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Sony hopes to cast a spell on gamers' wallets witha $430 PS3 "Move" pack. The motion control is available separately for $70 (plus $35 for the Eye camera).  (Source: Giant Bomb)

Sony will also be offering premium content to gamers for $49.99 a year via its new Playstation Plus service.  (Source: Giant Bomb)

Valve's Portal 2 also made a star appearance.  (Source: Giant Bomb)
Will gamers chomp on Sony's high prices?

Microsoft is offering Kinect for the Xbox 360 in November.  It is expected to be priced under $150, which means that with an Xbox 360 Arcade Edition (which dropped in price to $150) you will be likely to get a holiday motion bundle for under $300.  The Nintendo Wii is, of course, currently available for $199, with Wiimote and Wii Motion Plus.  

Sony is making a dangerous bet with its own motion gaming system that gamers are willing to pay more than Microsoft or Nintendo's prices to get what it feels is a superior experience.  At its E3 2010 keynote today, the company upset some in the audience by announcing that its Playstation 3 Motion Bundle would retail for $400.  Except, that's not all -- the bundle only includes the PS3 Eye Camera ($34.99, currently available) and Move Controller ($49.99) (it also comes with a sports game).  It does 
not include the PS3 Navigation controller, a necessary part of the "Move" experience.  Gamers will have to pick that up separately for $29.99.

Reaction to the high price point was instant.  Some in the crowd began booing and at least one person screamed "Too much!!" at the presenter.

Still Sony seems confident that customers will bite on the high-end offer.  Among the exclusive titles it showed off was Tiger Woods PGA Tour, which featured ultra-realistic golf motions.  If you're eager to become Tiger Woods and attempt some slick moves, Sony reminds us that it's all in the "flick of your wrists" and that power is very important as well.

Other "Move" titles include Time Crisis, Echochrome 2, Heavy Rain updates, Resident Evil 5, and Tron: Evolution.  Another key title is "Heros on the Move" which features familiar Sony-exclusive characters, including Ratchet, Jak, Bently, Clank, Sly Cooper.

Coke is teaming up with Sony to promote Move.

Besides Move, the other key announcement by Sony was a firmware update that allows 3D gaming with compatible TVs like its Bravia 3D TV lineup.  The update will be rolled to individual PS3's and from there it will be up to game vendors to update their titles to feature 3D.

Crysis 2, Mortal Kombat, Shaun White Skateboarding, Ghost Recon, Tron:Evolution, and NBA 2k11 all will get 3D-ified, as will Motorstorm, Wipeout HD.  Leading the charge will be Killzone 3, which will release in February 2011 and bring with it oodles of extra-dimension gore and carnage.

Sony says that by March 2011, twenty 3D-enable titles will be available for the 35 million PlayStation 3 consoles world.

Other huge titles announced include Twisted Metal, Portal 2, Final Fantasy XIV, Call of Duty:BO, DC Universe, SOCOM4: US Navy Team, Mafiaa II, The Fight: Lights Out, and Dead Space 2.

Also announced were LittleBigPlanet 2 and an upgraded Playstation Network service called Playstation "Plus" which delivers exclusive content.  Sony will be offering 3 months for free and then will charge $17.99 for 3 months, or $49.99 for a year.  Content through the service will not be downloadable, so if you quit, you'll lose access to it.

At the keynote, Sony also announced a number of PSP titles, many of them family friendly.  Announced titles included Tetris, Fat Princess, EyePetTron, Kingdom Hearts, Ace Combat, Toy Story, Ghosts of Sparta, Invzibles, 3rd birthday, P3P, Ys: The Oath, Valkyria II, and Piyotama.  Eyepet and Invzibles both make use of the PSP's camera.  It definitely seems that Sony is targeting more young gamers with the PSP.



