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Hopes to increase use of green technology and create jobs

In addition to the recent $20 million the government gave to support the development of offshore wind energy, the Obama Administration is making another hefty donation to support additional efforts in renewable energy, but this time, it's for solar power. President Barack Obama is giving $1.85 billion to two solar companies in order to build new solar plants throughout the United States.

Obama's plan behind this new financial commitment is to create different avenues of renewable energy use and to also create new jobs for American citizens. His announcement regarding the donation for this project was presented in his weekly online and radio address on Saturday, which was one day after the U.S. Department of Labor revealed that employers, for the first time in six months, cut payrolls once again due to the possible end of 225,000 temporary census jobs.

The two solar companies that Obama has chosen to present the money to are Abengoa Solar and Abound Solar Manufacturing. Abengoa Solar plans to build one of the world's largest solar plants near Gila Bend, Arizona while Abound Solar Manufacturing will build plants in Indiana and Colorado. Together, these plants will create more than 2,000 construction jobs and 1,500 permanent jobs.

"We're going to keep competing aggressively to make sure the jobs and industries of the future are taking root right here in America," said Obama.

Out of the total $1.85 billion, $1.45 billion will go to Abengoa Solar, since it's Arizona solar plant will create 1,600 jobs alone and will be able to power approximately 70,000 homes. The other $400 million will go to Abound Solar Manufacturing. 

"Already, I've seen the payoff from these investments," said Obama. "I've seen once-shuttered factories humming with new workers who are building solar panels and wind turbines; rolling up their sleeves to help America win the race for the clean energy economy."

The U.S. Department of Energy announced some clean energy news as well. The Weatherization Assistance Program, which insulates and protects homes and buildings with energy efficient improvements, has already helped perform weatherization work on more than 30 percent of homes in 12 states. This totals to approximately 108,000 homes and is saving more than $47 million on energy bills. The program has also created 10,000 jobs. 

In addition, the U.S. Department of Energy has approved another $76 million for energy efficient building equipment and technology as well as new training programs for commercial building operators, technicians and auditors.

Obama holds high hopes for these new programs and developments, hoping they'll boost the economy, and saying that "the administration is accelerating the transition to a clean energy economy and doubling our use of renewable energy sources such as wind and solar power -- steps that have the potential to create whole new industries and hundreds of thousands of new jobs in America."

The construction of these new solar plants are the latest efforts toward cleaner energy and employment under the U.S. Recovery Act



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RE: Instead of...
By LordSojar on 7/5/2010 11:08:15 AM , Rating: -1
Our electrical infrastructure hasn't been updated since the 1950s in many many areas. There is no excuse. You can rate me down all day, but I don't see American companies creating jobs on their own, they just keep shipping work to China. You praise big business, but those businesses are only big do to their ties to cheap east Asian labor.

Quite simply, if you think a pure capitalist society works, you're a fool. Greed would argue with you, and it puts up an ironclad argument. Human greed foils any attempt at a truly free market. If American businesses cannot create jobs because all they care about is their bottom line, who will do it?


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By LordSojar on 7/5/2010 11:09:24 AM , Rating: 2
*due to their ties*

Apparently I took a "FAIL@ENGLISH" pill this morning... shame on me.


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By Kurz on 7/5/2010 11:33:12 AM , Rating: 2
We haven't had a true Capitalist Economy in years!!!
Our currency hasn't held its value since Nixon era.
Capitalism is about saving, buying capital to reinvest that capital to gain more capital.

Those are the basics. The Whole greed issue is nonsense.
Progressives for years have destroyed the economy by taxing, subsidizing, regulating the hell out of the private industry.

The electrical infrastructure hasn't been updated because those writing the regulations don't want it to be. They make it impossible to lay down new lines.

The only reason why we don't have companies creating jobs is because the taxes are too high in this country, (At least for Corporations).


RE: Instead of...
By LordSojar on 7/5/2010 11:52:31 AM , Rating: 2
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The only reason why we don't have companies creating jobs is because the taxes are too high in this country


Why is Germany doing better than we are, if that's indeed the case. I don't see the big German businesses shipping all their labor to China... if anything, a lot of them also have plants here in the US. Why is it that with their higher tax rates, they are doing better than US companies ? Oh, that's right, because the United States government is one of the most corrupt, backwards entities ever to grace the modern world. They don't know how to spend money correctly, and when they do start to do it, the pundits and lobbyists scream bloody murder, or wait... it's something more like this:

"SOCIALIST!" "MAOIST!" "COMMUNIST!"


