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Despite the best efforts of the RIAA, MPAA, and others, citizens are still downloading just as much stuff.  (Source: Audio Junkies)
"You hear that Mr. Anderson?... That is the sound of inevitability..."

In May, the US Copyright Group's "pay or else" suit over torrent downloads of the movie The Hurt Locker slammed over 5,000 individuals.  One might have expected that downloads of the movie might have dropped.

However, they have actually been going quite strong; the film was downloaded 200,000 times in June, with 23 percent of the downloads coming from the U.S.  Some observers believe that the movie's producers may actually be content with the illegal downloads.  Despite losing millions of copies in sales, its likely still logging IP addresses and will be able to recoup millions in threat payouts.  For that reason, the film's producers have made no effort to remove the film from popular torrent sites.

Elsewhere, torrent sites 
are clearly being targeted for takedown.  Following the escape to overseas hosting in 2005 in the wake of the LokiTorrent and EliteTorrents suits, torrent hosters have offered up open defiance to anything media watchdog groups like the MPAA and RIAA can throw at them.

However, torrent downloads are actually continuing to increase, with the efforts against them seemingly having little effect, either on the downloads or the sites that host them.

The Pirate Bay, perhaps the best known site, is still very much in action and, according to some sources, turning a small profit.  Threats, police raids, civil actions, ISP-ordered takedowns, and even sentencing the Swedish admins that ran the site to jail time ultimately has offered no relief to the media industry.  The site still is up and running complete with copyrighted material.

Similarly, market-leading Usenet indexer 
Newzbin – after its recent defeat in Netherlands court over free-speech regarding piracy – is right back in the gray.  After a brief takedown, the site has returned to the same URL, with dozens of movie listings being added daily.  The site's admins, who have invested over $40,000 USD in the site, even brazenly boasted about plans to profit off of it.

That kind of sentiment seen by 
The Pirate Bay and Newzbin increasingly seems the sentiment in the pirate community.  And the public seems to be becoming increasingly brazen in their piracy as well.

Frustrated media watchdog groups are generally turning to two solutions.  Either to craft mass threat schemes like 
The Hurt Locker's or spend money lobbying the government for harsher punishments.  Both solutions are problematic for the industry groups.  The problem with settlement schemes is that law firms demand a big cut (in The Hurt Locker case, reportedly 70 percent of the settlements).  And the legislative effort is no better as it risk mass public outrage, if efforts such as the jailing of filesharers or repeal of free speech about piracy are passed.



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RE: The best possible outcome for all...
By roadhog1974 on 7/6/2010 11:13:30 PM , Rating: 2
There are a few reasons as to why blu ray are more expensive than dvd.

There are typically three costs invloved,
one is the ability to produce a single Blu Ray disc
requires investment,
the second is the cost to produce the content on the disc,
the third is the cost to burn a disc.

Currently dvds sell a lot more and have sold a lot more
over their history so the cost 1 has been largely paid
off this is not the case for blu ray so the cost per disc
is higher.

for the second often there is more content on the blu ray
or the content has had to have been remasterd say for 7.1
sound as opposed to 5.1 sound, again that cost must
be distributed over fewer discs.

third a blu ray disc is more expensive full stop.

I would expect all those extra costs to tend to zero
as blu ray becomes the default.

From the non cost reason Blu ray has a reputation for
better quality so it can charge more, even if it is
exactly the same.

So blu ray discs might always be more expensive on average,
but in a couple of years you will start to see some discs
where the DVD and Blu ray cost the same, or about $1-2
different rather than the $10 now.

Currently DVD's cost me between 1/2 and 1/4 quarter what
they used to cost i would expect the same to happen
to blu ray's.

regards


By The Raven on 7/8/2010 10:24:18 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah I hear you. But what I was saying is that there is no reduction in price for...
quote:
the second is the cost to produce the content on the disc


Yes it costs money to remaster a film or upgrade the technology (a la THX specs, etc.) but does it cost just as much as it does to produce the film itself? Hell no. It is a fraction of the cost. I called George Lucas out specifically because of (for example) his refusal to release the trilogy in anamorphic WS. The tech was there, he knew about it. But he knew that he would be able to rape the millions of die hards that up and bought every release thinking that it was the best way to see their favorite film. Well I bought it (eventhough he bastardized it with Haden Christensen's Ghost, etc.) not caring that it was not the greatest quality, as the story of Star Wars is not just a bunch of flash IMO. I just wanted a digital copy of the movies that I could rip and take wherever I wanted.

The other people I have it out for are those Disney people and their damn vault!

But I digress. If the studios gave us the opportunity to trade in the copies of the films that we had previously bought and then only charged us for the manufacturing costs that you mentioned, then upgrading wouldn't be so bad.

And I disagree with your premise about a Bluray price drop anymore than it has already. The cost to produce them is miniscule and what you pay for at the store is mostly for the IP and/or inventory because of the big box they come in.

I mean how do you thenk AOL gave all those CDs out for free? They cost practically nothing to produce.

Besides, those money grubbers at the MPAA will always charge what they can get away with and not the fair market value.


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