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RE: Just Too Expensive For Now
By BansheeX on 6/15/2010 7:42:55 PM , Rating: 4
I find it rather humorous that the PS3 has been associated with "more expensive" up until even now. The PS3 is less expensive to own than the 360 and always has been. 4 years of Live costs $200 by itself. Want a blu-ray player for movies? Chuck in another $200. Want a blu-ray player for quieter gaming? Go screw yourself. Want wi-fi? Chuck in $100 for the add-on. Want a larger hard drive? Pay double what you'd pay on the PS3. RRoD after the warranty is up? Chuck in another $200-$300 for a new system. If even one of those costs is realized, the PS3 is cheaper. Chimp analysts everywhere predicted the PS3 would be dead within a year. They continue to parrot this nonsense in every article, fixating on the shelf-price and ignoring all of the separated expenses.


RE: Just Too Expensive For Now
By satveeraj on 6/15/10, Rating: 0
RE: Just Too Expensive For Now
By FITCamaro on 6/15/2010 8:14:19 PM , Rating: 2
Exactly. The PS3 benefits from Bluray in games in that it doesn't need multiple discs. But its a downfall when it comes to access speed. The Bluray drive is so slow it has to pre-cache stuff on the hard drive. A hard drive is standard because it wouldn't be able to work without one.

Don't get me wrong. I like my PS3. But my 360 gets far more use. And don't even try to compare PSN and Xbox Live. My buddy got Red Dead Redemption on PS3 so I got it too to play with him. Can we form a party and chat with voice without being in a multiplayer session? No. Do party invites just pop up and let you join? No you have to find it after getting the message.

Xbox Live is far better than PSN.


RE: Just Too Expensive For Now
By BansheeX on 6/15/2010 9:24:09 PM , Rating: 3
That is such $%&*ing nonsense. The hard drive is standard because developers will rarely spend time utilizing something that not every user has. And any disc drive is as capable as the next at sending data to the system, but a blu-ray drive is able to achieve the same data throughput at a much slower rpm because the data is 5x more densely packed on the disc. Less rpm = less noise.


RE: Just Too Expensive For Now
By quiksilvr on 6/15/2010 11:20:15 PM , Rating: 2
Yes and no. Bluray is a much more than that simple multiple DVD avoidance.

Sony learned from the mistake of Betamax. You need people on board from the get-go, which they had. Quite honestly, I blame HD DVD for even existing in the first place. It wasted over a year of pointless comparing, confused millions of average joe consumers, and in the end it just disappeared entirely.

As for the pre-caching, that is indeed true, but let's not forget that 360 lets you put the entire game onto their HDDs. Also, having a HDD built in from the get go ON ALL SKUS OF THE CONSOLE is very important both for developers (how do we ensure fixes can be made to games if our customer doesn't have a HDD?) and gamers (why can't I download demos?)

The fact of the matter is this: if you want to play with your friends that have a 360 and don't mind spending $50 a year, then obviously you'd get a 360.

But if you don't really give a crap who you're playing with so long as they're competent and want more bang for your buck, get a PS3.

And of course the games you prefer, and just my opinion, PS3 games are more to my liking.


RE: Just Too Expensive For Now
By Spivonious on 6/16/2010 9:56:56 AM , Rating: 1
I don't own either console, but your statement:

"how do we ensure fixes can be made to games if our customer doesn't have a HDD?"

The developers should test the game enough where it doesn't need patches. This era of "always-on" web connections has made software testers very lazy.


RE: Just Too Expensive For Now
By Quadrillity on 6/16/10, Rating: 0
RE: Just Too Expensive For Now
By FaceMaster on 6/16/2010 3:46:29 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
programmer lol


What's a 'programmer lol'?


RE: Just Too Expensive For Now
By Quadrillity on 6/16/2010 4:35:20 PM , Rating: 2
oops. Punctuation snafu :)


RE: Just Too Expensive For Now
By FaceMaster on 6/17/2010 2:16:34 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Punctuation snafu


What's a 'Punctuation snafu'?


