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3.5-liter EcoBoost V6
V8 what? EcoBoost V6 is probably going to be a hot seller for the F-150

When we brought you news of Ford's overhauled F-150 powertrain lineup for 2011, most people were quite happy with the changes made. However, there were some that were skeptical about the possible power ratings for the optional EcoBoost V6 engine.

Some simply weren't buying into the idea that the 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6 -- a twin-turbocharged engine that sees duty in the Ford Taurus SHO and Ford Flex -- could possibly produce even more power in a truck platform that would undergo much more stress.

Today, however, Ford is giving the naysayers a healthy dish of crow to eat with the final power/torque figures for the EcoBoost V6 engine option in the 2011 Ford F-150. The engine will generate 365 hp at 5,000 rpm and an outrageous 420 lb-ft of torque at 2,500 rpm. Even more impressive is that 90 percent of peak torque will be available from 1,700 rpm to 5,000 rpm. Towing capacity with the new engine matches that of the larger 6.2-liter V8 engine option -- 11,300 pounds. Better still, all of this is achieved using regular unleaded fuel.

For comparison, the EcoBoost V6 generates 365 hp at 5,500 rpm and 350 lb-ft at 1,500 rpm in the Taurus SHO.

The new EcoBoost will be a more expensive engine option than the 5.0-liter V8 which generates 360 hp and 380 lb-ft of torque.

“Truck customers should think of the EcoBoost truck engine as a gas-powered engine with diesel-type capability and characteristics,” said Jim Mazuchowski, Ford's V6 engines program manager. “The twin turbochargers and direct injection give it the broad, flat torque curve that makes towing with a diesel so effortless – and hard acceleration so much fun.”

“Customers have embraced the EcoBoost solution of delivering the power they desire with the fuel economy they demand in a no-compromise package,” added Derrick Kuzak, group vice president, Global Product Development. “From the start, we have pledged that this solution applies to any engine and any customer. The EcoBoost truck engine for the 2011 F-150 will deliver those attributes and has been specially tuned and tested to deliver the best-in-class towing and capability our truck customers demand.”

The EcoBoost V6 engine option will be available for the F-150 in early 2011. Although Ford didn't give any specific fuel economy numbers for the engine, it will more than likely be more fuel efficient than the less powerful 5.0-liter V8.



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GM lover
By scottymyboy on 9/21/2010 12:44:44 AM , Rating: 5
for many years i have always bought GM cars, but the last 3 or so years, ford has made some serious improvements technically and i think they are just crushing their competition. With sync, ecoboost engines, option for AWD on their sedans...i find it very hard NOT to go with ford these days. and that's just to name a few options. it's hard not to also be impressed by the fact they didn't depend on the us government to bail them out. It definitely seems like of all the us auto makers, they are the ones with their sh*t together.




RE: GM lover
By Lunyone on 9/21/2010 1:24:43 AM , Rating: 3
I couldn't agree more. I think Ford has done all of the right things for the last 3 or so years. I don't like how GM has handled things and if I was in the market for a new vehicle, I'd be seriously looking at what Ford has to offer.


RE: GM lover
By aegisofrime on 9/21/2010 2:10:45 AM , Rating: 3
In fact, Top Gear had a poll, "Which car company had made the most great cars". IIRC Ford won that poll. Coming from a British motoring show that is pretty darn impressive.


RE: GM lover
By Alexstarfire on 9/21/2010 2:55:36 AM , Rating: 2
Coming from Top Gear I don't think it means all that much.


RE: GM lover
By silverblue on 9/21/2010 3:21:26 AM , Rating: 2
I used to believed it was a joke designed to help get Jeremy his GT... however it does look as if they really like Ford.

http://www.topgear.com/uk/ford


RE: GM lover
By Hyperion1400 on 9/21/10, Rating: 0
RE: GM lover
By quiksilvr on 9/21/2010 9:06:25 AM , Rating: 3
Of course they do. Ford makes great cars and they got their act together a lot sooner than GM did. It's just GM's crap company that gave American car makers a bad name.


RE: GM lover
By mcnabney on 9/21/2010 12:57:22 PM , Rating: 3
No, that would be Chrysler. GM is still doing ok, not as good as Ford, but pretty good. If Chrysler didn't sell minivans I don't know what they would do.


RE: GM lover
By 67STANG on 9/21/2010 1:29:39 PM , Rating: 2
I don't know about that... they sell plenty of 300's and Chargers too. I'm not saying they are good cars (I had a 300 and the check engine light was on more than it was off) but they sell a ton of them.


RE: GM lover
By Samus on 9/23/2010 12:40:05 PM , Rating: 2
The only reason you see so many of them is because they're cheap as hell and chrysler will finance anybody. The guy down the street from me has a house being foreclosed on yet he just bought a brand new Dodge Journey. They get away with it because the vehicles are so unbelievably shitty that profit margins are huge, even though they're inexpensive to the public.

