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Tesla Roadster 2.5  (Source: Tesla Motors)
Extended production sales leads to the electric sports car's makeover

The Tesla Roadster is receiving its fourth major production update with the new Roadster 2.5, a revised version of the electric sports car with a new grille and rear bumper.

The 2011 Tesla Roadster 2.5 received an updated grille that resembles the design of the Model S as well as a new rear bumper with a diffuser element. Other cosmetic changes include more comfortable seats, improved surface finishes and an optional seven inch touchscreen display that includes a backup camera. So far, there are no powertrain changes to the vehicle.

Earlier this year, Tesla planned to stop production of the Roadster and announced in a Form S-1 filing of its preliminary prospectus with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission that the company would replace the Roadster with a new model that would be introduced in 2013 at the very soonest. 

But in March of this year, the auto company said they negotiated further with key suppliers and felt they could increase the Roadster's production by 40 percent, extending sales into 2012. Undoubtedly, Tesla's recent success with their initial public offering, which helped the automaker earn over US $226 million from share purchases, has put the company in a better financial place and is helping them stay on track with the 2012 goal. 

Originally, the shares were expected to sell for $14-$16 a piece, but ended up selling for $17. In addition, there was an increase in the number of shares sold. Tesla planned to release 11.1 million shares, but released 13.3 million shares instead, and at a higher cost, which makes this a triumphant success for the auto company. Though, only 17 percent of shares have been sold to the public.

Tesla stocks are now over $21.50 a share, and Tesla is valued at US $1.33 billion. With the IPO's help in bringing Tesla out of a financial crisis, the company's production plan consists of releasing the Roadster 2.5 in 2011 and the Model S in 2012. In addition, the automaker has opened two new Tesla stores in Newport Beach, California and Copenhagen, Denmark. 

No prices on the Roadster 2.5 have been released yet, but the vehicle is available for order and will appear in Tesla stores everywhere "soon."








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eye candy for people with too much money
By muhahaaha on 7/2/2010 4:35:02 PM , Rating: 1
Other than the overpaid executives that ruined the American auto industry to begin with, who can really afford to buy this car?

Yes, it's a cool car in concept, but it value/$ is not there.

"Hi boss, I forgot to plug in my car last night, so I won't make it to the office today".

Electric cars are at least a decade away from truly being useful.




RE: eye candy for people with too much money
By jlips6 on 7/2/2010 5:37:48 PM , Rating: 3
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Hi boss, I forgot to plug in my car last night, so I won't make it to the office today

I have two problems with this. First of all, with more than a 200 mile range, you aren't going to have this problem unless your work is 100 miles away.

Second, what are you going to tell your boss If you say: "Oh, I was out driving around for a couple hundred miles and I forgot to fill up my tank, sorry!"

This sounds equally stupid for a non-electric car.
You're right in that electric technology isn't really useful for everyday vehicles today. But for a luxury product, They makes perfect sense. The Roadster is for people with too much money, but in that field, it is an excellent vehicle.


RE: eye candy for people with too much money
By muhahaaha on 7/2/2010 5:53:08 PM , Rating: 1
Living in Arizona, and with the heat here (110 degrees right now), I'd probably be lucky to get to work and back (60 miles round trip) on a full charge. These cars don't even come close to their expected range in less than ideal environments.

Add in factors such as additional passengers and added weight from stuff in the trunk, and forget it.

You basically have a 100K toy to cruise around the hood to show how cool you are, not a functional every-day car.


By nmrahde on 7/2/2010 6:18:13 PM , Rating: 2
I'd like to see decrease in battery charge times myself.

If I forget to get gas on the way home from work, I usually have time in the morning to fill up.

I think the roadster has a 3-4 hour charge time currently.


RE: eye candy for people with too much money
By muhahaaha on 7/2/2010 6:19:06 PM , Rating: 3
Not to mention, the battery technology of today is not that great, and due to the problem with only a limited number od charge cycles, and the consequences of charging the battery before it's fully drained (which is going to need to be done frequently if you want enough range to go anywhere) will kill the battery capacity in no time.

Then your going to be out 10K for new battery packs.

At least the prius is hybrid so if your electrical goes bad, you can still drive around with gas.

Electric cars == dumbest idea ever.