RE: Just Too Expensive For Now
By Spivonious on 6/17/2010 11:02:03 AM , Rating: 3
Actually I am. Some small bugs are okay, but when games get released in unplayable states, that's just the company pushing the software out before it's finished. If the game needs to be patched, it wasn't tested.


RE: Just Too Expensive For Now
By afkrotch on 6/16/2010 6:59:40 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
I don't own either console, but your statement:

"how do we ensure fixes can be made to games if our customer doesn't have a HDD?"

The developers should test the game enough where it doesn't need patches. This era of "always-on" web connections has made software testers very lazy.


Games already take forever to come out, I don't feel like seeing another 1-2 years development time added on, to find bugs or for balancing.


RE: Just Too Expensive For Now
By MrBlastman on 6/16/2010 9:35:58 AM , Rating: 5
What about the part that everyone missed:

quote:
If you're eager to become Tiger Woods and attempt some slick moves, Sony reminds us that it's all in the "flick of your wrists" and that power is very important as well.


I see no mention of slick moves like:

"Grabbing golf girl's butts."
or
"Picking up the coffee waitresses."
or
"Caddy her caddy, sugar daddy."
or
"The long driver maneuver."
or
"Giving it the deep shaft."

What kind of Tiger Woods game is this? IF they are going to make it "realistic" and include full motion controller support, they really should try "hard" (heh) to make it truly realistic.

They need to get with the program at Sony.


By inperfectdarkness on 6/16/2010 1:23:24 PM , Rating: 4
tiger woods: south park edition


RE: Just Too Expensive For Now
By StevoLincolnite on 6/15/2010 11:56:29 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The PS3 is less expensive to own than the 360 and always has been. 4 years of Live costs $200 by itself. Want a blu-ray player for movies? Chuck in another $200. Want a blu-ray player for quieter gaming? Go screw yourself.


The difference between the Xbox and PS3 here is that Microsoft has GIVEN the consumer CHOICE on what they would like, essentially if you don't want any of that gear, you are getting the cheapest console that looks just as good in a game as a PS3 and is just as fun to play.


RE: Just Too Expensive For Now
By BZDTemp on 6/16/2010 5:55:52 AM , Rating: 4
Honestly - who get by with the Arcade 360?

I bought both the PS3 and the 360 when they came out and really there is a bunch of crap I had to pay extra with the 360 which came with the PS3.

- Kits so I can recharge the controllers.
- Headset because I can not just use any bluetooth headset.
- Wireless kit.

And then there is the missing HDMI port on the 360. Luckily I can get by with the component but when I upgrade the TV that could become an issue.

If the 360 had a browser and I wanted to use it for that I would have had to buy special 360 input devices. The PS3 lets me use standard PC USB devices or bluetooth ones.

The Arcade 360 may be cheaper but you certainly do not get more than you pay.


RE: Just Too Expensive For Now
By afkrotch on 6/16/2010 7:33:07 PM , Rating: 2
Ya, you have the choice to not have online play, buying AA batteries over and over again, or play buggy games, as absolutely no room to update games.


RE: Just Too Expensive For Now
By safcman84 on 6/16/2010 8:50:41 AM , Rating: 2
RRoD problems are very few and far between with the new Xbox models. Heat output etc has been reduced.

BTW, I own neither a Xbox or PS3.

$430 is way too expensive IMO. I can pick up a PC, with 10x more functionality, and a blu-ray drive for $600 or less.

not too mention the fact that to enjoy the PS3 experience, you need a HD TV and now even a 3D TV. $430 for PS3 + cost of TV = really expensive.


RE: Just Too Expensive For Now
By Iaiken on 6/16/2010 10:43:24 AM , Rating: 5
quote:
PS3 + cost of TV = really expensive.


Wait... what?

You have to try pretty effing hard to find a TV that doesn't support 720p (the base resolution of the PS3). Pretty much EVERY TV sold today supports that resolution.

