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Drugs are bad mmmkay!

Cocainemarijuanatobaccoalcohol -- the usual drugs and their dangers are familiar to most children and parents alike.  Is sound an equally dangerous "gateway drug"?

As preposterous as that idea sounds, it's precisely what the Oklahoma Bureau of Narcotics claims.  They are warning parents of a dangerous new drug -- binaural sound.

Binaural sound, first discovered in 1839 by Heinrich Wilhelm Dove, indeed has a profound impact on brain waves.  However, in the past this impact has shown to be generally positive, with side effects such as reduced anxiety and pain relief.

Oklahoma officials are convinced, though, that it's just the latest way for kids to get high.  They call it "i-dosing" and claim that "digital dealers" are selling children the aural equivalent of crack in their eyes.

Oklahoma Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs spokesman Mark Woodward comments, "Kids are going to flock to these sites just to see what it is about and it can lead them to other places."

Woodward claims that binaural sounds are similar to getting high on marijuana, cocaine, opium, and peyote.  He also claims that children are buying a 40-page instruction manual that instructs them on how to locate and get high off the droning tracks.  He also claims that the "digital drugs" will take children down a dark path of self destruction and harder drugs.

Oklahoma Mustang Public School district is already looking to kick off the cyberwar on cyberdrugs.  It has sent parents a warning letter and banned iPods in school lest the children start getting high in the hallways.  It is also keeping a wary eye on cell phone use at school.

Are government officials in Oklahoma smoking the whacky pipe?  Or will future presidents be forced to claim in embarrassment that they put on the headphones, but didn't listen?

We're not condoning drug use or anything, but here's some binaural tracks to check out for yourself: "Gates of Hades", "Pearl Jam - Nothing As It Seems", "Pearl Jam - Of The Girl".

 



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Another form of government control
By chunkymonster on 7/16/2010 9:41:12 AM , Rating: 5
Our elected officials and federal agencies have way too much tie on their hands if they are worrying about binaural sounds.

Seems to me that there are much larger issues at hand that need to be addressed before ramming through more bullshit legislation that is meant to "save the children". Really now, I don't know about other folks but I am tired of hearing what needs to be stopped, legislated, controlled, regulated, or outright banned under the guise of protecting children. I can protect my own children, fuck you very much! The last thing anyone needs is another tax sucking State or Federal Agency telling me that they know what is better for me and my family than I do!

We're talking about binaural sound here! WTF?!




RE: Another form of government control
By MrBlastman on 7/16/2010 10:13:35 AM , Rating: 4
Right on.

While these officials are at it, they might as well ban the following:

1. Chocolate. I'm obsessed with Chocolate. I revel in utter blissful delight when I consume the substance and experience flirtatious trepidations of sublime azure clouds. It truly is an experience I repeat often.

Chocolate is bad, mmkay.

2. Fruit. I love fruit, in fact, blended fruit smoothies are my enemy. These cornucopias of swirled indulgence with a jolt of turbinado truly have me in shackles when I consume them.

Fruit smoothies are bad, mmkay.

3. Sex. I love having sex with my wife. It must be bad, right?

Sex is bad, mmkay.

4. Sleeping. While I shudder at the thought of sleeping away half a day by oversleeping, a nice 7 or 8 hour nap certainly affords me a bit of a wallow in endorphic delight as my mauve dreams of crimson revelry roll through my thoughts in a twirling, swimming sensual repasse.

Sleepy is truly bad, mmkay.

I could list more but I'll stop here for now. If the government gets wind of too many things that feel good or cause joy, we might not have much left, right? After all, life must be full of pain and suffering and any fun that we might have is bad--at least, to this gestapo.


RE: Another form of government control
By tedrodai on 7/16/2010 11:24:29 AM , Rating: 4
Say these kids couldn't access binaural sounds legally to "get high" with...they're gonna turn around and create some new fad so they can belong to some special group that finds it interresting or cool. That's how they're programmed.

