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China is planning to build a 1,000 kph locomotive, which would nearly double the current record speed.  (Source: China Daily)

The new train design revives a concept bandied about since the 1960s -- a vacuum tube train. To date the concept has never been commercially implemented.  (Source: Capsule Pipelines)
Design would almost double today's record speed

We've discussed a couple of times the U.S.'s growing gap in high speed rail compared to China.  As fossil fuels become more scarce, more expensive, and more dangerous from a political standpoint, mass transit solutions look increasingly appealing.  High speed rail is particularly promising as it promises not only to reduce fossil fuel use, but also to get you to your destination faster.

Researchers at the Chinese Academy of Sciences and Chinese Academy of Engineering (CAE) reportedly are preparing a record-shattering 1,000 kilometer per hour train, according to the 
Beijing Times.  

The new trains will make use of a vacuum tube to reduce friction losses.  They will first build a prototype vacuum magnetic suspension train capable of traveling between 500 and 600 kph.  That gives it a shot at breaking the record set by Japan's JR-Maglev train, which achieved a speed of 581 km/h (361 mph).  The record for a traditional railed train was set by France's TGV at 574.8 km/h (357.18 mph).

After the prototype, the group plans to implement a smaller train capable of speeds of as much as 1,000 kph.  Shen Zhiyun, a member of the research team, comments, "The speed can be reached by making vacuum pipelines for maglev trains to run through, with no air resistance."

Daryl Oster, who owns the U.S. patent on evacuated tube (vacuum) rail, now works at the CAE.  Along with Zhiyun and another researcher, Zhang Yaoping, he is leading efforts to deploy the technology.  The team hopes to begin laying ETT rail lines within the next ten years.

It would use less steel than current trains, but would be slightly more expensive.  China is targeting a cost of 200 million yuan ($29.54M USD) per kilometer for its traditional rail.  The Evacuated Tube Transport (ETT) rail would cost approximately 210 to 220 million yuan ($31.0M USD to $32.49M USD) per kilometer.

Currently the planned trains travel at 350 kph.  A cost increase of 5 to 10 percent seems a fair tradeoff to score nearly twice the speed.  It's just one more example of how ambitious China is when it comes to high speed rail.



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RE: kph
By Quadrillity on 8/5/2010 5:15:51 PM , Rating: -1
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You've done a good job of upsetting the rest of the world so far, why buck the trend?


On that note... NEVER expect nor ask for our help during any disaster be it man made or natural. We wouldn't want to "upset" you and further.


RE: kph
By FaceMaster on 8/5/2010 5:47:55 PM , Rating: 5
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On that note... NEVER expect nor ask for our help during any disaster be it man made or natural. We wouldn't want to "upset" you and further.


Why would we want your help? You'd only make it worse, or try to steal our country's oil or something.


RE: kph
By NanoTube1 on 8/5/10, Rating: -1
RE: kph
By heffeque on 8/6/2010 12:31:21 AM , Rating: 5
We didn't even help our own people (Katrina anyone? I bet most people don't know that the place is still a miserable mess) How can other countries expect us to help THEM!


RE: kph
By Quadrillity on 8/6/2010 8:07:51 AM , Rating: 1
Katrina? Wow, you are one brainwashed media tool... Do you realize that they got more than a weeks notice to: "get your s*** and get the f*** out, there is a HUGE storm coming your way".

But that's OK, it is well within reason to build your homes BELOW SEA LEVEL in one of the most active hurricane regions in the world. If Bush hadn't sent that elite team of saboteurs, the levies would have held up. Curse your Bush! -sarcasm

While we're at it lets also have sympathy for people that park single wide trailers in TORNADO ALLEY.

There were hundreds of helicopters and other rescue teams zipping about after the initial storm saving people while most of the city was looting TVs, Jewelry, and whatever else. In fact, I remember several stories that showed people SHOOTING at the rescue helicopter!!! "Oh look! Someone's here to save us! SHOOT EM!"

You are a pathetic fool if you think my efforts should go to save people who build their homes in places that are very susceptible to flooding/fires/earthquakes. Don't get me wrong, everyone has to live somewhere, but New Orleans is by far a TERRIBLE choice for a decent person to live. That flood almost cleansed that entire area of scum that was living there.

They were warned far in advance to get the hell out of there. They did not listen. So Bush was blamed as a racist as a result. The world moves on, stfu.

I guess we should have just sat back and watched when the earthquake at Hati came too huh?


RE: kph
By Iaiken on 8/6/2010 10:48:49 AM , Rating: 3
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If Bush hadn't sent that elite team of saboteurs, the levies would have held up. Curse your Bush! -sarcasm


He didn't have to, the levies had a 15 year head start on falling down themselves. Unfortunately, no level of government wanted to pay for their maintenance and improvement. More interestingly, they are unwilling to work with the Dutch (who have far more expertise in this area) to create a failure tolerant system of levies.

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While we're at it lets also have sympathy for people that park single wide trailers in TORNADO ALLEY.


Where do you draw the line Quadrillity, between earthquakes, flooding, deserts, tornadoes and all other natural disasters there's practically no livable space in North America according to your hodge-podge logic.

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You are a pathetic fool if you think my efforts should go to save people who build their homes in places that are very susceptible to flooding/fires/earthquakes.