Almost all Chrysler technology (platforms, engines, transmissions, etc) is left over from the Daimler AG merger. The 300 is a 1990's E-class chassis, along with all the control-arm geometry problems it was plagued with that caused premature ball joint wear and a car that never drove straight The Dodge Caravan is STILL a dead axle. I had one of these in 1987 and I swear the platform is still 90% unchanged. They handle horribly and have constant front-end problems. I'm not going to even bother discussing the gas guzzling "Hemi" that uses 40 year old technology. Most of these engines are plagued with emissions failures after a few years.

I bought a Ford SVT Focus in 2003. It hasn't been the most reliable vehicle I've ever owned, but being a performance car with a lot of new technology, that was expected. I still have it, and it has never stranded me anywhere. To this day, there hasn't been another car yet that looks and performs as good while being as economical and safe. I know because I crashed a 2002 SVT Focus I bought in 2007 for a project last year at 70MPH into a concrete overpass. The car was completely totalled but the door opened and I got out.


RE: GM lover
By silverblue on 9/21/2010 3:26:32 AM , Rating: 2
Perhaps, but they're praising the British and European models; the Granada and Escort are different to the models over in the States, for example.

Ford did great things over here, and still continue to do so. My father owned two Cortinas (one in British Racing Green, the other a rather questionable cream) and a white Granada in the 80s, and you still see Escorts on the road even now when there's questionably better and more economical cars around.


RE: GM lover
By BZDTemp on 9/21/2010 6:12:49 PM , Rating: 1
Exactly.

No one in Europe thinks of the F150 or anything like that when talking about Ford. What they think is the history like those you mention and the Focus, the Mondeo and the Fiesta. Plus some may think of the Ford Transit which is a van but that is it then.


RE: GM lover
By AEvangel on 9/21/2010 6:51:30 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
No one in Europe thinks of the F150 or anything like that when talking about Ford.


Which is surprising given the fact that Ford’s F series is at present the best selling car in the world. Every year Ford sells almost a million cars, that is almost one vehicle every 30 seconds. So far, 25 million vehicles of the F series were sold. The only vehicles that comes close is Toyota Corrolla, VW Golf and VW Beetle followed then by the Model T.


RE: GM lover
By rtrski on 9/21/2010 9:57:59 AM , Rating: 3
Ditto, except I am in the market. I only wish they were a bit quicker with the better mileage options, as I may take a pass on Ford this time.

Seriously like the Edge, but the mileage on it is still crap. Will look into the Fiesta pretty hard (it's State Fair season here in TX, so perfect time to go car-comparing!) but although it gets the BEST mileage of all the hatchback to midsize crossover type vehicles I'm interested in, it's also about the smallest in terms of usable space. Will have to see if that balances out against the very nice appointment (Sync, etc. feature set).

If they had an Edge with ecoboost now that got around 24-25 mpg combined, I'd be all over it. There's just no reason for 20 or under (combined) mpg unless** you're looking at high power / towing or high performance (sport), and I'm not looking for either, just a nice ride.

And as I think I've "outed" myself before on this page, my current ride is a Prius. Bought when I had a 55 mile commute each way to work. Been a not so bad car, but now that commute is around 30 mi, willing to drop a bit of economy for a bit more style. The 05 Pri will get handed down to college age daughter and should run another couple years at least (already at 125k miles and replaced nothing but a water pump and tires...aside from bodywork from being RE-ed).

Goes without saying, I won't even look at GM or Chrysler. Frakers. May be irrational, but they burned that bridge when they became Gubbamint Motors.

[**The caveat is intended to show I am NOT saying no one should buy a car with lower mileage. That's their choice as a consumer, not the choice of some eco-nazi-car-czar or whatever. It's simply my OPINION, as I'm not in a category that either "needs" or "wants" higher power. But neither do I "want" non-competitive fuel use. Compare say the Kia Sportage with 23-25 combined for different trim levels vs. the 18-20 for the Edge.]


RE: GM lover
By Spuke on 9/21/2010 2:29:51 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Compare say the Kia Sportage with 23-25 combined for different trim levels vs. the 18-20 for the Edge.]
2011 Edge is up to 22 combined now. Don't know if that makes a difference to you or not. And is the Sportage a competitor to the Edge? The Edge is decidedly more expensive. Not sure on that comparison. On my commute, I would get right at the 27 mpg mark or more (2011 Edge is 19/27/22). My wife would probably get ~25 mpg as she does more city driving than me. If you're doing mostly city, maybe you should stick to hybrids or even the VW TDI's. A gas car isn't going to be all that great in the city.


RE: GM lover
By rtrski on 9/22/2010 10:32:26 AM , Rating: 2
Whoa...thanks for posting. I hadn't checked the 2011 stats yet. That is enticing.

