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Apple's Steve Jobs

Google's Larry Page  (Source: Latest Technology News)
Larry Page tries to set the record straight with regards to Android

It's no secret that the relationship between Apple and Google is a bit rocky to say the least. While the two companies forged a partnership with the launch of the original iPhone (Google makes its presence known on the iPhone via Mobile Safari search, YouTube app, and Maps app), Steve Jobs over the past six months or so has been growing a bit resentful of Google's rise to power with its Android mobile operating system.

However, Google's Larry Page now contends that Jobs' anger is misplaced. While speaking at the Allen & Co conference this week in Silicon Valley, Page stated, "We had been working on Android a very long time, with the notion of producing phones that are Internet enabled and have good browsers and all that because that did not exist in the marketplace."

"I think that characterization of us entering after is not really reasonable."

Page then went on to say that Jobs' characterization of the events that took place leading up to Google's release of Android OS as "a little bit of rewriting history."

Earlier this year, Steve Jobs went on a rampage at an Apple Town hall stating that Google's "Don’t Be Evil Mantra Is Bulls**t" -- another source contends that Jobs said that "a load of crap" was the actual statement used, but you get the point.

Last month at the All Things D conference, Jobs again touched on the Google subject stating, "They decided to compete with us. We didn't go into the search business!" 

Despite the difference of opinion on Google' motives for Android, Google CEO (and former Apple board member) Eric Schmidt also weighed in stating that the two companies still have a strong partnership with the iPhone. And just this past March, Jobs and Schmidt were seen canoodling outside a cafe in Palo Alto, California.

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RE: How does it feel, Apple?
By akugami on 7/9/2010 8:36:05 PM , Rating: 0
I'll disagree with the iPhone 4 being a miss. Having held two iPhones (one for the wife, one for self) I can say the antennae issue did not affect us. And yes, I specifically tried to bridge the two sections of the antennae. Even heading to the faucet to wet my hands to attempt to better bridge the connections between the two antennae sections.

Now, I haven't had the iPhone 4 long. I actually switched over from T-Mobile (was using an old 2G iPhone someone gave me) but compared to a Nokia phone, the reception is pretty similar and we are able to place calls in the same places. I'm going to have to agree with Anand, of fame, that the iPhone 4's antennae issue is a bit overblown and while I don't doubt some are getting more dropped calls than they did with other phones or the iphone 3G/S, there are also people getting better reception.

Glass breaks. Even reinforced glass. Anyone who actually believed the iPhone 4 had indestructible glass is a moron.

RE: How does it feel, Apple?
By MonkeyPaw on 7/9/2010 9:59:21 PM , Rating: 5
Glass breaks. Even reinforced glass.

Exactly, which makes it a poor material for portable devices that have a high likelihood of being dropped. Every phone I've ever owned I've dropped at least once, and I'm highly coordinated. It just happens. Plastic or metal are nice materials here. Not glass that sticks out on both sides. Who in their right mind would normally put glass in their pocket?

Anyone who actually believed the iPhone 4 had indestructible glass is a moron.

I never said that, so I don't get the anger. BTW, I have an iPhone 3G (work phone), so I've used the product. I actually like a lot about the iPhone4 (speed and battery), just not the material choices. Also, sites like Anandtech have done a good writeup on reproducing the antenna issue. It appears that just a simple coating on the metal frame might eliminate the issue. Maybe Apple can fix it.

RE: How does it feel, Apple?
By Mitch101 on 7/10/2010 12:26:34 PM , Rating: 5
None of it matters every mistake Apple has made will soon be a distant memory. Google is right about Steve wanting to rewrite history.

Why? Because Apple has a Time Machine

Unfortunately Steve Jobs thinks his company created a real time machine. Part of me fears waking up tomorrow with a closet full of turtle neck sweaters feeling something is different. Boy would I like to be there when he attempts time travel so I can tell him hes holding it wrong. :)

RE: How does it feel, Apple?
By chrnochime on 7/9/2010 10:23:43 PM , Rating: 4
...and anyone who thinks his anecdotal evidence of two iphones not having the antenna problem really means a lot to anyone *but* him is...?

RE: How does it feel, Apple?
By akugami on 7/10/10, Rating: 0
RE: How does it feel, Apple?
By dark matter on 7/10/2010 6:00:47 AM , Rating: 2
Really, it's so easy to replicate it. You just bridge the gap with your finger on the bottom left of the phone.

If you're struggling, it's because you don't want to believe. that's all.

RE: How does it feel, Apple?
By sprockkets on 7/10/2010 11:34:09 AM , Rating: 1
Tried it, didn't work on the phone. Not that I would buy one, but just saying, it doesn't seem to affect me if I had one, and I'm left handed.

RE: How does it feel, Apple?
By darkblade33 on 7/11/2010 10:22:38 PM , Rating: 1
The review of the iPhone at
would say otheriwse.

For many people who live in big cities ( like my wife who has ATT - I have Verizon ) .. we both have excellent reception.
I have a Droid, she has a iP4 .. honestly, for people who live in strong signal areas the antenna grab doesn't effect the signal enough to influence the call in any negative way.

The review at Anandtech does say if you squeeze the living thist out of it ( painful ) with sweaty fingers that you do get a 24db drop - but he also went on to say that he never had any phone able to make ( and not drop ) calls with a signal as low as he got in weaker areas .. Anand actually said he held onto calls in areas where his iPhone 3gs wouldnt.. that being said - there are people who buy the new iPhone that really shouldnt because reception in their area is not good on ATT. I just posted in another thread on here that in my old neighborhood Verizon was awful. It just depends on where you live. Choose your carrier according to where you need your reception most.. None of the carriers offer great reception every single place.

So even though I'll stick with my Droid, I honestly do feel most people who complain most about the iPhone are Droid fanboys & people who dont even own the iPhone..

I'm not a fanboy, I just use what I like. At one time I loved Sony ( had a PS2 ) and it didn't make me go buy a PS3 like alot of people. I got a XB360 and yeah I got the RROD after nearly 3yrs - so I qualified for the free fix - and now Ive had the same unit since late 2005 ..

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