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LimeWire founder allegedly moving assets to avoid paying settlement

File sharing services like Napster and LimeWire have in the past been targets of the RIAA and major record labels for allegedly helping users pirate music. More than one file sharing firm has been forced to pay millions in damages to record labels and change their business models.

In August of 2006, the RIAA sued peer-to-peer file sharing service LimeWire for copyright infringement and sought damages of $150,000 for each illegally downloaded song.  The LimeWire case went to court in 2006 only days after Kazaa agreed to a $100 million settlement for music labels. Four years later, the record companies who were part of that LimeWire suit in 2006 are still trying to collect on hundreds of millions in damages for copyright infringement.

Thirteen of the largest companies in the music industry are now looking to courts to freeze LimeWire assets. LimeWire founder Mark Gorton is allegedly trying to evade paying damages by moving assets to an entity that he hopes will be shielded from damages owed to the record industry. 
Reuters reports that among the assets Gorton has moved is 90% of the ownership stakes in the company. The majority of the assets that have been allegedly illegally moved are blacked out in court documents.

The court documents read, "[Gorton and other defendants have] have engaged in a series of fraudulent actions [to] frustrate a legal judgment in this case."

The plaintiffs in the case sought a permanent injunction against piracy on LimeWire last week. Despite the legal proceedings, the RIAA and record industry are alleging that Gorton and LimeWire have continued their illegal ways. The plaintiffs also point out that as of the filing every song on the Billboard Top 40 lists was available on LimeWire.



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RE: Crazy Consumers
By Azure Sky on 6/9/2010 12:26:41 PM , Rating: 3
as a tech myself(with over 20 years exp) I can tell you, Its true, for me it was around 95% malware/viruses, they are either form limewire like apps OR just as commonly from porn sites.

The fact is that people are idiots(as im sure you know) they are just STUPID....

I admit I do download alot of stuff over various systems p2p and other, but I also know how important a good AV app and checking anything you download is.

Oh and part of why alot of people I see these days wont buy music in particular is that they are sick of buying a disk then finding out they cant rip it to use on their mp3 player due to protections that the RIAA and such pile onto the disks.

I have a few disks like that, Its BS having to go thru 90min work to be able to rip songs YOU PAID FOR.....

it ticks me off to no bloody end, I wont buy music online because the quality either sucks OR they want you to deal with DRM, I DO NOT DO DRM, If your gonna treat me like a thief I may as well be one.

this isnt just music tho, pc games are getting worse and worse, look at the new protection UBI is putting on all their games, even SP games that you CANT play online requier a CONSTANT internet connection to work, if you loose con or their server acts up(its down more then up) you cant play, the game just locks or crashes.....

do Pirates deal with those issues, NO they just crack the game and away they go, playing offline without any net connection if they want.....

If the RIAA/MPAA/exct want to get more sales, make the price more reasonable and REMOVE THE DRM, all your doing is treating your PAYING CUSTOMERS LIKE THIEVES, and people DO NOT LIKE THAT.

blah I went on a tare there!!!

I cant blame alot of people for being sick of it honestly, I know as a tech I sure am tired of trying to get games working for people because the game dosnt like their cd/dvd drive or because it dosnt like them having some piece of software installed(hell securom has a few versions that see windvd as a virtual drive software)

it gets VERY old, and frustrating, so much so that sometimes the only fix for a client is for me to dig up a crack to let them play their game offline(no cd crack or the like)

blah!!!


RE: Crazy Consumers
By Cheesew1z69 on 6/9/2010 12:59:26 PM , Rating: 3
There is nothing wrong with Amazon's quality and it's DRM free.


RE: Crazy Consumers
By sleepeeg3 on 6/9/2010 1:07:10 PM , Rating: 2
It's good, but only 256k VBR. 320k MP3s/AACs or FLAC would be better.

Checkout 7digital. Available in several countries and they offer mostly 320k MP3, but some AAC (MP4) or 256k CBR MP3 - all better than Amazon. No mainstream sites that I am aware of that offer FLAC yet.


