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Yes, it finally has Wi-Fi

It's hard to believe that it's been nearly five years since the original Xbox 360 launched. The Xbox 360 hit the market a year ahead of the Nintendo Wii and PlayStation 3 and continues to do quite well in the marketplace. Thanks to a relatively healthy stable library of exclusive games and the second-to-none Xbox Live gaming service, gamers keep coming back for more despite years of RROD issues.

Over the years, the Xbox 360 has gone through a number of hardware changes. Advances in manufacturing technologies for GPU and CPU have resulted in smaller, cooler running chips; and HDMI output has made its way to the console. Storage capacities have been bumped, new colors have been added, and special editions have announced.

However, the basic design of the console has remained the same -- until now. Today at E3, Microsoft unveiled a new look for the Xbox 360.

The new Xbox 360 is smaller, sleeker, quieter and comes with an integrated 250GB hard drive (removable) and five USB ports (two in the front, three in the back). And yes folks, it FINALLY has built-in Wi-Fi (802.11n). It will be priced at $299 and will be in stores later this week.

According to Engadget, the current Xbox 360 Elite will drop down to $249 while the Xbox 360 Arcade will fall to $149.

In other Xbox 360 news, Microsoft today officially announced the Kinect accessory which captures full body motion for immersive gaming.

 



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The real big news...
By Spivonious on 6/14/2010 3:40:25 PM , Rating: 5
...Arcade for $150. That's cheaper than the Wii.




RE: The real big news...
By ET on 6/14/2010 4:23:54 PM , Rating: 2
I agree. At this price it's almost a no brainer. Sure it's nicer to have a hard disk, but with the recent added support for USB storage the Arcade sounds like a very good deal, and worth checking out even for those who aren't sure they need a 360.


RE: The real big news...
By Spivonious on 6/14/2010 5:14:48 PM , Rating: 4
Even as a cheap media center extender, this makes the Arcade very attractive.


RE: The real big news...
By SunAngel on 6/14/10, Rating: 0
RE: The real big news...
By Freezebyte on 6/14/10, Rating: 0
RE: The real big news...
By afkrotch on 6/14/2010 9:04:48 PM , Rating: 5
Except, it's not really all that loud, if you don't use the dvd-rom. Which is fine, since it's a media extender. It's playing media off a server.


RE: The real big news...
By SunAngel on 6/15/10, Rating: 0
RE: The real big news...
By afkrotch on 6/16/2010 9:19:01 PM , Rating: 2
Unless you're cramming the console into a tight area, it shouldn't have to ever blast the fans that high.


RE: The real big news...
By cditty on 6/14/2010 9:39:54 PM , Rating: 2
Not really, I use one in that matter and I am hard pressed to hear any fan noise from my entertainment center.

There is never a disc in the drive, as I connect to my media center pc.

The arcade is great for that. My Dish Network remote even has a code for it.


RE: The real big news...
By eskimospy on 6/15/2010 12:14:06 AM , Rating: 4
You must not have a 360. When the DVD drive isn't spinning it's very quiet, perfect for a media extender.


RE: The real big news...
By adiposity on 6/15/2010 1:05:40 PM , Rating: 2
I have a Jasper 360, and have installed all games to the hdd, and it's still pretty loud (i.e., I can hear it). Compared to my Wii and PS3, it's audible while they are not.


RE: The real big news...
By Iridium130m on 6/16/2010 10:37:55 AM , Rating: 2
Everybody is right here, the old units were noisy, the new ones are much better:

My original 360 20GB that I've had for 4 years now gets quite loud using it as a media center and playing HD content (fans ramp to near full within 30 seconds of starting an HD channel or recording, no DVD in drive). I've had to relocated the 360 to muffle the noise. When playing non HD content, i wouldn't exactly call it silent either, but it isn't too noticeable.

My 360 Elite that I purchased later (its maybe a year and a half old) though is much quieter and never ramps up like the original with HD content, so Microsoft recognized the issues and has been working on it.

After watching the unwrapping of the slim on Engadget and hearing the new unit, I think Microsoft has the noise issue completely whipped at this point.


RE: The real big news...
By corduroygt on 6/14/2010 9:24:13 PM , Rating: 2
The WDTV Live is a much better extender than the 360, it has no problems with all kinds of mkv files and it's dead quiet and reliable.


RE: The real big news...
By Alpha4 on 6/15/2010 1:17:12 AM , Rating: 2
Hey corduroygt, I'm curious to know if the WDTV can handle 15+ mbps MKV files. Does it have trouble with high resolution media? Thanks.


RE: The real big news...
By Ananke on 6/15/2010 3:25:38 AM , Rating: 2
It handles high bit-rate mkv just fine :) and yes, it works as media extender with 1080p


RE: The real big news...
By mackx on 6/15/2010 3:30:23 AM , Rating: 2
is this right? they've released an update to handle the matroska container?

last i heard they didn't support this and you had to change the container to a vob/mp4 or some such.


RE: The real big news...
By kalak on 6/15/2010 9:25:22 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
is this right? they've released an update to handle the matroska container?


Yes, it's right. And there's alternative firmwares too: http://b-rad.cc/wdlxtv-live/


RE: The real big news...
By jonmcc33 on 6/15/2010 4:38:15 PM , Rating: 2
The WDTV has been able to handle MKV from the start. I have had one (non-Live version) since December of last year. It works flawlessly on all media types. Best yet, it is small enough to fit in the palm of your hand.


