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Apple's Steve Jobs

Google's Larry Page  (Source: Latest Technology News)
Larry Page tries to set the record straight with regards to Android

It's no secret that the relationship between Apple and Google is a bit rocky to say the least. While the two companies forged a partnership with the launch of the original iPhone (Google makes its presence known on the iPhone via Mobile Safari search, YouTube app, and Maps app), Steve Jobs over the past six months or so has been growing a bit resentful of Google's rise to power with its Android mobile operating system.

However, Google's Larry Page now contends that Jobs' anger is misplaced. While speaking at the Allen & Co conference this week in Silicon Valley, Page stated, "We had been working on Android a very long time, with the notion of producing phones that are Internet enabled and have good browsers and all that because that did not exist in the marketplace."

"I think that characterization of us entering after is not really reasonable."

Page then went on to say that Jobs' characterization of the events that took place leading up to Google's release of Android OS as "a little bit of rewriting history."

Earlier this year, Steve Jobs went on a rampage at an Apple Town hall stating that Google's "Don’t Be Evil Mantra Is Bulls**t" -- another source contends that Jobs said that "a load of crap" was the actual statement used, but you get the point.

Last month at the All Things D conference, Jobs again touched on the Google subject stating, "They decided to compete with us. We didn't go into the search business!" 

Despite the difference of opinion on Google' motives for Android, Google CEO (and former Apple board member) Eric Schmidt also weighed in stating that the two companies still have a strong partnership with the iPhone. And just this past March, Jobs and Schmidt were seen canoodling outside a cafe in Palo Alto, California.

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RE: How does it feel, Apple?
By akugami on 7/10/2010 12:39:36 AM , Rating: 0
As compared to the anecdotal evidence provided by everyone else? Or the complaining about the antenna issue by everyone who doesn't have an iPhone 4? I'm not saying there isn't an issue. There are many others who have replicated the problem, and on video. Just that I haven't encountered it.

I specifically tried to replicate the problem on two iPhones. I even went into the basement of my house, where the signal has always been pathetic and still was able to make calls and received the same visual bar count. Is it a scientifically sound test? No. But neither are those Youtube videos showing the signal issues.

This isn't a "defend Apple to the death" post. I'm just stating an opinion. You won't find me on here trashing Android, go through my post count if you wish. I just feel that there are probably more people on the forums posting about the iPhone 4 antenna issue that are not iPhone 4 owners than those who are iPhone 4 owners.

As for the glass issue...there are many phones making use of glass in their displays. One negative of glass is that it can shatter. If anyone drank so much of the Kool Aid that they thought the reinforced glass Apple uses is indestructible then that person is stupid. But it's not an Apple only issue and that anyone who bought an iPhone should have weighed this issue before making said iPhone purchase.

Anyone interested in the antenna issue can follow these blogs.

If anyone else has an interesting review on the antenna I'd like to read it. Unlike most people, I actually researched the issue before I bought the iPhone 4. I can honestly say that I'm luckily unaffected by the iPhone 4 antenna issue and am aware of the possibility of breaking the phone when dropping it.

Last post on the antenna issue as this is not an iPhone post. You can PM me on Anandtech if you really feel like pursuing the conversation.

RE: How does it feel, Apple?
By dark matter on 7/10/2010 6:00:47 AM , Rating: 2
Really, it's so easy to replicate it. You just bridge the gap with your finger on the bottom left of the phone.

If you're struggling, it's because you don't want to believe. that's all.

RE: How does it feel, Apple?
By sprockkets on 7/10/2010 11:34:09 AM , Rating: 1
Tried it, didn't work on the phone. Not that I would buy one, but just saying, it doesn't seem to affect me if I had one, and I'm left handed.

RE: How does it feel, Apple?
By darkblade33 on 7/11/2010 10:22:38 PM , Rating: 1
The review of the iPhone at
would say otheriwse.

For many people who live in big cities ( like my wife who has ATT - I have Verizon ) .. we both have excellent reception.
I have a Droid, she has a iP4 .. honestly, for people who live in strong signal areas the antenna grab doesn't effect the signal enough to influence the call in any negative way.

The review at Anandtech does say if you squeeze the living thist out of it ( painful ) with sweaty fingers that you do get a 24db drop - but he also went on to say that he never had any phone able to make ( and not drop ) calls with a signal as low as he got in weaker areas .. Anand actually said he held onto calls in areas where his iPhone 3gs wouldnt.. that being said - there are people who buy the new iPhone that really shouldnt because reception in their area is not good on ATT. I just posted in another thread on here that in my old neighborhood Verizon was awful. It just depends on where you live. Choose your carrier according to where you need your reception most.. None of the carriers offer great reception every single place.

So even though I'll stick with my Droid, I honestly do feel most people who complain most about the iPhone are Droid fanboys & people who dont even own the iPhone..

I'm not a fanboy, I just use what I like. At one time I loved Sony ( had a PS2 ) and it didn't make me go buy a PS3 like alot of people. I got a XB360 and yeah I got the RROD after nearly 3yrs - so I qualified for the free fix - and now Ive had the same unit since late 2005 ..

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