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MOH banned from sale on base PXs  (Source: Kotaku)
Multiplayer Taliban characters are the cause of the ban

Video games are a huge business and one of the most popular genres in the market are first person shooters. These games generate billions of dollars each year for the video game industry and have sparked harsh criticism at times because of the violent content of the games.

The latest game to come under fire is the upcoming shooter from EA called
Medal of Honor. Surprisingly, the game hasn't come under fire from the typical groups that oppose violent video games, but the U.S. military. 

Kotaku reports that the Army and Air Force Exchange Services has confirmed to it that they have demanded that the upcoming Medal of Honor game to be pulled from the 49 different GameStop locations that are located on army bases within America. The ban also extends to all stores selling the game on military Post Exchanges [PXs] globally. The reason the game has been withdrawn from PX shelves is that the multiplayer aspect of the game allow players to play as Taliban fighters.

An email from GameStop
Kotaku received states:

GameStop has agreed out of respect for our past and present men and women in uniform we will not carry Medal of Honor in any of our AAFES based stores... As such, GameStop agreed to have all marketing material pulled by noon today and to stop taking reservations. Customers who enter our AAFES stores and wish to reserve Medal of Honor can and should be directed to the nearest GameStop location off base. GameStop fully supports AAFES in this endeavor and is sensitive to the fact that in multiplayer mode one side will assume the role of Taliban fighter.

Apparently, the game is not banned from play by military personnel and is not banned from the base altogether; the game simply isn’t allowed to be sold on base. Military personnel can buy it off base and play it at the base. There has been no official comment by EA on the issue so far.

Another first person shooter franchise set to get a new installment soon is Call of Duty with Activision putting the largest marketing campaign it has ever undertaken behind the new title in the franchise called Black Ops.



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Defending American values?
By Arbie on 9/3/2010 10:10:11 AM , Rating: -1
I thought our military existed to defend American values, as expressed in our Constitution etc. Speaking generally, these include freedom of expression. For some military honcho to ban sales of this game on the grounds stated is more evidence of why we never want to have a military government. They lose sight of values and focus on command.




RE: Defending American values?
By Reclaimer77 on 9/3/2010 10:20:11 AM , Rating: 5
There is no Freedom of expression being silenced here. If you truly believe in freedoms, then you have to also believe in their freedom to choose what gets sold on their bases or not.

If they banned all personnel from play the game, you could have an argument. But they are simply not allowing it to be sold on base, not banned anyone from playing it or purchasing it elsewhere.


RE: Defending American values?
By FITCamaro on 9/3/2010 12:11:11 PM , Rating: 2
The military is also not subject to freedom of speech. Soldiers follow orders. They don't get to speak out against those orders if they don't agree with them. At least not without risk of punishment.

I don't think they should ban the sale of the game. But they have every right to.


RE: Defending American values?
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 9/3/2010 10:41:35 AM , Rating: 5
Well, you can still play the game -- EVEN ON THE BASE; you just can't BUY it on the base. Nothing wrong with that IMHO if the Military has a problem with.

If Walmart won't sell you a CD with explicit material, what do you do? You buy it from Amazon or Best Buy.


RE: Defending American values?
By AssBall on 9/3/2010 11:30:31 AM , Rating: 2
This only hurts Gamestop, as far as I can see. I don't agree with the regulation, but it certainly isn't my call to make.


RE: Defending American values?
By Lerianis on 9/3/2010 2:59:27 PM , Rating: 2
Neither is it the Army's to put into place a ban like this. If I was running Gamestop? I would challenge this ban out of the PRINCIPLE of the thing.

If they ban this, what do you think they are going to ban NEXT?

It's a slippery slope that we cannot allow the Armed Forces to go down!


By NicodemusMM on 9/3/2010 8:44:50 PM , Rating: 2
"It's a slippery slope that we cannot allow the Armed Forces to go down!"...

Really? Are you serious? OK, Assuming you are...
Do you have any idea of the number of items/activities that are not permitted on base? The average civilian would balk at the regulations the men and women in the armed forces live by.
Why does this move drive you to think that they're going to start banning things irrationally? They did this with a very pointed reason and in a mild fashion. The game can still be played... just not sold.

By your reasoning we can't let them fire their weapons...

"If they shoot this, what do you think they are going to shoot NEXT?

It's a slippery slope that we cannot allow the Armed Forces to go down!"

And my last point... Armed Forces... try and stop them. :)


RE: Defending American values?
By Smilin on 9/3/2010 11:04:21 AM , Rating: 2
It always irks me to see some rant about "they are protecting our freedom and blah blah" from someone who has clearly never served in the US Military.

Those that have served know what the UCMJ is and the additional restrictions it places on your freedoms. We've no problem with it and I for one don't mind it when our military commanders make a decision that is in the best interest of our military as a whole.

This issue with the game is about the honorable and *professional* image of our US military (as opposed to a bunch of collateral damage inducing nutbag rambos). Service members are still allowed to buy the game if they wish. This is nothing more than a discouragement from command.

And this...wtf..
quote:
They lose sight of values and focus on command.

Their values ARE to focus on command. Freedom is not the priority in the military. Freedom stops when the mission begins, then resumes when it's over.


RE: Defending American values?
By Lerianis on 9/3/2010 3:01:43 PM , Rating: 2
Little problem with your statement: The USMJ does NOT to infinity and BEYOND override that little piece of paper called? THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES!

Anyone who says it does? Read what our Founding Fathers said. They made it VERY clear that the First Amendment and ALL others apply even to MILITARY PERSONNEL!


RE: Defending American values?
By Smilin on 9/3/2010 4:39:52 PM , Rating: 2
It's the UCMJ and yes it does.

Go try to use your 1st amendment free speech at will under article 134 and see what happens.

How can this be that rights are stripped? Easy. Military service members *volunteer* to have them stripped. You are guaranteed rights under the constitution but you are welcome to give them up at any time. Military members do so when they join and agree to be bound by the UCMJ.


RE: Defending American values?
By DominionSeraph on 9/3/2010 11:20:44 AM , Rating: 1
The military doesn't defend the right for an outside commercial entity to do whatever they want on a military installation, because that right doesn't exist in the first place. There's nothing even remotely close.
It's not commercial property. It's 100% government property.

Occasionally the military will allow a private business to set up shop as a convenience to the troops, but there's nothing in that that gives the business any legal force whatsoever. The government can kick them off any time they please.

You should think things through before you write. Values are rarely absolute, so you shouldn't slop them over everything as though they are. Most things have a counter limiting their scope.


RE: Defending American values?
By Smilin on 9/3/2010 4:46:21 PM , Rating: 2
You're right. A Base commander has no legal control over what a nearby civilian business can do.

Here's the kicker though: He has legal control over their customers!

This is how it would go down if they refused.
1. Commander to shop owner: "don't sell that game"
2. Shop owner to commander: "FU, I'm selling it"
3. Commander to troops: "The shop is off limits. You are ordered not to enter."
4. Troops to commander, "Sir, yes Sir"
5. Shop owner to commander: "not fair! The constitution or something!!"

This happens all the time. Near every base there is some sort of seedy part of town (or some strip club known for it's coke dealers) where solders/sailors get into trouble all the time and that part of town is placed off limits.


RE: Defending American values?
By Smilin on 9/3/2010 4:55:06 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry misread your post.

Yes, definately has control over civilian business onbase.

Also has control over civilian business *near* base for reasons I outlined above.


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