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NVIDIA is sure to come out fighting

ATI is one of the biggest players in the discrete and integrated GPU market with rival NVIDIA. The two firms fight bitterly for dominance in the market and for the crown of fastest video card.

AMD has taken heat from analysts and investors since the purchase of ATI because the graphics unit has performed poorly for the most part. At one point in 2008, AMD was forced to take an $880 million write down related to ATI. AMD executives are feeling smug today with the announcement that ATI has taken the top spot in the discrete GPU market from NVIDIA for the first time since AMD purchased the company.

Jon Peddie Research (JPR) reports that the overall shipments of graphics cards for Q1 2010 were up 4%. However, shipments of video cards for the discrete desktop graphics market slipped 21.4% thanks in part to the massive growth of notebook sales. JPR reports that shipments are 38.6% above the same period last year for the market.

AMD posted the biggest gains in company history in both the discrete and integrated desktop products market. NVIDIA at the same time posted losses in shipments in all categories except its integrated notebook GPU business that grew 10%.

AMD had 24.4% of the GPU market for the quarter, Intel held 54.9%, and NVIDIA has 19.7% of the market. AMD reported that its revenue in the graphic segment grew 8% from the previous quarter and 87% when compared to the same quarter of last year with $440 million in revenue.

AMD claims that in the discrete graphics market it holds 51.1% of the market with NVIDIA having 44.5% of the market.

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RE: If only...
By LordSojar on 7/30/2010 10:04:13 AM , Rating: 0
You "sir" are an obvious Nvidia plant, or retarded. Take your pick.

I choose neither, and instead back up my points with evidence, rather than turn this into an ad hominem argument, as is common on Dailytech it seems...

nVidia has plenty of their own flaws, as is evidenced by the piss poor job with GF100. The original design called for a much tighter architecture, and what they released was embarrassing by any electrical physics standards. Having an insight into the process which was used to engineer that behemoth gives me a perspective that few people (you or any other DT reader) will likely get, unless you or someone you are close with work for nVidia.

The 5870 was not overpriced at all at launch.

By what basis do you make this argument? I certainly hope it isn't based on fab production costs, be they measured per chip or per spin. In either sense, the 5850 and 5870 are terribly overpriced, by about $100+ USD on either chip. The 5870 is particularly heinous in this regard, while the original MSRP of the 5850 was more balanced.

In addition...

Indeed, considering its still effectively king of the hill at the exact same price, it was exceedingly good value at launch.

That's just plain wrong! The king of the hill at that price points falls to SLi GTX 460s. At 400 even for two of the 768MB versions, that literally kicks not only the 5870 to the curb, but also the GTX470 and 480. In reference to the bit about at launch... I'd certainly hope it was, seeing as it was 7 months ahead of anything nVidia had to offer. There is a reason I bought one for this particular rig after all...

If you speak of single GPU setups only, then honestly, I'd have to give that award to the GTX470, thanks to a substantially lower price. The HD5850 is a very marketable card, despite it's synthetically higher price, as its performance meets its pricing. The HD5850 is (or rather was) well priced at release, until the MSRP was raised when ATi decided to pull an nVidia... nVidia has certainly been foul when it came to pricing in the past.

RE: If only...
By SlyNine on 7/31/2010 8:15:50 PM , Rating: 2
You're sporting a bit of a strawman yourself. Very few 5xxx cards have problems, and you cannot say for sure the problem is squarely on the card.

Meanwhile I own 3 different 5xxx parts and none of them have problems. You say look in to it. Why should I have to prove your premise. You prove that a lot of people are having this corruption problem and that it's their VIDEOCARDS fault.

I know I had 4 different 8800GT's 512MB (bought 2, both had to be replaced) and ALL of them overheated and crashed, I had to put an after market HSF on them to fix it.

As far as the 5870 being over priced, You're making the claim it is, so you should be the one defending your claim. Prove the negative man. Show me the "fab production costs, be they measured per chip or per spin". BTW I agree that it is currently overpriced, But then again the real price of something is always what people are willing to pay for it.

I'll take a single card over SLI any day, SLI scaling may be good, but until they use a unified frame buffer I say no thanks. Been down that road and didn't care for it.

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