Most Americans are so uneducated and backwards, they don't even know what those terms mean. Our country is filled with under educated fools who listen to the mainstream media (on both sides), and are either too lazy to think for themselves or far too uneducated to do so. The truth hurts.


RE: Instead of...
By Kurz on 7/5/2010 12:12:30 PM , Rating: 3
>.> Where in my post did I advocate the US Government?
I hate our government with a passion.
I want a smaller government... without a Central Bank running it to the ground.

German Businesses are given incentives to stay.
They are giving tax brakes... That is the only reason they remain in Germany. If you are talking about BMW making plants... they only make them in the USA because we give them Tax brakes and subsidies.

Germany is the only country in the EU that isn't a leach to the rest of the EU. Countries in the EU are losing their credit rating left and right. Recent examples Greece and Spain.


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By Hare on 7/5/10, Rating: 0
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By LordSooooStupid on 7/5/2010 2:36:26 PM , Rating: 1
You sir, are an idiot. People just like you are the ones dragging the US and other country's down. Always wanting entitlements and higher taxes for all, for "the common good".
You do realize, you can always pay MORE on your income tax, right? Why don't you put up or shut up?
Talk about uneducated; pot, kettle, black.


RE: Instead of...
By LordSojar on 7/5/10, Rating: -1
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By LordSooooStupid on 7/5/2010 3:24:50 PM , Rating: 1
"Call me what you want, but I know I am far from an idiot."

I have no issue calling you what you are: hypocrite.
Far from an idiot? Says you, LordPot. GO TEAM!
Show us the money trail where you are self imposing a 50% or better tax on yourself. Oh, that's right, you didn't mean for you but from everyone else. GO TEAM LordHypocrite!
Making yourself (read: stroking your epenis) fell good by saying you have "empathy". You truly are an asshat of ginormous proportions. Take you "empathy" and place it next to your swelling, liberal, self stroked ego. Prick indeed! Touche!


RE: Instead of...
By Kurz on 7/5/2010 4:13:54 PM , Rating: 3
You speak of greed of corporations...
You never speak of greed of the Government.

The only reason greed exists, is because the current system doesn't allow greed to fail. The problem is systematic not regulatory. No matter how good your ideas the individuals in humanity care first for themselves, family, then others.

The rights are not those. We are protected for life, liberty and property, We were given those rights by our founders. What we do with them is our decision.

Health care and education are entitlements the government has decided to offer to the citizenry. When you are forced to give up your liberty and property for the "common good" no one in their right mind is going to like that. Since the people who have worked hard for their property only to see it go towards wasteful projects and not towards what they were intended to do.

There is no apathy in his words... he is just pissed the government dictates everything when the people and the states have the say.

Learn Economics prick before you go mouthing off about how you are entitled to everything you deemed "necessary" to society.


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By hyvonen on 7/5/10, Rating: 0
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By Kurz on 7/5/2010 9:18:28 PM , Rating: 2
Health care system is completely about special interests of Hospitals and Health Insurance companies telling our congressman how to pass laws in their favor. Health Insurance is tied to Employers, if the Health Insurance was payed and chosen by individuals you wouldn't have the issues we are having today.

Their cost-effective manner still leads to deficits in their federal government.

Universities are just following the price/demand curve.
X amount of students can attend school what universities can provide is limited on the short term. What Federal and State governments do is offer lower than cost loans to students.
It sounds great on paper, but the effect leads to higher prices since loans allow more people to afford it. Then it just piles on over the years with governments offering even lower priced loans for students. We are having another bubble being created by the government intervention.


RE: Instead of...
By The Raven on 7/6/2010 11:33:04 AM , Rating: 2
Spot on buddy. You must be listening to someone like Peter Schiff. (But I'm sure you will surely be labeled as a Glen Beck listener lol).

