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Toyota plans to sell 1 million hybrids per year this decade

The first mass production hybrid vehicle, the Prius, came from Toyota in the late 1990s. The Prius was soon joined by several other hybrid vehicles in the Japanese market including larger SUVs and vehicles aimed at commercial use. Today, Toyota offers hybrid vehicles from its luxury brand Lexus in the U.S. along with the Prius, Camry Hybrid, and Highlander Hybrid.

Toyota Motor Company (TMC) has announced that in Japan the sales of hybrid vehicles have topped the million unit mark. The Prius was also the best selling vehicle in Japan in 2009.

Globally, Toyota has sold over 2.68 million hybrid vehicles as of July 31, 2010. The company currently sells eight hybrid vehicles outside Japan with overseas sales for TMC at 1.68 million units. According to Toyota, its hybrid vehicles have resulted in some significant savings in greenhouse gas emissions. TMC figures that since 1997, its hybrids have resulted in four million less tons of CO2 emissions in Japan alone and 15 million fewer tons of CO2 produced globally.

Toyota has bigger plans still for its hybrid vehicle sales. The company plans to sell a million hybrid vehicles per year during this decade and add hybrid models to every vehicle in its line as early as 2020. Toyota's iconic Prius hybrid was launched in 1997. More recently, Toyota and electric vehicle maker Tesla have worked together on a new plant and the development of hybrid and full-electric vehicles.

There were also reports in May that a minivan using Prius hybrid technology would be coming next spring.



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Good plan
By Moishe on 8/9/2010 10:05:24 AM , Rating: 2
I'm glad that someone is innovating and acting on long term plans. Good for Toyota. I'm thinking that by 2020 there will be a ton of hybrids, maybe even 50% of all sales. At that point I think we'll have a good enough idea of the lifespan of hybrids and I may feel comfortable buying one.

Hopefully the economy will pick back up and let me afford one by then.




RE: Good plan
By Hieyeck on 8/9/2010 11:29:28 AM , Rating: 1
http://onemansblog.com/2007/03/27/prius-outdoes-hu...

OK, not realy. A good giggle as the assumptions aren't fair, but neither are they entirely inaccurate. The following is a link to a more reasonable report that details the research, a very interesting read, even for non-technical people.

http://cnwmr.com/nss-folder/automotiveenergy/DUST%...


RE: Good plan
By usbseawolf2000 on 8/9/2010 12:52:36 PM , Rating: 2
Dude, it has been debunked a long time ago. Where have you been?


RE: Good plan
By Hieyeck on 8/9/2010 2:08:59 PM , Rating: 1
Living in Ontario where the nickel in the battery is mined:
http://www.google.ca/images?hl=en&q=nickel%20minin...

And born in HK, China:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/26/business/global/...
http://seekingalpha.com/article/180281-china-s-rar...

I'm not against green tech, but it should NOT be screwing up ANYONE's backyard or anyone's LIFE: http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=chinese+mining...

Really debunked. [/sarcasm]


RE: Good plan
By usbseawolf2000 on 8/9/2010 2:37:15 PM , Rating: 2
Just look around dude. Nickel is in the change in your pocket. It is in your stainless steel spoon and fork. It is used in a lot of things. Prius' battery weights 99 lbs and probably 30 lbs Nickel. It cuts down 3,000 gallons of gasoline. That alone weights at least 18,000 lbs.


RE: Good plan
By Hieyeck on 8/10/2010 9:21:47 AM , Rating: 2
I use a credit card and bamboo chopsticks, because coins jangle annoyingly and I'm Asian. Practical ways of being greener without being stupid.

Trace the nickel in the battery alone. Mined in Sudbury, trucked south to Great Lakes ports, shipped through locks down the Saint Lawrence, transfered to ocean cargos, shipped to northern Europe, refined in Europe, shipped or trained to China (I'm not familiar with the infrastructure), converted to in China, shipped to Japan, assembled in Japan, and finally delivered to you in North America. The nickel alone has already travelled at least 40,000KM just to get to your showroom. All that fuel just to get a battery into your new hybrid.

Now do the math, 12000 litres over 300K KM. You shipped 30 pounds of nickel (and 69 pounds of whatever metal hyrdrides) around the world just to save 40 millilitres of gas per km.

It's dumb. You want to save fuel? Get a diesel. Some VW models mpg rating is close to 60. Better yet, change your habits. There's more to conservation than just MPG. Don't buy a locally manufactured car. The NA mentality is too geared toward consumerism and the car will only last 3-5 years. Buy one actually made in Japan (not, for example, a Corolla, made in Canada) and the car will be useable for 300K km without major repairs, instead of falling apart at 100K km


RE: Good plan
By phryguy on 8/10/2010 2:10:49 PM , Rating: 1
Stupid? I'm Asian too but it seems you're just filled w/misinformation.

Even if one buys a car that was "locally" assembled doesn't mean the parts and raw materials didn't come from around the world. See http://ngccommunity.nationalgeographic.com/ngcblog... and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivdhpdqCQAA.

Save fuel? Per http://www.eia.doe.gov/kids/energy.cfm?page=oil_ho... a barrel of oil produces almost 2x the amount of gasoline as it does diesel. 60 mpg? In the US there are NO currently sold diesels that get even a combined mpg of >40 let alone "close to 60". See http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/advancedSearch.htm for yourself.

So, saving 18000 pounds of gasoline isn't anything?

One can see the most efficient cars at http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/new-cars/b...


RE: Good plan
By phryguy on 8/10/2010 3:45:06 AM , Rating: 2
It's thoroughly debunked junk science that refuses to die.

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-417227/...
http://www.pacinst.org/topics/integrity_of_science...
http://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/200711/mrgreen_ma...
http://www.toyota.com/html/dyncon/2007/september/h...

The "article" was written by a bored college who "threw the paper together in 1/2 hour of being bored. I was just having fun lol" per http://www.mercurycougar.net/forums/showpost.php?p...


RE: Good plan
By Hieyeck on 8/10/2010 9:43:32 AM , Rating: 2
I already said it's filled with poor assumptions, but that doesn't make it entirely untrue. Good lord does no one possess the ability for critical thinking? See my other replies. Give me hydrogen cars (fuel cells or fuel), give me mass transit and high-speed rail, but FFS, kill hybrids and electrics. Japan's high-speed rail runs right through urban centres and mountains. America has suburbs and flat ground. If Japan can do it, why not America?


RE: Good plan
By phryguy on 8/10/2010 2:17:28 PM , Rating: 2
Public transportation is great. Good luck getting much of that built in the US, esp. in California (where I lived before). There, you have rich folks coming up w/excuses to not have high speed rail because they're considered about their property values. It's a form of "not in my backyard"-ism. You have people opposing having BART go further south for unclear (to me) reasons.

Hydrogen fuel cells are a bad idea. The energy input needed to produce hydrogen via electrolysis is far greater than the output that will come out of the fuel cell. Better to put that energy straight into batteries of an EV.

I did an analysis of CNW's junk science and posted it at http://web.archive.org/web/20080324061047/http://w...

Why kill hybrids? The ICE (internal combustion engine) doesn't need to run at low speeds and when idling. Some energy that would otherwise be wasted as heat and brake test is recaptured and repurposed.

Look at http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/new-cars/b... You can have larger and more powerful vehicles getting fuel economy that exceeds underpowered econoboxes or you can have medium sized versatile hatchbacks (like the Prius) that get far better combined mileage than anything else.


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