By the time I get the Kia configured the way I want its up into similar pricing. And they're both the 'smaller' crossover SUV offerings, so I would say they would be competitive. Really like Sync - especially the new touch. May have to check this out seriously this weekend. Sure they'll have one at the State Fair.

Thanks again!


RE: GM lover
By AstroGuardian on 9/21/10, Rating: 0
RE: GM lover
By Spoelie on 9/21/2010 6:05:32 AM , Rating: 2
Get your facts straight. The Focus developed and released in Europe have been hailed as the better model, the new Focus also made the transfer to the US. Their chassis and road behavior have historically been described as best in class, better than VW Golfs and Opel Astras and certainly not shared with them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDJfaJtUjAs#t=4m40s

The Fiesta and the Panda are on different platforms, it is shared with the Mazda 2 though.


RE: GM lover
By teldar on 9/21/2010 7:06:30 AM , Rating: 3
Could you be less well informed? The only car that shares anything with a fiat is the ka, which was co-developed as the 500. The focus of based on the volvo platform for the c30. Opel has been agm brand for 40 years, I believe.


RE: GM lover
By bldckstark on 9/21/10, Rating: 0
RE: GM lover
By FITCamaro on 9/21/2010 8:33:42 AM , Rating: 2
Agreed. I wouldn't mind having that V6 in my GTO. I'd be upping the boost pretty quick. ^o.o^

It'll be interesting to see the mod potential of the V6. Sure it won't have the rumble of a V8. But power is power.

I still would love to see a turbo-diesel in a mid-size truck. Shouldn't have to buy the HD version of a truck to get one.


RE: GM lover
By tjr508 on 9/23/2010 12:34:30 AM , Rating: 2
Ford's Super Duty isn't exactly a different version. It's a completely different platform. It has been that way since 1999. It's hard to tell why they even refer to all of the trucks as F-Series any more when the only thing they share is an F in the name.
As a Power Stroke driver myself, I can say that there is no point in owning a diesel in a truck unless you do a lot of heavy towing and hate changing gears constantly. The EPA requirements combined with a relentless horsepower race have done away with any slight economic advantages that may have existed in the past.


RE: GM lover
By VahnTitrio on 9/21/2010 10:34:46 AM , Rating: 2
I think more importantly than how they jumped out front is that they continue to push forward, rather than just being content with the recent success. Only problem is you may one day feel like me. My 2008 Fusion only has about 16,000 miles on it and reading Ford articles here makes it feel more and more dated all the time.

I need to win the lottery though so I can buy one of these F150's and put a 21 foot bass boat behind it. Wouldn't it be cool if it was the F150 SHO, and the boat behind it had a Yamaha VMax SHO on it?


RE: GM lover
By dubyadubya on 9/21/2010 7:41:03 PM , Rating: 2
The new SHO motor was built in house by ford not by Yamaha.
It would be a nice setup though.


RE: GM lover
By VahnTitrio on 9/22/2010 10:04:17 AM , Rating: 2
I was referring to the outboard motor on the boat. Yamaha does make an outboard dubbed the SHO. So both the boat and the truck could be dubbed SHO.


RE: GM lover
By Treckin on 9/22/2010 3:34:33 PM , Rating: 2
The confusion is because Ford outsourced the design of the original SHO motor to Yamaha.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_SHO_V8_engine


RE: GM lover
By iFX on 9/21/2010 7:49:55 PM , Rating: 2
Ford has been a degree ahead of GM for the better part of 20 years. Nice to have you in the family though.


RE: GM lover
By FITCamaro on 9/22/2010 8:02:19 AM , Rating: 2
Oh really? So Ford's answer for the LS series was......? They've been down on power with the same or worse fuel economy in the performance sector for around 20 years. Only by supercharging the Mustang were they able to stay even. And we don't even need to talk about the poor handling and traction of the Mustang. There was the GT but I hardly think a $200,000+ supercar needs to be looked at compared to even the Corvette considering the cost difference (nevermind that the Z06 keeps up with it for far less $$$ and is a far more comfortable car to drive.

Only with the new 5.0 are they coming back. The only blip from 1990 onward was the 02-03 Terminators. And then the GT500 which was a Corvette priced Mustang that kept up with a Vette in a straight line but didn't even come close in turns. Only just now, in 2010, are they finally adding a 6-speed to the Mustang GT. The Camaro/Firebird had one in 1993. And the Corvette has had one since 1988 I believe. Before that it had a 4+3(4 gears + 3 overdrives).

Yes Ford has had 3V heads for a while while GM has stuck with a 2V. GM actually has a 3V head design which for the life of me I don't know why they haven't used. I guess because they haven't needed to to beat Ford in power and fuel economy. Maybe the new 5.0 will change this.


RE: GM lover
By tjr508 on 9/23/2010 12:40:40 AM , Rating: 2
The mustang and corvette have never directly competed. Meanwhile, the mustang has captured the heart of America for decades while the F-Body remains associated with methamphetamine use and mullet haircuts.


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