Also, you are correct that healthcare is not a right. If it was, then we should be able to smoke, drink, and TAN without consequence. But by adding that damn tan tax in the healthcare overhaul (coupled with other existing 'sin taxes') Pres. Obama and co. are admitting that health care is not a right. They are just trying to give the majority of people the benefit so they will vote for them and send the healthcare companies more customers, regardless if it is 'right' to redistribute wealth in this manner.


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By Kurz on 7/7/2010 11:41:16 AM , Rating: 2
Actually "Thomas Sowell's Basic Economics Third Edition"

In the end Health care is getting further away from a free market ideal. Forcing people to buy healthcare when they aren't financially capable of paying for it or find that paying for it is finacially not worth it.

Costs will go up, government deficits will go up. And more people will be proclaiming that its all 'Greedy' corporation's fault. With none of the blame pointed at the government and their progressive policies. We are heading to a big upset, and I suggest everyone be prepared to be self-sufficant in the coming years and do what you can to get out of debt and actually own your property.


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By NA1NSXR on 7/6/2010 4:47:55 AM , Rating: 2
Dude, do you not see you just basically spelled out the formula that has led to massive death and suffering throughout Europe and Asia in the 20th century????


RE: Instead of...
By JediJeb on 7/6/2010 3:00:49 PM , Rating: 1
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Healthcare and education aren't entitlements, they are rights. You have a natural right to live your life free of pain and suffering, and to learn to make intelligent decisions for yourself.


Show me one example in nature that shows that living beings have the right to be free of pain and suffering! I don't see Seals giving free pain killers to Whales, or Lions performing free knee replacements on Elephants. Any time that you take money from one individual and give it to another to provide a service that amounts to an entitlement not a right, because to take the money from the first party to give to the second denies the first party their right to their money. By your definition I should be required to work in order to provide someone else with a benefit.

If I wish to provide help to another person through my own charity then that is my own decision. The people of this world were much more charitable and of a communal mind before large centralized governments decided to force people to be that way. I challenge you to do a study of all past governments and societies. You will find in the past that every single one that has moved from a community centered government structure to a large centralized government structure has utterly failed and disappeared. From the Ancient Egyptians to the Persians, Romans, Ancient Greeks, to the Mongols united under the Kahns, over to the Colonial periods of the British, French, Spanish, Danish and Portuguese and on to the Soviets, all grew to a point that they became too big to sustain themselves and were either brought down by corruption within or smaller, more efficient groups from the outside. How is it that a loose knit band of Galls, was able to defeat the mighty Roman Empire? Why is much of the world no longer ruled by the Persian Empire as it once was?

Small, agile governments that operate at a local level can much better provide what is needed to it's citizens than the large central governments could ever hope to do. The large central government should exist to provide defense to the whole and arbitrate among the local governments, but not to take the place of the local governments. If you read the US Constitution you will see this is what the Founding Fathers of this country knew and believed. Read any of their writings and you will see they stressed self reliance, that the individuals are responsible for their own success or failure, not the government. Also that people(and corporations) who make poor decisions should be allowed to fail. And by the way, you can learn to make informed decisions without being given a free college education.

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Any person that works and tries to better society should have access to those basic rights. I don't think that a freeloader should, as they aren't contributing to society, but any man or woman who puts in an honest days work that furthers society in any way should be "entitled" to free/extremely affordable healthcare and education, and should be able to live in an environment free of oppression, famine, and plague. Get some humanity, prick.


Take away the heavy taxes needed to provide those services and the person who works hard to contribute to society will be able to pay for those services out of their own pocket. Doctors and hospitals that aren't taxed and inundated with burdensome and useless regulations and paperwork can operate with much less expense and therefore offer less expensive services. As for education, I worked my way through college and I have a healthy respect for both my education and what it has provided me. I know those who had free to almost free rides through college who have no respect for what they had given to them and little respect for the things they have now. What is needed for a better society is not so much education, but wisdom, and you can not teach wisdom from a book. Wisdom is learned through each individuals success and failure in life.

