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3.5-liter EcoBoost V6
V8 what? EcoBoost V6 is probably going to be a hot seller for the F-150

When we brought you news of Ford's overhauled F-150 powertrain lineup for 2011, most people were quite happy with the changes made. However, there were some that were skeptical about the possible power ratings for the optional EcoBoost V6 engine.

Some simply weren't buying into the idea that the 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6 -- a twin-turbocharged engine that sees duty in the Ford Taurus SHO and Ford Flex -- could possibly produce even more power in a truck platform that would undergo much more stress.

Today, however, Ford is giving the naysayers a healthy dish of crow to eat with the final power/torque figures for the EcoBoost V6 engine option in the 2011 Ford F-150. The engine will generate 365 hp at 5,000 rpm and an outrageous 420 lb-ft of torque at 2,500 rpm. Even more impressive is that 90 percent of peak torque will be available from 1,700 rpm to 5,000 rpm. Towing capacity with the new engine matches that of the larger 6.2-liter V8 engine option -- 11,300 pounds. Better still, all of this is achieved using regular unleaded fuel.

For comparison, the EcoBoost V6 generates 365 hp at 5,500 rpm and 350 lb-ft at 1,500 rpm in the Taurus SHO.

The new EcoBoost will be a more expensive engine option than the 5.0-liter V8 which generates 360 hp and 380 lb-ft of torque.

“Truck customers should think of the EcoBoost truck engine as a gas-powered engine with diesel-type capability and characteristics,” said Jim Mazuchowski, Ford's V6 engines program manager. “The twin turbochargers and direct injection give it the broad, flat torque curve that makes towing with a diesel so effortless – and hard acceleration so much fun.”

“Customers have embraced the EcoBoost solution of delivering the power they desire with the fuel economy they demand in a no-compromise package,” added Derrick Kuzak, group vice president, Global Product Development. “From the start, we have pledged that this solution applies to any engine and any customer. The EcoBoost truck engine for the 2011 F-150 will deliver those attributes and has been specially tuned and tested to deliver the best-in-class towing and capability our truck customers demand.”

The EcoBoost V6 engine option will be available for the F-150 in early 2011. Although Ford didn't give any specific fuel economy numbers for the engine, it will more than likely be more fuel efficient than the less powerful 5.0-liter V8.



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I think this is great!
By amanojaku on 9/21/2010 8:28:26 AM , Rating: 2
For the consumer. Better fuel economy will hopefully lead to a lower TCO over time.

As to the environmental impact (one of the engine's goals is to lower CO2 emissions by 15%), well, I think this is a good read:
quote:
The Earth Doesn’t Care About what is done to or for it.
http://www.newsweek.com/2010/09/12/george-will-ear...




RE: I think this is great!
By Dr of crap on 9/21/2010 9:12:46 AM , Rating: 1
I agree that this engine is great - but not BECAUSE it saves CO2, But because it's a smaller size that has the performance of a bigger engine.
That makes the car / pickup lighter and has the same pulling power, so all around good things. The fact that the CO2 is less - don't really care, but I guess the car companies do for the CAFE standards, and the US govt does - at least the car buyers get something better from CAFE, and not have to give up something!


RE: I think this is great!
By theapparition on 9/21/2010 12:04:23 PM , Rating: 1
Wow, your username is quite apt.

Hate to break it to you, but Fords Ecoboost engines are actually heavier than comparable engines, for several reasons.

1st, bigger displacements mean bigger holes. If you take a piece of swiss cheese and make the holes bigger, it gets lighter, not heavier. (Gross example but fundamentally correct). Displacement refers to the amount of air pumped through the cylinders, not physical size. Most OHV V8's are physically smaller than OHC V6s.
2nd, you are adding the additional weight of the turbochargers and associated plumbing.

For example, as a system, a typical(aluminum block and heads) V8 will weigh about 100lbs less than a comparable ecoboost V6.

There's a reason Ford's going to Ecoboost, but don't for a minute believe it's because of weight reduction.


RE: I think this is great!
By Spuke on 9/21/10, Rating: 0
RE: I think this is great!
By theapparition on 9/21/2010 3:33:24 PM , Rating: 3
Nice try, but how about comparing them to aluminum block engines, not older iron block ones (6.2L). Also, I went out of my way to specifically to mention cam-in-block OHV, not OHC engines.

LS3 6.2L Aluminum block - 418lbs
3.5L Ecoboost - 449lbs missing lots of parts

Information I had was that weight was without turbos, which I still feel is the case. I don't trust about.com as a factual source, but for now I retract my previous 100lb differential and modify that to 75lbs.
So while this package may weight less than Ford's other offerings, it's far from weight competitive with other manufacturers.

Keep in mind, I'm not knocking the ecoboost line. Just that it gets to me when people talk about lighter (which it isn't), or cheaper (which is most certainly is not) engine. You'd be surprised how many people think ford is doing good financially because they put in a cheaper engine (aka ecoboost).


RE: I think this is great!
By Spuke on 9/21/2010 6:58:36 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Nice try, but how about comparing them to aluminum block engines, not older iron block ones (6.2L). Also, I went out of my way to specifically to mention cam-in-block OHV, not OHC engines.
You're cherry picking the data and comparing apples to oranges. Then the typical ignorant non-posting a$$holes downrate me when I posted facts! Nice try my ass. The 6.2L is a brand new engine. What's old about it? Fact, the 3.5L is LIGHTER than the FORD engines that it either replaces or augments. If I used your logic, I could pick a 1938 Fiat 4 cyl and say that's lighter so therefore the Ecoboost motor is a pig. That might work for you but that's not a fair comparison.

FACT : the Ecoboost is lighter than ANY of the engines offered in the F150. Therefore, the F150 WILL be lighter with that engine installed.


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