And if they're truly inclined to find ways to "get high", making it illegal isn't exactly going to stop them.

How about they just promote methods of good parenting instead, or start making society deal with the consequences of their actions?


By Dr of crap on 7/16/2010 12:22:52 PM , Rating: 2
You must be a another planet.
Here on Earth we don't parent our kids.
Have you been with 10+ year olds lately?

Instead of going back into the homes to help the kids succeed in school, they come up with more and more programs to "help" these unfortunate kids out!
These are not unfortunate kids, these are kids that need parents to keep them in line!
Having two of my own, I can tell you how the parents are just from being around other kids for awhile. It isn't rocket science. I don't need a degree in human behavior to figure that out!

But you know what? I think the local schools should raise my taxes to implement a system to help out these kids that fall behind!

HA, HA, and it does happen ALL OVER!!!


RE: Another form of government control
By bupkus on 7/16/2010 12:44:23 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
If the government gets wind of too many things that feel good or cause joy, we might not have much left, right? After all, life must be full of pain and suffering and any fun that we might have is bad--at least, to this gestapo.
You have touched on a point I would like to expand upon. Not some glancing reference to any one National administration but to the use of marketing to stimulate a sense of need in addition to other control mechanisms.
But first, to those who will prematurely see this as a sly way of introducing extreme environmentalist ideals... read the entire post!
Imagine if you will an agrarian society with little central government control. Materialism is a low priority but peaceful coexistence is valued. I multi-national conglomerate moves in, builds a factory but nobody really wants to work for them. What to do? Either teach them their lives are indeed incomplete without all the stuff they should want or take away their current means of support so they must turn to the factory for money to now buy their sustenance.

Another example? Christianity labeling sexual behavior as original sin as a punishable and damnable transgression. This results in a forced and difficult sublimation of sexual urges. The resulting stress may cause some to discover new continents but mostly this increases male competitiveness and teenage angst. Know anyone who has drugs, alcohol included, available for use on a date just to seal the deal? Perhaps another byproduct of virtue?
What about the current political discord and lack of civility between the two U.S. political parties? How does that control us and who does that serve?

The list can go on and on. Freedom? Good luck finding your way out of the fog.


By chunkymonster on 7/19/2010 9:10:08 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
Another example? Christianity labeling sexual behavior as original sin as a punishable and damnable transgression. This results in a forced and difficult sublimation of sexual urges. The resulting stress may cause some to discover new continents but mostly this increases male competitiveness and teenage angst. Know anyone who has drugs, alcohol included, available for use on a date just to seal the deal? Perhaps another byproduct of virtue? What about the current political discord and lack of civility between the two U.S. political parties? How does that control us and who does that serve?


Not sure what Church you attended, but any Church that I have been to (both Fundamental Baptist growing up and now Catholic) sex is not regarded as "original sin". Original sin is a totally different thing from the sex and neither the tween shall meet. Original sin is also (mostly) a tenant of the Catholic Church, not all Christian denominations. And, the Catholic Church teaches that original sin was about Adam and Eve not following God's word; not about Adam and Eve having sex.

If anything the Catholic Church promotes and preaches for a loving sexual relationship within marriage. But that's the key phrase; within marriage. Any Church I have attended (Protestant and Catholic) does preach against (not vilify) pre-marital sex with a consistent message that sexual intercourse is best practiced between consenting married people. So, it's not that sex of any kind is damnable, it's pre-marital sex that is should be curbed. Blaming the "Church" for sexual attitudes is like blaming the boogey-man for being afraid of the dark.

Now if you want to split hairs about what religion vilifies sex, Islam subjugates it's followers and uses sex as a means of control, not Christianity. For proof of Islamic attitudes towards sex and using sex as a control point, simply look to the Islam attitude towards women on the whole and the promise of a reward of virgins for martyrdom. That's religious subjugation and control of sexual behavior!


By Smilin on 7/19/2010 1:37:09 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Another example? Christianity labeling sexual behavior as original sin as a punishable and damnable transgression


Wrong.

