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Only approximately 1 percent of the world's population scores a 140 or higher on IQ tests.  (Source: Talking Rainbow)
Says lower IQ rates will help it deal with smaller U.S. talent pool

The U.S. has arguably been the most desirable place in the world to get a college education with international students from China, India, Japan, and others all traveling to the U.S. with that express purpose.  However, there's serious signs of trouble; U.S. citizens' college graduation rates are in danger of falling behind China.  Japanese enrollment is down as U.S. universities are slowly falling out of favor.  And at least one executive of an Indian firm complained that American graduates were "unemployable".

Adding to the list of awkward statistics is a recent announcement by Bleum Inc., a Chinese outsourcing company.  In China, with a deluge of available highly-intelligent graduates, Bleum Inc. requires that its workers score over 140 on an IQ test.

When it decided to recruit American computer science graduates, though, it decided that bar was way too high.  It dropped the requirement for the Americans down to 120, a move it says reflects a lower pool of talented college grads in the U.S.

Bleum says the move is meant as no affront to the U.S.  Its founder and CEO Eric Rongley is actually an American himself.  He says that in China his firm gets thousands of applications a week from eager college grads.  With about 1,000 employees, his firm hires less than 1 percent of those who apply.  He states, "It is much harder to get into Bleum than it is to Harvard."

Rongley has been targeting U.S. college grads in Atlanta, Chicago and Denver for positions.  After passing the lower IQ test, U.S. grads must next pass a skills test -- just like their Chinese peers.  The recruiting effort has already yielded its first five employees, who just embarked to Shanghai.  They will spend a year-long stint in China and then return to the U.S.

Dennis Garlick, a post-doctoral researcher at the University of California, Los Angeles, and author of an upcoming book called 
Intelligence and the Brain, says such tests are relatively commonplace, but are a mixed bag.  He states that the difficulty arises "because an IQ test measures abstract reasoning in a general context, and on-the-job performance requires abstract reasoning in a specific context."

But he adds, "[If a candidate scores high,] you can reasonably say that the person is likely to be able to understand typical abstract concepts as they are applied in business, understand instructions, follow them, and then generalize them in a new situation."

Is it a disappointing sign that there's less American grads that meet the IQ requirements (according to Bleum) than Chinese grads?  Or is that merely a sign that few U.S. grads are interested in applying a job overseas?  Either way, Bleum's openness about its hiring policies raises interesting questions about the U.S. and graduation, in a time when that issue remains a key concern.

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IQ Tests...
By nafhan on 7/8/2010 10:37:35 AM , Rating: 3
My opinion on IQ tests is that they will give you a good idea of how well you will do on IQ tests compared to other people, and that's about it.

RE: IQ Tests...
By bupkus on 7/8/2010 11:21:52 AM , Rating: 2
by definition you are absolutely correct.

The importance of your statement that I infer is that it offers little if no relevance as an indicator of whether you will succeed at life, job, happiness or personal fulfillment.

We are so much more than IQ alone and our needs go beyond any single metric that attempts to queue us up for an industrialized system of education and reward.

I refuse to serve a master.

RE: IQ Tests...
By bupkus on 7/8/2010 11:25:36 AM , Rating: 2
Hold on, guys...

Ok, honey... I was just getting to that.

Be right back... gotta throw out the garbage, clean the litter box, walk the dog, etc.

RE: IQ Tests...
By Azure Sky on 7/8/2010 1:02:11 PM , Rating: 2
Whats funny is that IQ tests can show somebody being very smart and yet the person can in reality be a dumbass in all the important ways.

I have a friend who admits that despite getting 147 on his last IQ test that hes a dumbass, he admits this because he honestly cant think for himself, he just follows directions well, he cant reason out a problem (can not think abstractly at all if its not liner hes stuck), hes a great guy, but even he admits that his IQ score means dick.

His brother who scores far lower at around 107 is VERY good at problem solving and abstract thinking, its quite odd....

I score quite high when I have taken some IQ tests and only OK on others, but I have been told many times that I am one of the best abstract thinkers when it comes to troubleshooting problems.

I think of it as a chaotic thinker, I dont follow a set procedure when troubleshooting, I "go with my gut" as it where, and enlarge I can track down the problems far faster then people who do it "by the book", I got kicked out of a college class once(computer repair related) because I made the instructor look like an idiot, he had 5 systems in front of the room all identical, intentionally damaged(messed up windows install) he said it would take at least 1hour to fix the systems, due to my experience and my not following the by the book diagnostic procedures I managed to fix the system in 17min, he got very angery and told me to leave....ofcorse I knew alot of tricks and shortcuts for my years as a computer geek/tech so it may not have been fair to him that I could skip like 95% of the crap he was expecting people to do to find and fix the problem :P

My point is, you cant go by IQ because some people test far better then others, and there are many types of IQ tests they can give you, my uncle does horribly on the written type IQ tests, but when they do hands on type tests he does amazingly well, convercely I know a few people like my father who can do amazing on writen tests but really are horrible on the hands on type tests(have poor spacial relationship awareness and problem solving skills)

RE: IQ Tests...
By JediJeb on 7/8/2010 5:07:55 PM , Rating: 3
Reminds me of when I had high school Advanced Math. My teacher thought I was cheating because on tests I had answers for problems like doing integrals with no scratch work. She even stood beside me during tests until she realized I was doing them in my head. She then asked me to write out all my answers and I began to mess them up. My problem was I could do the math in my head, but being slightly dyslexic I would mess things up when writing them down.

The PhD chemist here in the lab always gives me a funny look when I just look at an equation, stare off for a second then give him the answer before he can work it out on paper. He is brilliant, but he has to work every equation out at length on paper making sure to cancel all his units or he just can't get the right answer, while I shortcut the math in my head, throwing out all the 1/1 type things.

RE: IQ Tests...
By Azure Sky on 7/11/10, Rating: 0
RE: IQ Tests...
By Aloonatic on 7/8/2010 12:10:45 PM , Rating: 2
You're only saying that because you haven't got a high IQ.

Not like me, who has an IQ in the 130s. Well, at least according to the test that I took on MySpace, and had to give my e-mail and other personal details to to get the result.

Well worth it tho...

I am so smrt :-D

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