Also anyone who believes that the world is entitled to be free of famine and plague must be dreaming. You say that everyone should have such "rights", so let's see how that would work. HIV is probably one of the worst plagues to come upon this world in modern times. The one way to solve the problem of HIV would be to restrict the sexual activities of everyone on the planet. That alone could end this plague in a couple generations. Yet to provide the "right" of freedom from HIV you would have to take away another right of free choice from the world. Who gets to make the decision of which "right" is the more important? Of course you will say the "right" of freedom from HIV should come from pouring huge amounts of money into research into finding a cure for HIV, but what if that cure can never be found? Is it proper to deny people their "right" the the money they earn to attempt to fulfill a "right" of freedom from HIV to those who have it?

Don't get me wrong, I believe HIV is a horrible thing and we should work to cure it if possible. I just grabbed it as a good example to use, I could have used many others.

My point is we have the "rights" to make our own choices in life, for good or bad, but not "rights" to an easy life no matter what our choices may be. Self Reliance is what should drive us, with a mind towards promoting the common good through a charitable lifestyle. Forced charity is not really charity at all, just as forced obedience is not really obedience but more like slavery or indentured servitude depending on what the reward for the obedience is.


RE: Instead of...
By Solandri on 7/5/2010 4:14:54 PM , Rating: 2
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Why is Germany doing better than we are, if that's indeed the case. I don't see the big German businesses shipping all their labor to China... if anything, a lot of them also have plants here in the US. Why is it that with their higher tax rates, they are doing better than US companies ?

Germany avoided the housing bubble. Back when housing prices in several European countries had inflated even more than they had in the U.S, Germany's housing prices remained flat. When the housing bubble popped, Germany's economy was one of the few which wasn't directly affected. Indirect effects (they do a lot more foreign trade than the U.S.) however did drive Germany's unemployment rate significantly higher than in the U.S. around the beginning and midpoint of the recession. Since then, Germany has recovered more quickly, again, primarily due to it never having suffered the fundamental cause of the bubble - overinflated housing prices.

China is "stealing" from the rest of the world and its citizens by artificially maintaining its currency at a lower exchange rate. This results in more economic activity being shifted into China, but less compensation for Chinese workers. They're doing this as a strategy to quickly build up an industrial base, paid for by foreign money, and built on the backs of its citizens. Part of the U.S. response to combat this (lowering interest rates to near zero to help drop the USD's value, forcing China to reindex the Yuan at a higher rate) also ended up feeding the housing bubble in the U.S.

There's a lot more going on than "Country A is doing well so it must be doing things right. Country B is not doing so well so it must be doing things wrong."


RE: Instead of...
By FITCamaro on 7/5/2010 8:41:35 PM , Rating: 1
What's this? A clue?


RE: Instead of...
By andrinoaa on 7/6/2010 5:24:26 AM , Rating: 2
You are waisting your breath replying to these inbreds, Lordsojar. I tried a while back to put a mirror in front of these guys, but they couldn't see wood from the trees. They are only teenagers with no worldly experience.This site is turning into a moronic, back slapping wank fest for ingorant people. Assertions are proclaimed as fact( ie there is no global warming, there is a left wing global agenda, no taxes are good for you etc etc etc). In the last year I have been tuning in, I have noticed a trend that proclaims that nothing new is any good. Every new insight or development is canned. So why are these stoogges on a tech site? Which beggs the question, Why is America so fucked? The replies to your insights just beggar belief. You can understand why the chinese are running rings around this mob.


RE: Instead of...
By Quadrillity on 7/7/2010 8:27:37 AM , Rating: 2
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You are waisting your breath replying to these inbreds

"When you run out of logic, start insulting people! It makes you look like you have won!"
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( ie there is no global warming, there is a left wing global agenda, no taxes are good for you etc etc etc)

Global warming is an alarmist propaganda machine built to line pockets. Yes, there IS a left wing global agenda (because it is ABSOLUTE FACT that ALL liberals believe that they know whats better for your life than you do). And last but not least, please point out who it was that said taxes are not essential to society? See, what you are doing here is putting words into people mouths and then calling everyone an idiot for it. You sir, are the blathering idiot.
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I have noticed a trend that proclaims that nothing new is any good. Every new insight or development is canned. So why are these stoogges on a tech site?

No, I think you are just taking some kind of illegal substance and dreaming all of this up. If you don't have anything constructive to say then stfu. You and your kind ruin civilized debates when you come in huffing and puffing, throwing chairs, and turning blue in the face.


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