You're not a Christian are you?


RE: Another form of government control
By Silver2k7 on 7/18/2010 5:25:35 PM , Rating: 2
Don't forget to ban Coca-Cola, im sure that cola-nut drink is addictive ;P


By Silver2k7 on 7/18/2010 5:27:30 PM , Rating: 2
And add Coffey to the list while your at it, and Tea..

*this is an unserious post if your wondering*


By thurston on 7/18/2010 6:48:16 PM , Rating: 2
The cola-nut part is not addictive but the coca part would be if they didn't remove the cocaine alkaloids.


By zinfamous on 7/18/2010 1:18:37 PM , Rating: 2
well, the gov't likely would not make an issue of this if the mixers of binaural sound that post it on youtube don't advertise it as something that produces a "marijuana-like high."

It's marketing BS used to exploit the mindless teenagers that are finding whippets and robotrippin more difficult to come by.

There was an MIT? binaural researcher on NPR the other day that scoffed at the potential for binaural sound to produce any kind of euphoria. It absolutely does not, she says. First, you'd need stereo headphones to experience any type of reaction. Second, it simply isn't going to give you a high.

I blame the people that produce this stuff and use such shady tactics to market their sound mixes; and then of course the Feds for jumping head first into an issue without doing any sort of research on the topic. At the very least, spend cash on a campaign that subverts the claims of the marketing nimrods that hope to profit off of this crud.


By jerry0065 on 7/20/2010 5:56:24 AM , Rating: 2
In order to learn more about binaural beats and brainwave entrainment, I highly recommend:

http://www.ThePsychologist.com/virtuallightandsoun...

You can also download FREE relief software to safely and quickly reverse effects of I-Dose.


Someone please remind me...
By Motoman on 7/16/2010 9:55:20 AM , Rating: 5
...why we tolerate having such stupid people in our government...and why we keep electing them.

Oh, that's right...we're stupid.

Democracy is a mechanism that ensures the people have a government no better than they deserve.




RE: Someone please remind me...
By ClownPuncher on 7/16/2010 12:21:38 PM , Rating: 3
It's Oklahoma, what did anyone expect?


By geddarkstorm on 7/16/2010 12:54:56 PM , Rating: 2
I think I threw up a little reading this. Does this mean DT should have labels on their articles?

"Warning: The level of stupidity within could be hazardous to your health. If you are pregnant or diagnosed with a disease, do not read more then one paragraph per day."


RE: Someone please remind me...
By TSS on 7/16/10, Rating: 0
By ClownPuncher on 7/16/2010 4:57:49 PM , Rating: 2
Burn the books!


RIAA
By Integral9 on 7/16/2010 7:56:46 AM , Rating: 5
I guess that makes the RIAA the biggest drug lords in the world. I for one, would love to hear about the ATF kicking in their doors.




RE: RIAA
By Integral9 on 7/16/2010 7:57:24 AM , Rating: 2
oops I meant DEA. I need more coffee.


RE: RIAA
By gorehound on 7/16/2010 8:15:50 AM , Rating: 2
I would love to see the RIAA die a slow and painful death.
And this post is pretty stupid.They should be listening to my band.The sound will get you high and make you fly..............
yeah right


RE: RIAA
By tedrodai on 7/16/2010 11:11:54 AM , Rating: 2
Heck, I'd settle for a quick, painless death.

...any kind of riddance of the RIAA is good. I'm no pirate, but you won't catch me buying music that supports them. Now if only I could talk my wife out of it...


This...
By BarkHumbug on 7/16/2010 8:35:54 AM , Rating: 2
Sounds too good to be true.




RE: This...
By Camikazi on 7/16/2010 9:17:34 AM , Rating: 5
It's a placebo effect basically, if you don't expect the noise to do anything you will not experience a thing. If you go into it expecting to get the feeling of a high you most likely will. It's kind of like giving non-alcoholic beer to someone who doesn't know the difference and making them believe it is real, eventually they will start acting drunk.

