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Microsoft employees carry a coffin for Apple's iPhone  (Source: Carl J)

  (Source: Carl J)
Microsoft is pretty confident about how Windows Phone 7 will perform in the marketplace

Well, we can say that the folks from Redmond definitely have a morbid sense of humor. In celebration of the release to manufacturing (RTM) of Windows Phone 7, Microsoft held a mock funeral for two of the stars of the smartphone community: the Apple iPhone and RIM's BlackBerry.

According to Neowin, there were hearses for both the iPhone and the BlackBerry along with Microsoft employees dressed up in Windows Phone 7 garb. Microsoft even went so far as to have employees performing the infamous "Thriller Dance" to celebrate the hope that Windows Phone 7 will bury the competition.

Interestingly enough, while Microsoft definitely had Apple and RIM in its crosshairs today, “dead” Google was nowhere to be found. There were no hearses for the Android OS, so either Microsoft just overlooked this "minor" detail, or it doesn't think that it has the muscle to bury Android so quickly.

Windows Phone 7 is reportedly set to launch on October 11.

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RE: It would be appropriate
By inighthawki on 9/11/2010 9:20:56 PM , Rating: 2
Vista only earned a bad rep for poor 3rd party drivers. In fact, many people had it fine. I actually used Vista since pre-beta when it was still longhorn and installed new builds on a monthly or even biweekly basis. And the result? I never once had a single problem with ANY of the builds, even beta. What does that mean? It wasn't Vista's fault t all, it was drivers. If you got crappy drivers for your hardware, then it means you picked some bad brands to work with because they can't even be good enough to release proper drivers. It's people like you who got bad hardware and believe all the mudslinging by people like Apple and assume that Vista was a bad OS, when in fact it was actually a really well-made polished OS that was ages ahead of XP.

RE: It would be appropriate
By gcor on 9/11/10, Rating: -1
RE: It would be appropriate
By inighthawki on 9/11/2010 10:32:05 PM , Rating: 2
No I didn't mean the hardware itself had problems like malfunctioning, but the hardware companies DID slack when making drivers for said hardware. Drivers that had matured for years on XP had been rushed out the door in days or weeks for Vista, making them unstable. If you look at charts, you will see that over 75% of the crashes caused by Vista in its early days were caused by ATi, nVidia, and Intel.

Also if you've seriously had that much trouble, you may want to figure out another problem. I mean, how many countless desktops and laptops do people like Dell, HP, etc ship that work FLAWLESSLY with all of MS's OSs, yet you can't seem to get ONE to work? Sounds like you might be doing something wrong. Even I have built dozens of systems that all work fine with a multitude of OSs ranging from 98 to 7 and everywhere in-between.

RE: It would be appropriate
By gcor on 9/11/2010 11:19:12 PM , Rating: 1
Good for you!

I'm so glad everything has been sunshine and light and nothing has ever gone wrong in your world. Looking at the forums where people have had trouble and have sometimes found the cause and even work arounds, I don't think I'm the only one who's had trouble with MS and compatibility. But, good for you and your ability to always get it right first time.

I'd love to see you get a motherboard working that occasionally used instructions reserved for the OS. That one took longer than the warrantte period before people discovered that one out.

Problems like that are many are varied. Of course, if you're prescient and choose only parts that work 100% with MS, well done you. Notice I said "work", not "comply with spec", because MS doesn't always work to their own specs, sometimes due to the spec being imprecise, at error (i.e. can't be implemented) or just a buggy implemention on their end. Yes, I've seen them all. I'd don't blame MS for making mistakes like this occasionally, everyone is human, they just seem to make a lot of them.

These problems happen. I worked specifying the 3G mobile phone air interface, which is an open standard, worked on by many vendors. So, I've seen my fair share of spec problems fall through the cracks and need work arounds after release. In my opinion, MS just do a LOT of them.

RE: It would be appropriate
By Belard on 9/12/10, Rating: 0
RE: It would be appropriate
By Reclaimer77 on 9/12/2010 2:22:27 AM , Rating: 2
And in many ways, Windows7 isn't either.

I was a XP holdover who skipped Vista, but even I can't agree with this statement. On the same hardware, Windows7 is a total and significant upgrade from XP. No doubt about it. And I'm not talking about DX11, it's a lot more obvious than that in day to day use.

RE: It would be appropriate
By Belard on 9/12/2010 1:20:11 PM , Rating: 2
I'm talking about ability and business. For small business, schools and many people - there isn't any real advantage for Win7. Keep in mind that many were using DOS well into Windows98, some even into Win7 (ugh).

Yes, when using WinXP at a clients place is sometimes odd when I'm trying to do a Win7 GUI functions like throwing windows to the side, etc. But that doesn't keep me from getting work done. V/W7 are still based off of XP along with many of built-in defects NT in general, compatibility is important after-all.

But, other than DX10~11, what can Win7 do that XP cant? Networking, browsing, MS-Office, etc etc.. There isn't a single Win7 game out there... other than HALO2 and that was (A) artificial (B) a crappy game (C) there are hacks for that. Maybe 1-2 other MS games are also "DX10" only for sake of forcing people into vista (fail). It is completely in MS's ability to make HALO3 and REACH for PC - but MS wants people on Xbox with its LOW-res. So to a degree, DX10~12 are moot if high-end PC gaming dies (other than MMORPG and RTS games).

When you grow up on computers from the beginning such as Commodore 64 (8bit, 1Mhz - NO HD) and AppleIIs (same stats, but ugh) then to original 9" B&W MAC which were like "WOW!!" and Amigas at 8mhz. When going from 2 to 16 colors is a BIG jump, much less 256 and then thousands.

Windows 7 is a very good upgrade and change over the 10 year old WindowsXP.

RE: It would be appropriate
By Reclaimer77 on 9/12/2010 7:22:29 PM , Rating: 2
For small business, schools and many people - there isn't any real advantage for Win7.

The added security over XP alone is "worth it." I don't think there's any debate that 7 is by far more secure down to the kernel level than XP ever was. The problem is, it costs LOTS of money to change OS's due to MS's licensing structure. So if schools or businesses seem reluctant to go to 7, that isn't a mark against the OS itself.

Having said that, I do believe I read that 7 is enjoying impressive business adoption rates compared to Vista.

But, other than DX10~11, what can Win7 do that XP cant? Networking, browsing, MS-Office, etc etc..

Well by this logic we could all still be using Windows 2000. It does all that stuff too! As far as the gaming stuff, high end PC gaming isn't going anywhere this decade in my opinion.

RE: It would be appropriate
By Wonga on 9/12/2010 9:13:59 AM , Rating: 3
"Out of box experince on a Vista PC, even with latest SPs... sucked."


RE: It would be appropriate
By Belard on 9/12/2010 11:46:22 AM , Rating: 2
You are entitled to your opinion.

I pretty much know my way around Vista, since I have Windows7 on two of my own computers. I've set up a Toshiba notebook with Vista as good as it'll ever get (cleaned out crap, installed good tools - that I use on my own computers) - its technically FASTER & BETTER than my ThinkPad, even when I had 1GB RAM installed... it was still slower and still sucked right next to my ThinkPad... with XP and with Win7.

One of my friends, who does quite a bit beta-testing, tried to get me to use Vista... Sometime after SP1 was installed, even he got tired of Vista and went back to XP. He's been using Win7 only since RCs. I put an RC on my ThinkPad and loved it. Put XP back on for about a month or so... ;)

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