RE: The real big news...
By noirsoft on 6/15/2010 3:50:16 PM , Rating: 2
I've given up on my WD TV Live since it doesn't handle the soft-subs on MKV files properly. It shows only a default font text stream that appears to have notes from the subbers in there half the time instead of actual subtitles.

It also is nearly impossible to find a Wi-Fi adapter that works with it via USB.

I ended up using spare parts to put a Win 7 PC in its place.


RE: The real big news...
By Spivonious on 6/15/2010 1:38:00 PM , Rating: 2
Except that's just a streamer and not an extender. With the XBox 360 you can access the TV tuners in an media center PC.


RE: The real big news...
By Suntan on 6/15/2010 1:45:51 PM , Rating: 2
It is an extender, but with artificially limited capabilities. There are better options available for people that want an extender box for accessing PC DVR capabilities, as well as native playback of DVD/BR rips.

-Suntan


RE: The real big news...
By Donkeyshins on 6/14/2010 5:16:45 PM , Rating: 2
I picked up two 20GB HDDs for my Arcade for $10. Not a lot of space, but great bang for the buck.


RE: The real big news...
By jjmcubed on 6/14/2010 7:06:08 PM , Rating: 3
With this price point I'm very interested in getting one. The hard drives you mention? Can you use any USB hard drive? I held off on getting one as they didn't support anything but the official X Box 360 one.

Can anyone give me information on if I can use an existing hard drive? Will I have to use a new partition or will I need a hard drive exclusively for the X Box. Any info anyone has to point me in the right direction is appreciated.


RE: The real big news...
By DFranch on 6/14/2010 9:01:55 PM , Rating: 2
I'm pretty sure "USB storage" refers to flash, not Hard drives. MS still requires you to buy their hard drives.


RE: The real big news...
By jjmcubed on 6/15/2010 6:16:51 AM , Rating: 2
So if I use a 16gb flash I will be OK? Will it need to be dedicated to the 360, or will I be able to use it for other back ups? Should I just not worry about the arcade and get the new SKU(with the hard drive included)? Hate to not use the hard drives I have on hand. Sorry to intrude, but I have searched and haven't been able to find the best info.


RE: The real big news...
By Freezebyte on 6/15/2010 11:12:09 AM , Rating: 2
It will be easier just to have a dedicated flash drive for the 360 rather then going back and forth. There so dirt cheap nowadays, why not?

You can also pick up a used HDD for a better price then new


RE: The real big news...
By monomer on 6/15/2010 1:04:08 PM , Rating: 2
You can use any type of USB storage device, either flash based or HDD, but the maximum space you can use for any given USB storage is capped at 16 GB.


RE: The real big news...
By Freezebyte on 6/15/2010 1:55:22 PM , Rating: 2
Uh no, you can only used flash based USB storage, hence the 16gig limit as well as not exceeding their own 20gig HDD storage option.


RE: The real big news...
By Klober on 6/15/2010 5:59:47 PM , Rating: 2
Are you sure? That's 400GB for $100 when you can get 2TB for $109 from NewEgg. Cheap? Yes. Great bang for the buck? Not so much ;)


RE: The real big news...
By muhahaaha on 6/14/2010 5:28:14 PM , Rating: 2
sweet... a cheap replacement with HDMI for my original production version 360. I assume I can just plug my current Xbox360 HD into it.

It just RROD'd on me this week.

The funny thing is that it was fine the last time I used it, and then a month later, I went to turn it on and it was dead. Weird, you'd think it would die while *in use*. Maybe it got zapped by a power surge, dunno.


RE: The real big news...
By Akrovah on 6/14/2010 5:38:04 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I assume I can just plug my current Xbox360 HD into it.


Doubtful, considering the huge diference in size and the use of the word "integrated."

It sounds more like it may finally take a standard 2.5 inch drive without the stupid special housing.


RE: The real big news...
By Aikouka on 6/14/2010 5:56:03 PM , Rating: 2
It could be possible to disassemble the old housing and use the drive.

The only thing is that the capacities will most likely vary to the point where it isn't worthwhile to replace it. I have the old 8GB (I think that's the right size) HDD, and I would very much prefer the 250GB size. I'm a bit of a pack rat, so I don't delete demos very often.

There was a data transfer cable that you could use with a new hard drive. I wonder if that also might be possible to use with this XBOX 360 and your old HDD.


RE: The real big news...
By afkrotch on 6/14/2010 7:14:18 PM , Rating: 2
Except that even if you took apart the special housing, stuck in your own 2.5" hdd, it still didn't work.

MS likes to use portions of the platters to tie only their MS branded hdds to the 360. You could mod a diff hdd to work with it, but only specific hard drives worked with the mod and you were still constrained to the largest size hdd MS was selling. So even if you stuck in a 1 TB 2.5" hdd, you were stuck with only 250 gig useable.

I'm assuming that this won't change. You'll have to buy specific MS hdds.


RE: The real big news...
By Hiawa23 on 6/14/2010 9:26:20 PM , Rating: 2
If you have a transfer cable, it's an easy process to transfer data.


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