Maybe someday when we have better battery or fuel cell tech, or Mr. Fusion. But absolutely not today.


RE: eye candy for people with too much money
By Klinky1984 on 7/2/2010 9:55:45 PM , Rating: 3
"...and the consequences of charging the battery before it's fully drained (which is going to need to be done frequently if you want enough range to go anywhere) will kill the battery capacity in no time."

What are you talking about? The NiMH batteries in the Roadster do not have memory effect nor does Lion or Lipo tech.


RE: eye candy for people with too much money
By muhahaaha on 7/3/2010 7:45:03 AM , Rating: 2
You are correct in theory, but having used NiMH batteries personally in my home electronics for years, it is unfortunately a fact that they end up failing after maybe 100-200 charge cycles. I have piles of NiMH batteries that I should throw in the trash because I put them in my charger and get a red blinking LED telling me they are douched, but I keep thinking that maybe there is a way to restore them.


By shin0bi272 on 7/3/2010 9:49:32 AM , Rating: 2
They make great slingshot ammo... Reduce, Reuse, Recycle :)


RE: eye candy for people with too much money
By MGSsancho on 7/2/2010 6:25:10 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
You basically have a 100K toy to cruise around the hood to show how cool you are, not a functional every-day car.
That is exactly what it is. Tesla never promised it was a commuter car.


RE: eye candy for people with too much money
By muhahaaha on 7/3/2010 8:49:36 AM , Rating: 2
It's nice that someone agrees with the facts.

This site is getting overrun with brainwashed, PR kool-aid drinking tards.

Do your own research if you doubt me.

What do you think that 50 thousand electric cars are going to do to the electric grid?

Oh, and did you know that most of our electricity is produced by burning fossil fuels?

So explain to me how electric cars are green.

And now I'm going to have to worry about my neighbor sneaking an extension cord onto my outside outlets and "filling up" for free.


RE: eye candy for people with too much money
By muhahaaha on 7/3/2010 9:09:34 AM , Rating: 2
Seriously, do you understand the implications of electric cars?

Now, each of us are effectively potential gas station.

There will be a new kind of theft coming to you soon.

I'm going to have to padlock the outlets on my front porch which I use for my Xmas tree lights or my boom box.

This is not going to push green energy in any way.


By timmiser on 7/4/2010 4:37:15 PM , Rating: 2
Really? Can you imagine? Your neighbor sneaking over with his orange extension cord and plugging into your outside outlet and then come back 4 hours later to unplug? While he's over on your property, he can go ahead and hook up his garden hose to water his lawn and then splice into your cable TV and internet at the same time. Yep, this whole electric car thing is just what it will take to make your pesty neighbors go wild. Next up: Drive by pluggers!


By shin0bi272 on 7/3/2010 9:44:41 AM , Rating: 2
all the more reason for solar panel subsidies! </sarcasm>


RE: eye candy for people with too much money
By Pudro on 7/2/2010 6:35:03 PM , Rating: 2
The batteries are climate controlled, so while that may lower your mileage, it won't be to the ridiculous extent to which you claim.


By muhahaaha on 7/3/2010 7:47:12 AM , Rating: 2
PR Nonsense


RE: eye candy for people with too much money
By shin0bi272 on 7/3/2010 9:42:29 AM , Rating: 2
I guess you didnt see when top gear tested the tesla on their track did you? They do 3 laps and take the time of the best lap and this POS electric car couldnt get around their 1mi track 3 times before it died.

The 100 mile range is if you are on cruise control driving from point a to point b with no stops in between. If you accelerate too quickly or drive fast you will get much less range out of it.


RE: eye candy for people with too much money
By mellomonk on 7/3/2010 3:16:36 PM , Rating: 2
Everybody loves Top Gear, but it is well known in the car enthusiast community that they 'took creative license' when it came to the Tesla test.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/dec/24/jeremy...

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2008/12/top-gear-fudg...

http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/30/was-top...

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/12/19/tesla-responds-...

You should take everything on Top Gear with a grain of salt. Very entertaining, but not always that accurate. There are plenty of non-entertainment based reviews of the Tesla out there.
Range, as with mileage in conventionally powered vehicles varies with conditions. The average American daily commute is sixteen miles. Electrics can suffice for a good percentage of commuters, but it seems that the only people who post about range are folks who's needs will not be met.
Personally, even a 5o mile range would allow me to commute to work for a week on a single charge. And like a good deal of folks I own more the one car. I would love an affordable electric vehicle like the Nissan Leaf to do my daily commuting and shopping in.