Our mind is a hell of a drug.


RE: This...
By Avatar28 on 7/16/2010 12:46:29 PM , Rating: 2
Somewhat true. It's not exactly placebo per se. The binaural beats (which is all the i-dosers are) help to get your mind into certain brainwave patterns. It is not automatic, though, it does require some degree of clearing your mind and letting go as it were. It is similar to hypnosis in that you have to be willing. In reality, the same sort of effects can be achieved through meditation and biofeedback.


RE: This...
By MikeO on 7/21/2010 4:45:43 AM , Rating: 2
I thought so too and tried some examples and they did absolutely nothing. No beats, just noise. I may have to give this another go as I think it's just fascinating stuff.


Article unclear
By Spivonious on 7/16/2010 10:00:19 AM , Rating: 2
This article makes it sound as if they're targeting music. They're not. There are tracks that are supposed to effect emotions out of the listener.

http://brain.web-us.com/thescience.htm

Scroll down to "How it Works on the Brain" and "Altered States".




RE: Article unclear
By menace on 7/16/2010 1:52:14 PM , Rating: 2
Binaural sound? Anyone with two ears hears that all the time. I think they mean binaural beats.


RE: Article unclear
By thurston on 7/18/2010 6:58:35 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
There are tracks that are supposed to effect emotions out of the listener.


Most good music does this.


RE: Article unclear
By Smilin on 7/19/2010 1:43:46 PM , Rating: 2
The tracks are just supposed to trigger entrainment...a method to make your brainwaves "latch" on to a very close but slightly different frequency. Once latched you can change the frequency slowly to move the brain into a more relaxed state.

It takes more than sound though. You have to give visual input as well...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_machine

and NOTHING about this is addictive or "gateway"-like.


This is officially...
By Kutcher on 7/16/2010 12:43:11 PM , Rating: 2
...the most nonsensical article I have ever read on DailyTech.




RE: This is officially...
By nct on 7/16/2010 4:16:02 PM , Rating: 2
No doubt! I had to look at the calendar to make sure I hadn't gone into a coma at my desk and woken up on April 1st.


RE: This is officially...
By thurston on 7/18/2010 7:06:09 PM , Rating: 2
This article may be nonsensical but it should be posted or broadcast on all news outlets. The world needs to see just how ridiculous the people behind the war on drugs really are.


RE: This is officially...
By Kutcher on 7/19/2010 12:55:20 PM , Rating: 2
Stongly agree.


Anyone remember...
By Obujuwami on 7/16/2010 2:33:54 PM , Rating: 2
that Star Trek TNG episode where Riker brought back some device that you wear on your head and its a "game" where you are supposed to put the disc in the vortex? No? Well it ended up brainwashing the entire crew, sans Will Weaton, and data had to save them all with a flashlight.

I doubt this will do the same thing, but it sounds awfully familiar.....




RE: Anyone remember...
By plinkplonk on 7/17/2010 1:52:48 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah I remember that, definitely need to get my hands on that game some time, looks great! :P

It seems to me that the guys down in Oklahoma have realised they can't stop illegal drug use so they're making up another form which they can police in order to make their anti-drug success rates look better.


RE: Anyone remember...
By thurston on 7/18/2010 7:09:13 PM , Rating: 2
+1000


RE: Anyone remember...
By w1z4rd on 7/19/2010 6:15:34 AM , Rating: 2
i completely agree


dumb
By CowKing on 7/16/2010 5:52:15 PM , Rating: 2
Kids that have never been high think that it is feeling relaxed and completely zen. It's not it's like having a bag thrown over your brain and not being able to think...at least what I've done. Do. Not. Want.




RE: dumb
By Omega215D on 7/17/2010 9:36:17 AM , Rating: 2
The Pearl Jam track Nothing as it seems does have a mellowing effect but how is that bad? Is relaxing a bad thing now? Soon Americans will only be drones as any form of relaxation and enjoyment is deemed harmful.