RE: Crazy Consumers
By Hyperion1400 on 6/9/2010 2:44:15 PM , Rating: 2
I really won't be happy with downloadable offering until that number hits the high 900s or the 1000+ range(and preferably WMA Lossless or FLAC). If I am paying the price of a CD, I expect the quality of a CD, no exceptions. So, until that day, I will be happy buying CDs.


RE: Crazy Consumers
By Akrovah on 6/9/2010 5:47:43 PM , Rating: 2
But you are not paying the price of a CD. The typical album on Amazon costs $9, last time I bought a CD it was $16.

The extra quality of a CD is nice I suppose, but once you get into the 250s VBR MP3 most people (including me) can't relly tell the difference and so I am happy settling for the drop.

More power to you if you can hear it and it makes a difference in your purchasing decisions though. Awsome ears.


RE: Crazy Consumers
By Noya on 6/9/10, Rating: -1
RE: Crazy Consumers
By Sazabi19 on 6/11/2010 12:39:54 PM , Rating: 2
www.fixtstoreonline.com taht is a pretty good site if you like some non-mainstream music (industrial); made by Klayton from Celldweller


RE: Crazy Consumers
By morphologia on 6/9/2010 4:04:05 PM , Rating: 2
If only they could un-ruin their Unbox. That app is excrementally flawed.


RE: Crazy Consumers
By NagoyaX on 6/9/2010 3:18:51 PM , Rating: 3
I agree. I always buy Sid Myers Civ's.
There has never been a CD key nor any DRM I know of. And its always done well and sold quite well.

Just shows you people need to stop making junk. People will pay for good stuff


RE: Crazy Consumers
By JHBoricua on 6/10/2010 11:13:58 AM , Rating: 2
All the Civ4 releases had some form of DRM on it, I know as I've own them all. You need the CD in order to play the game and if you make a backup of the CD, the game wouldn't recognize it.

The LATEST patch for Civ4 Beyond The Sword did remove the copy protection check for THAT release. However, the original Civ4 and Civ4 Warlords still have the 'original CD' check requirement.

Thank god for gamecopyworld.com though.


RE: Crazy Consumers
By cerx on 6/9/2010 5:04:05 PM , Rating: 2
Well congrats, you are a thief. And btw, cds were sold without DRM before. And they were pirated. By people like you. So what incentive does the music industry have to go back to that?


RE: Crazy Consumers
By Sonikku13 on 6/9/2010 9:48:30 PM , Rating: 3
Theres one reason - Stardock's game Sins of a Solar Empire. Created on a budget of less than $1,000,000, it became IGN's Best PC Game of the Year in 2008, and it sold 200,000 in it's first month of availability. It has no DRM whatsoever. The reason why it sold 200,000 copies in it's first month was due to low system requirements - appealing to the masses, and the quality of the game itself. Lets put it in perspective - Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare had sales of 383,000 within the first couple of months of release, despite massive media coverage and having DRM. This clearly shows DRM results in a reduction of value in the consumer's eye. If Stardock, an independent developer, can succeed without DRM, why can't the RIAA succeed without DRM?


RE: Crazy Consumers
By The Raven on 6/10/2010 4:50:55 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
If your gonna treat me like a thief I may as well be one.


He's pleading guilty here. But he states why he's not ashamed.

CDs were sold w/o DRM before and they were not pirated because piracy is something that "didn't exist" (emphasis:yes, those are quotes) until P2P clients arrived. There weren't any bust of college students sharing CDs, creating mix tapes, or the sort. There was software that allowed you to rip the discs no prob, and the RIAA didn't sue those programmers.

A long time ago in Japan when MD was king, there were CD rental stores (like Blockbuster, except with CDs) and kids would just rent a disc and then make a digital copy on MD. There was no legal action taken. Is that piracy? Well the RIAA didn't seem to think so since no legal action was taken.


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