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Microsoft's Kevin Turner
Perhaps you could say that implies that Microsoft thinks Apple will rebound from problems?

In the realm of bold statements, you might expect Microsoft's vocal and boisterous CEO Steve Ballmer to be sounding off.  But instead it was mustachioed chief operating officer Kevin Turner who was playing the axman leveling a wild statement against one of Microsoft's chief rivals.

Speaking about the Windows Phone 7 series, which will be released over the holiday season, Turner remarked, "It looks like the iPhone 4 might be their Vista, and I'm okay with that."

The remark was not first time Microsoft admitted that Vista -- which never passed its predecessor Windows XP and was swiftly passed by its successor Windows 7 -- was far from a success.  Ballmer had previously bemoaned that Vista was "not executed well."

It is also unsurprising that the iPhone 4 would be receiving criticism.  From Apple's arrogant approach to antenna issues (it's all in your head -- the phone is just drawing the signal bars wrong) which yielded a new class action suit, to proximity sensor issues, the iPhone 4 is coming under increased scrutiny.  Even the typically pro-Apple 
Consumer Reports, despite offering overall praise for the phone's hardware, said it could not recommend it because of the severe antenna problems.

What is perhaps surprising is that Microsoft would be the one to criticize Apple's phone debacle.  Microsoft just had its own phone bungle when its 2-year long Kin project (stemming from the $500M+ USD Danger acquisition) ended after two months in a train wreck.  Estimates indicate that just over 8,000 Kin phones were sold.  Much of the reason for the failure was reportedly due to Microsoft's insistence that Danger port its code to Windows CE.

Furthermore, Microsoft has even shown close to showing admiration for its rival's success in the smartphone sphere.  It has said that it is "following in Apple's line" in releasing a feature incomplete phone (in its opinion) early, and then filling in the holes.  It is also embracing Apple's approach of censoring adult materials, and even joined in the criticism of Adobe's Flash platform.

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RE: Vista?
By phatboye on 7/14/2010 6:01:36 PM , Rating: 3
Vista was bad when it was first released. It only got better after after MS released those two service packs which fixed a lot of the problems that were present in sp0.

But not everything that went wrong with Vista was MS's fault, a lot of problems stemmed from buggy drivers and poorly coded software. So had Win7 came out directly after XP instead of Vista I don't think Win7 would have gotten as bad a rep as Vista did but I also don't think it would has been as good as it is with the current situation.

RE: Vista?
By StevoLincolnite on 7/14/2010 11:00:19 PM , Rating: 2
But not everything that went wrong with Vista was MS's fault, a lot of problems stemmed from buggy drivers and poorly coded software.

I actually never had much of a problem with software or hardware compatibility with Vista, what I did dislike was:

* The networking, tried setting up a software bridge, it took me over an hour (Because it kept saying there was a problem) to do the exact same thing as I did in 2 minuets on a Windows 7 machine.
Eventually got it to work by deleting the bridge and all network adapters and starting again, even then it still didn't work, had to "repair" the connections first.

* HDD Crunching.

* Hidden Menu's, I mean common, why the hell did they bury stuff like the screen resolution option in a ton of menu's?

* Doesn't play well with low memory machines. (Like my file server with only 512mb of ram, and a Dual Pentium 3 Tualatin~S 1.4ghz).

* Battery life, consumes the battery faster than XP or Windows 7.

All in all, Vista was a "Great" Operating system, and as things matured and supported Windows 7, that support automatically extended to Windows Vista.

But alas, I do find it difficult to use Vista now with having used Windows 7 since the early Beta days, the whole windows snapping to portions of the screen depending which part of the screen you drag it to made all the difference for me, and you don't realize how much you use such a feature until you go without it.

RE: Vista?
By Hyperion1400 on 7/15/2010 7:53:28 AM , Rating: 2
All in all, Vista was a "Great" Operating system, and as things matured and supported Windows 7, that support automatically extended to Windows Vista.

I think you got that backwards?

RE: Vista?
By Aloonatic on 7/15/2010 3:58:37 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, we've all heard the poor driver support excuse, and to be fair, there is a lot of substance to it.

However, that doesn't explain why it took a service pack to get networked printers to work properly.

Why it took a service pack to get simple file movements to work properly.

Why it took 2 service packs to get folder compression to work properly.

There was, and still is, a lot wrong with Vista. I am stuck with having to support it at my place of work now, and it is a pain. Yes, not as bad as it was and pre SP1a XP wasn't much fun either but that doesn't excuse Vista being such a pain in the bum too.

It's OK to use now, but still so many things just don't work well, and the "improvements" in the user experience certainly weren't worth the pain. That is where I think that Win 7 might have had something of an advantage over Vista, had it been released after XP. The user experience improvements which might be small, but are noticeable, that came with Win7 would have at least given people something to have consoled themselves with. In saying that, I think that you are somewhat correct is saying that Win7 would have had a lot of the problems that Vista has, but you will struggle to argue that without giving succor to those who say that Vista was just Win7 beta.

I think that describing it as Win7 beta is a little harsh, but Vista did do a job of getting programmers to change the way that they do things and acted as buffer for drivers, as I assume that Vista and Win7 drivers are somewhat similar, as Win2k and XP drivers were.

Anyway, soon it will be behind us, in a few years Vista will be a memory and I for one will not miss it.

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