So is doing QiGong considered a drug too as it relaxes people and very zen?


RE: dumb
By CowKing on 7/19/2010 2:09:02 AM , Rating: 2
? you've OBVIOUSLY never been high


Those Pearl Jam tracks..
By stlrenegade on 7/16/2010 10:04:37 AM , Rating: 2
are from their 2000 album "Binaural." Just to clarify those came out way before this aural drug story came onto the scene.




RE: Those Pearl Jam tracks..
By Fracture on 7/16/2010 10:37:05 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, but it took the government 10 years and probably 3 billion dollars to do a "study" on it and figure out that they should protect you from yourself.

Thank god the government knows better than we do.


Pearl Jam
By Gio6518 on 7/16/2010 8:43:20 AM , Rating: 3
now it makes sense......why i replay pearl jam nothing as it seems over and over.........betty ford here i come




Hardstyle
By HostileEffect on 7/16/2010 9:47:42 AM , Rating: 1
I think the good majority of people who say sound isn't a drug have never heard hardstyle, hard dance, or hard trance.

Showtek, headhunterz, and frontliners are sure to make you zone out.




RE: Hardstyle
By Camikazi on 7/16/2010 12:47:16 PM , Rating: 2
Heard it gives me a headache, no zoning out at all.


Wikipedia has binaural sound
By blueeyesm on 7/16/2010 10:38:23 AM , Rating: 2
Should they be treated as drug dealers?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binaural_beats




Wait, wait...
By Dr of crap on 7/16/2010 12:27:42 PM , Rating: 2
This comes out of Oaklahoma?
What is happening there and not in the rest of the country?
And I think I can say that just like hypnosis, it will only affect some and not all.
Next we'll be trying to keep kids from playing with that hard round ball that they play games with, because it might hit them in the temple and kill them!
I think they call it baseball!




Naturespace
By Mortando on 7/16/2010 1:18:28 PM , Rating: 2
Geez, I've been listening to Naturespace tracks for a while now while I work. Didn't realize I was working all drugged-up... :/




I just listened to those tracks...
By Calindar on 7/16/2010 8:02:11 PM , Rating: 2
And I am tripping balls! I think I'm already addicted too. Those government officials were right!




By chromal on 7/17/2010 1:56:01 PM , Rating: 2
They might as well try to ban Zen meditation, learning to focus, etc. Binaural brainwave stimulation is old news, played with that over a decade ago using windows audio-editing software to induce Delta waves. Yes, it can work if you have a quiet environment, but it's utterly harmless psychologically and physiologically.

One thing's for sure, this will only popularize an obscure technology. And make the OK Narcotic people look like stupid hillbillies who are afraid of their own shadows.




Where do I get this?
By thurston on 7/18/2010 6:44:07 PM , Rating: 2
This would be so much cheaper than having to keep buying weed. Does anybody have a link?




Which one is it?
By thurston on 7/18/2010 6:53:37 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Woodward claims that binaural sounds are similar to getting high on marijuana, cocaine, opium, and peyote.


Which one is it? All four of those drugs have completely different effects.




On a related note
By DryHumor on 7/19/2010 7:24:55 AM , Rating: 2
Oklahoma officials are warning parents after discovering children having a "natural high" after exercising. The source is believed to be endorphines, which state officials state "is like morphine and very addictive. We are encouraging parents to promote TV and video games to combat the problem."




They want to ban this...
By MrFord on 7/19/2010 2:37:35 PM , Rating: 2
Yet they still allow Avatar in 3D in their theater?
That's gotta do some serious brain damage, if some people wanted to kill themselves after seeing that movie.

Ad what if they can get high with these sounds? You just have to blast some soothing Behemoth, Dimmu Borgir or Mayhem in their headset for a couple minutes to purify them.




Heres a thought.
By dark matter on 7/17/2010 3:29:16 PM , Rating: 1
You need a license for your car, for your software, for you gun.

Why the fuck don't you need one to have kids.

Seriously.




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