.


But what is the criteria for success. Just selling a lot of stuff doesn't make you a success - as Nokia is discovering.

I will suggest a couple of possible criteria for success and look at how the Xbox has performed against them and if I have missed any other criteria please do add to them.

Business success. MS have invested billions and made millions. Even if Xbox sales growth continues at the current rate (unlikely but possible) MS will need another two decades of sales just to recoup the capital it has invested.That makes no business sense. If the Xbox was a stand alone product and company it would have gone bust. The fact that MS has a mountain of cash from its cash cow ageing product lines such as Windows and Office means they can carry such a dire performance but it doesn't make the Xbox a business success.

Strategic Success. The Xbox lack of return on capital and lack of profitability in relation to capital invested could be justified if it had been MS's beach-head product into the living room. But it isn't. It doesn't sell in enough numbers to do that, integration with other MS products is poor (although it has slowly improved) and crucially MS has few other products to take forward a living room strategy. MS is not a consumer or device company, deep down they don't have a vision for the living room just a vague notion (like the sleep walking monopolists that they are) that they want to take over the living room and make lots of money. How they would make a lot of money is pretty vague and thus they have no strategy. This means that MS doesn't have a viable strategy to exploit the Xbox success. So as a strategic investment the Xbox fails.

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Windows Phone 7 has its own advantages that will gather its own market, such as Xbox Live, Office and Zune integration


I bet MS are hoping for a market for WP7 a bit bigger than the one for the Zune :)

The sad fact is that after two decades of trying to diversify if you took away Windows,Office and Servers and Microsoft had to run a business based on everything else they do do they would be a small floundering company with poor profitability teetering constantly on the edge of financial losses.

Compare and contrast this to Apple which in the last decade has entered three entirely new (for Apple) markets (music players, phones and tablets) already full of established and large competitors, completed disrupted and reshaped those markets and made gigantic profits in each of them. Thats what being successful looks like.


RE: I wonder...
By themaster08 on 10/6/2010 2:09:58 AM , Rating: 2
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But what is the criteria for success. Just selling a lot of stuff doesn't make you a success - as Nokia is discovering.
Microsoft have created a fanbase with the Xbox 360, and something that will keep customers coming back for more in the shape of Xbox Live. Most people would agree that its online capabilities are second to none in the console arena, of which Sony is now trying to emulate.

Microsoft have also been working on other ways to make the Xbox 360 even more compelling - newer models, Kinect, Halo Reach...

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MS have invested billions and made millions. Even if Xbox sales growth continues at the current rate (unlikely but possible) MS will need another two decades of sales just to recoup the capital it has invested.That makes no business sense.
Proof? The Xbox 360 has sold over 42 million units. Now that it is profitable, it will continue to be so.

The new model is cheaper to manufacture, Kinect will draw the attention of those that are buying a new console, or those that just want something different. Xbox Live continues to be a huge success and new game releases will simply capitalise on that.

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If the Xbox was a stand alone product and company it would have gone bust. The fact that MS has a mountain of cash from its cash cow ageing product lines such as Windows and Office means they can carry such a dire performance but it doesn't make the Xbox a business success.

Sony are still making a loss on the PlayStation 3, does that mean it's a failure? No. It spawned the penetration of another market: Blu-Ray, just as Microsoft have penetrated the online gaming community.

I guess by dire performance you mean the second best selling console of this generation (so far), the creation of a loyal fanbase and an online gaming platform that is top notch.

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It doesn't sell in enough numbers to do that, integration with other MS products is poor (although it has slowly improved) and crucially MS has few other products to take forward a living room strategy.
Are you kidding? Have you ever even used an Xbox? The media streaming capabilities from a Windows computer are outstanding, and always have been. Many people purchase an Xbox 360 for this reason alone! There is integration with Zune and the upcoming Windows Phone 7.

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MS is not a consumer or device company, deep down they don't have a vision for the living room just a vague notion (like the sleep walking monopolists that they are) that they want to take over the living room and make lots of money. How they would make a lot of money is pretty vague and thus they have no strategy. This means that MS doesn't have a viable strategy to exploit the Xbox success. So as a strategic investment the Xbox fails.

You should probably take a look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiqgmAYrd3c

Microsoft's vision isn't about floundering your living room with pretty, mass consumer-oriented devices like some fruit branded company. Their vision is to incorporate technology into everyday life - both work and home, to make life easier and more productive.

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The sad fact is that after two decades of trying to diversify if you took away Windows,Office and Servers and Microsoft had to run a business based on everything else they do do they would be a small floundering company with poor profitability teetering constantly on the edge of financial losses.
That's just an absolutely absurd statement. Network/client operating sytems and office tools ARE their business. That's like saying Lexus would be a failure if they didn't sell cars!

Where would Apple be without Macs and iPods? they would be another small time, on-the-virge-of-failure player, just as they were before the iPod was released.

As you know, before Jobs made his return to Apple, they were a failing business. Their products failed to grab enough attention and market share in order to be competitive. They were in dire straits. They were forced to penetrate new markets in order to survive!

So with the return of Jobs, a lawsuit and the use of Microsoft's money, they released the iPod, which fortunately for them, was and still is a huge success.

However, Microsoft's main products have always been hugely successful, removing the need to penetrate new markets, and giving them the ability to experiment. What's so sad about being able to successfully sell your main products?

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Compare and contrast this to Apple which in the last decade has entered three entirely new (for Apple) markets (music players, phones and tablets) already full of established and large competitors, completed disrupted and reshaped those markets and made gigantic profits in each of them. Thats what being successful looks like.
As I've already mentioned, Apple were forced to penetrate new markets because their initial plan was an absolute failure.

The only contrasting fact is that Apple had to diversify, Microsoft haven't.


RE: I wonder...
By Pirks on 10/6/2010 9:42:55 AM , Rating: 2
oh boy, so many words... you could have refuted Tony's statements with one short phrase: "AppleTV was sold in tiny numbers and is a failure after billions sunk in its development"

learn to be concise, like myself :P hehe


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