Even then, 1080p televisions are not that expensive unless and you're sworn to a life without television there is a good chance you've got one.

The only people who will really pay for 3D TV are the same early adopters for which money is no object. So until that technology matures (wide viewing angles & no stupid glasses), you can pretty much discount it entirely.

Likewise, TV is a shared cost for both the 360 and PS3, so it really doesn't factor into it between the two of them. In an argument for the PC, a good quality 1920x1200 monitor is going to run you a pretty penny, plus the hardware premium you pay (and I do pay it gladly) works out to a pretty expensive pastime.

My PS3 cost me:

160GB System: $499
1 DS2: $34
Remote: $28
8' HDMI: $39
Total: $600

My 360 (may it burn in hell) cost me:

120GB System: $479
Controller: $34
8' HDMI: $39
WiFi: $60
RMA Shipping: $49x3
Total: $759

I never had XBL because my 60-day trial of it made me realize where all the CS kiddies had gone. The 360 didn't have all of the equivalent functionality of the PS3 (I use it to watch Blu Ray movies) and I can (and do) play my PS3 online with friends, for free!.

My PS3 saw probably 5x the play my 360 did, and yet my 360 crashed so many times I lost count and failed outright FOUR times. MS Canada refused to pay return shipping on all but the first return ($49 each time). My PS3 has not crashed once, never, ever.

F MS right in their stupid faces.


RE: Just Too Expensive For Now
By tedrodai on 6/16/2010 10:10:32 AM , Rating: 2
For the average user, you're probably mostly correct. But don't confuse value with price. If a user doesn't care about those factors or has alternatives whose price has already been realized outside of their game system purchase, you can spend quite a bit less on the 360 and still do what you want to do. Also, comparing the PSN to Live is currently not (and never has been to-date) an apples-to-apples comparison.

And when it comes to peripherals, you get reamed regardless of which console you're purchasing for.

So while you're still hot and bothered over the 360 vs PS3 debate (which the OP didn't even reference), I say they've BOTH been too expensive until recently for someone who's on a budget; AND if you're willing to pay for one and not the other, you had your own good reasons that gave the console more value:price than the other, and that's that.


RE: Just Too Expensive For Now
By afkrotch on 6/16/2010 7:40:37 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
And when it comes to peripherals, you get reamed regardless of which console you're purchasing for.


Except my PS3 controller comes standard with a rechargeable battery and uses a $1 USB cable to charge. While I was stuck with getting a $50 controller and $20 play and charge kit.

Course, I don't see the big deal with this Move crap anyways. It's $115. I'm sure the Natal is going to be $100-$150. They'll probably bundle it together for like $400-$450 with their new 360.


RE: Just Too Expensive For Now
By callmeroy on 6/16/2010 1:44:49 PM , Rating: 1
Except the blu-ray that is the single most bragged about advantage of the PS3 isn't really as impressive in reality as it sounds in the marketing material and on forum debates... its probably the slowest blu-ray I've ever witnessed in my life for starters.

Its very well documented that Xbox-Live is the king of on-line gaming services to date.

Finally, when I peruse Game Stop....it just seems like more good titles are on Xbox 360 than PS3....not saying PS3 doesn't have some insanely good titles because they do, but not in quantity as the 360.

And after all a console is ultimately only as good as its games...you can talk features and prices till the proverbial cows come home if a system doesn't have the games is all for nothing.


RE: Just Too Expensive For Now
By afkrotch on 6/16/2010 7:44:41 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Finally, when I peruse Game Stop....it just seems like more good titles are on Xbox 360 than PS3....not saying PS3 doesn't have some insanely good titles because they do, but not in quantity as the 360.


What AAA title doesn't end up on both consoles anyways? All you have is those 1st party titles and the very very very few exclusives.

Last exclusives I even remember has been Hard Rain (PS3) and Alan Wake (360).


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