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Hyundai Veloster Concept

Prototype Veloster testing alongside a VW Scirocco  (Source: Motor Authority)
Hyundai is taking on the big guns from Japan

Reaction to Honda's CR-Z two-seater has been mixed. While the vehicle attempts to capture some of the essence of the CRX which came two decades before it, its performance (0 to 60 mph in around 10 seconds) and fuel economy aren't exactly inspiring given its hybrid powertrain.

The CR-Z only manages to achieve 31/37 mpg (city/highway) with a manual transmission and 36/38 mpg with a CVT transmission -- both figures are well below that of the larger and heavier Toyota Prius.

Hyundai, which is doing its best to punch Toyota and Honda (among others) right in the throat, is now said to be setting its targets on the CR-Z. According to Autoblog, the upcoming Hyundai Veloster -- the replacement for the Hyundai Tiburon -- will achieve 40 mpg by using a regular four-cylinder engine. This shouldn't be too hard a target for Hyundai to reach considering that its 3,200-pound Sonata midsize sedan can already hit 35 mpg on the highway.

While the CR-Z needs a hybrid powertrain to extract somewhat disappointing fuel economy numbers given its 2,750-pound weight, Hyundai says that it needs no such excess baggage. The lighter Veloster is said to be powered by a 1.6-liter engine producing around 140 hp. For comparison, Honda's CR-Z is powered by a 122 hp four-cylinder engine coupled with a 13 hp electric motor.

And if toppling the CR-Z in fuel economy and performance wasn't enough, Hyundai will likely also undercut the pricing of the CR-Z as well due to the Veloster's lack of an expensive hybrid powertrain and batteries. The Veloster also comes with the added utility of seating for four people instead of only two like the CR-Z



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RE: Higher Goals Needed
By SSDMaster on 6/22/2010 9:10:11 AM , Rating: 2
If I put my car in fourth gear and stick at 40 MPH I can get over 40 MPG with my Mitsubishi Lancer. So what?

These numbers are meaningless. We need real world numbers at real world speeds. 70MPH for ex.


RE: Higher Goals Needed
By transamdude95 on 6/22/2010 9:55:44 AM , Rating: 2
See above. The speed limit where I used to live was no higher than 55mph. Where I live now, it's 70mph and I typically go 5mph over. I still get 38mpg much of the time. Sometimes higher, sometimes lower, depending on conditions. These numbers are per tank, too, and not instantaneous measurement (like some new cars provide).

I don't see your point.


RE: Higher Goals Needed
By callmeroy on 6/22/2010 10:59:19 AM , Rating: 1
Agreed...and I love this articles whenever a new car is released claiming extreme MPG stats....like you said are they REAL WORLD numbers though?

Go to ANY dealership in the world -- you are a fool if you believe the EPA ratings posted on the vast majority (if not all) new cars are what you will actual attain after driving it.

That said 40 MPG at this point in time isn't that impressive to get all excited about...

Hell my new car isn't even designed to be super efficient has over 300 HP and even *city* driving I get slightly better than half of that 40 MPG and I'm talking real numbers , not "paper numbers"...and its a damn spot faster than this ugly thing is too.

So again 40 MPG...big deal.


RE: Higher Goals Needed
By AoWARHEADoF on 6/22/2010 11:35:39 AM , Rating: 3
You know..... my 1979.. ehh em.. MY 1979 EL CAMINO gets 24 MPG. This data was recorded by a GPS device and calculator with the capacity of my tank and miles traveled. Also (wait it gets better) i had roughly 400 pounds of camping gear in the bed and 2 extra people. I know thats nowhere near the numbers everyone else is posting but (wait it still gets better) its a carbeurated 383 stroker. Now without the extra 400 pounds of gear and 350 pounds worth of extra people it got 29 MPG. IT STILL GETS BETTER! I have 5x the horsepower of all these cars.

The only catch is, i have to drive it like a grandma to get these numbers but, if i have to pass ur asses on the freeway, the 415 Horses are going to gallop by you very quickly.

And i also agree that 40 MPG is rediculous and it all does come down to weight. If you put these tiny super efficient engines in these cars now days that are bloated like an hp laptop with all this extra crap that is franky unecessary. Weighing down the vehicle and negating the efficiency of the engine all together.

Funny story, i got yelled at by a hippie in a prius (which are crap and terrible to drive BTW!) while stopping for gas at a atation is San Fran. "Don't you know your car is a strain on the environment?" he shuddered. I looked at him sideways for a second and kindly showed him the data i presented to you folks on this fine day. Also i informed him that the pollution involved in the production of a prius (particularly the battery pack) will never be gained back by the "efficiency" of a prius. Especially once you have to replace the pack and thus restarting the entire process. So i'll stick with my "gas guzzling" El Camino, and its actually fun to drive.


RE: Higher Goals Needed
By mindless1 on 6/22/2010 12:52:04 PM , Rating: 4
I would've just punched him in the face.


RE: Higher Goals Needed
By AoWARHEADoF on 6/22/2010 1:06:41 PM , Rating: 2
yeah i wasnt really nice about his snide remark, i actually got loud and called him some certain things that i have no bad feelings about calling him. HEH! but i still "informed" him of his lame cars problems and my awesome cars stats. then proceeded to do a mild burnout out of the gas station for which i was promtly reprimanded by the local authorities ;) .


RE: Higher Goals Needed
By Spuke on 6/22/2010 3:35:37 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
yeah i wasnt really nice about his snide remark
I guess that wannabe so-called "hippie" never heard of recycle, reuse before?


RE: Higher Goals Needed
By Klober on 6/22/2010 12:32:08 PM , Rating: 2
I can attest to the OPs numbers. I had a '97 Civic HX that got 37-42 MPG every single tank no matter how I drove it - and that was in Arizona with the A/C full blast most of the time. Civics historically just post impressive mileage numbers. :)


RE: Higher Goals Needed
By theapparition on 6/22/2010 12:39:28 PM , Rating: 2
Real world tests, however, vary far to wildly for any realistic comparison. Too many variables in an uncontrolled enviroment.

EPA numbers may not be indicitive of the mileage that YOU will get (either better or worse) but they do offer a standard set of tests that all cars can be compared to.

That's exactly why the regulation exists. Otherwise it's the wild west with each car mfr using thier own standards.

For an analogy, see the days of computer LCD mfrs each claiming better refresh, GTG, contrast, etc. Some claims were outlandish but the mfr could back it up under a specific set of conditions. Manufacturer's keep one-upping each other, stretching the truth while consumers were confused.

EPA numbers are the only reliable way to compare automobiles. Do you really want to go backwards?


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