By shin0bi272 on 7/3/2010 9:26:56 PM , Rating: 2
Ahh little trickery with the editing I see. But still holds true that if you drive the thing flat out you can only go 55 miles... of course that's 55 miles at what 120mph so you get half an hour of driving at full speed? I know that car mileage varies no matter what the fuel is with higher speed driving but to get the mileage cut to what 25% of the advertised mileage is a huge problem. There are places near me where the speed limit is 70 and everyone does 85... I'd be run over if I went 55.

If the tesla people could figure out a way to only use power when accelerating or came up with an alternative way to charge the batteries while in motion (like a generator on the wheels maybe) then the range would be drastically extended and they might be worth a shot. You know? something like the car's alternator so your batteries dont die every time you run the car for a couple of hours.

Then you have infrastructure problems with electric cars too. Because you have to install 480v (I forget the amperage but Im gonna say 50A)cables at gas stations everywhere and then youve got to let people sit at the place for an hour or so to let the thing charge... turning every gas station in the world into a truck stop. Not totally horrible but sort of impractical to renovate/upgrade every gas station for 5 bucks worth of power each person. That is till they jack the price of electricity up to $20/kw (mine's currently 8cents/kwh)

I say that there will be infrastructure problems because not everyone just drives to work and back ... some people drive to their girlfriends house (mine's 3hrs away currently... dont ask), others take vacations to the beach or some famous landmark, or even grandma's house, and even at 200mi range you're gonna need stopping points along the roadside for juice.

Then there's the draw on the already over taxed grid that millions of cars jacking into the system will create... can you say nationwide blackouts? you arent gonna fix that kind of power drain with a solar panel or wind farm.

Point is there are unintended consequences to electric vehicles and until there's a way to charge them at home (with a normal 120v 13A wall outlet) in under 5 minutes and get 200-300mile range from that the will be an catastrophe waiting to happen.

Think about the ethanol problem. They made ethanol from corn and it was less polluting gallon per gallon... unexpected problems arose though. 1) you used 30% more ethanol than you did gasoline so it was no longer as fuel efficient and 2) was no longer less polluting. Then theres the real unintended consequence of 3) the price of food went sky high. In mexico there were food riots because the price of tortillas went up 400% in a year. Here the price of beef and milk went up I think it was 37% in a year.

Here is another example of how our capitalist society really saved us from a huge price spike...but I bet no one is reading down this far so I wont bother talking about that anymore.


By Reclaimer77 on 7/3/2010 6:46:23 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
But for a luxury product, They makes perfect sense.


Exactly. LUXURY! Why is the government taking our money and helping people buy fucking luxury items??


By shin0bi272 on 7/3/2010 9:32:28 PM , Rating: 2
cause its "green". No matter what the cost or luxuriation of an item if its a green technology the government will help you buy it. Cause there aint no economic steering like government economic steering cause government economic steering dont stop... to co-opt a popular colloquialism from the hip-hop community.


By ender21 on 7/6/2010 10:59:22 AM , Rating: 2
Have you heard of all the subsidies being given to vehicles that weigh over a certain weight, if they're classified as "company vehicles"?

Many people were taking their 8MPG H2s and getting upwards of $15k in "government subsidies" for the purchase. Look THAT one up. I don't know if the program is still available, though.

So two scenarios: Taking a dated technology that superfluously creates more waste, and subsidizing it. Versus what? Tesla streamlining efficiencies that ultimately create less waste, and subsidizing THAT? Which in turn drives economies of scale which will ultimately drive down costs. Hmm, I'll take the latter every day of the week, even if I can't afford the tech.... yet.

Of course choice #3: Subsidize *neither*, is also attractive, but somehow I doubt I'll get my $5 per year in taxes that this cost me back.*

*Note: Estimate of taxes was just an gross assumption intended to make a point. Not an actual estimate.


By shin0bi272 on 7/3/2010 10:04:39 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Electric cars are at least a decade away from truly being useful.


That's what they've been saying for 100 years now.

Electric cars are the next big thing ... and they always will be.


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