Not as pathetic as your apathetic self. The problem was a manageable one.

They had 15 years warning that this was possible, 15 years to spend the time and money it would take to maintain and upgrade the levy system. 15 years to collaborate with other experts in the field to come up with cost effective solutions to this problems. 15 years to add fault tolerance to the existing levy system.

Which cost more? To upgrade and improve the levies so they didn't sink into the mud or fall over with excess pressure, to build in overflow zones and evacuation zones? Would it have really cost more than the 91 billion dollars in damage that the failures caused?

The entire time of the Bush and Clinton administrations, the Government of Louisiana had sought assistance from the fed and the Army Corps of Engineers to expedite the upgrades to the levies in failure prone areas. Each time they were either flat-out denied or shoved aside in favor of other earmark projects. This was in spite of the fact that the Regan administration had tasked the Army Corps of Engineers to conduct an engineering survey of the levy system at which time they validate the now 5-year old concerns of the New Orleans civil engineers.

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That flood almost cleansed that entire area of scum that was living there.


I've been there both before and since and I can say that your assertion is founded solely in ignorance. Both times, the people were friendly, happy, and I found myself invited to several dinners, parties and other events at peoples private homes just because. In Buffalo NY, people rioted, smashed, looted and burned because the Sabres got eliminated from the Stanley Cup, should we flood that city to cleanse them? You can't judge an entire people for the actions of a few idiots in the absence of law and order.

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I guess we should have just sat back and watched when the earthquake at Hati came too huh?


Ironic you should bring that up since it damages your argument so badly. Within 24 hours the US had established an air bridge to Haiti and within 48 hours they had several hospital, support and supply ships making supply runs back and forth. Before the fifth day, 17 ships, 48 helicopters and 12 fixed-wing aircraft in addition to 10,000 sailors and Marines were involved in supply, rescue and policing efforts.

Meanwhile in Louisiana, it took the US government 48 hours to even approve additional national guardsmen, let alone get them to the disaster area. Further frustrating efforts were the delays by the fed in allowing international aid to the region, even Canada (the closest ally of the USA) had to put aid ships in international waters off the coast until approval came on September 2nd. European nations could not render aid until the fed finally OK'd it on September 4th.

In a disaster, time is of the essence and the Bush administration fumbled badly and because of it, even neighboring states were left waiting on the fed and Louisiana was left to fend for itself the first 48 hours. He had executive power to get these people the aid they needed and the opportunity to get it to them with expediency and he squandered both.


RE: kph
By Quadrillity on 8/6/2010 12:56:52 PM , Rating: 1
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Unfortunately, no level of government wanted to pay for their maintenance and improvement.

Which goes back to my statement about where its STUPID TO LIVE BELOW SEA LEVEL THAT HAS A REAL GOOD CHANCE OF FLOODING. And another thing... should we rely on "government" to babysit us? Can we not use common sense to protect ourselves and our families. Gov tit issue going on here...
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They had 15 years warning that this was possible..

Yep, I agree. I wouldn't be living in conditions where it was "likely" that I lose my life and possessions because of living below sea-level in a flood-zone . So it's the governments fault that those people chose to live there?
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I've been there both before and since and I can say that your assertion is founded solely in ignorance.

So you went to the "good parts" which accounts for about 2% of the entire city? Good comparison that you made there...

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Within 24 hours the US had established an air bridge to Haiti and...

Yes, it's true that our disaster prevention/recovery system were very lacking. Haiti was proof enough that were did in fact vamp up those programs significantly. So what's your point? Why do you and many other have this notion that "the government" should look over each and every aspect of our lives? If people chose to live in a flood-zone that is held back by man made levies, then so be it! We still sent help regardless of how effective it was after being told to evacuate. The government isn't here to prevent stupid people from being stupid (impossible). But one of my main points is that how can we even launch a successful rescue mission if we have the people shooting at the workers and off looting stores? You can say whatever you want to, but only a fool would have stayed there with weeks of repeat warning.


RE: kph
By Iaiken on 8/6/2010 2:15:46 PM , Rating: 3
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Which goes back to my statement about where its STUPID TO LIVE BELOW SEA LEVEL THAT HAS A REAL GOOD CHANCE OF FLOODING. And another thing... should we rely on "government" to babysit us? Can we not use common sense to protect ourselves and our families.


The only problem with that is that it is in the governments interest that the port of Louisiana stay open and operational. It is the SINGLE HIGHEST VOLUME PORT IN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE and is responsible for more tonnage per annum than Los Angeles, Long Beach and San Diego COMBINED.

Like it or not, this port is critical infrastructure and requires an enormous number of people to keep it running efficiently. When you factor in that this port is responsible for over 60% of all US grain exports, it criticality becomes even more apparent.

The amount of duty and excise that the US government makes off imports and exports makes it simply mind-blowing that they were unwilling to spend the money required to keep the city that the port relies upon intact.

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So you went to the "good parts" which accounts for about 2% of the entire city? Good comparison that you made there...


Nope, I spent a month there both times and I got to go everywhere, city center, the port, the bayou and each of the different parishes. It's an amazing city and if you never go there in your lifetime, you're missing out. The only way I can describe the spirit of New Orleans is that it is like gaiety of Montreal on steroids with better food.


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