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China unveiled the world's fastest train (in average speed) last week.  (Source: Xinhua)

China plans to spend $1T USD to blanket its country with 16,000 miles of high speed rail, forming a unique state of the art transportation network. U.S. President Barack Obama has pledged a mere 2 percent of that sum ($13B USD) to our nation's own high speed rail efforts.  (Source: The Transport Politic)
China's $1T USD high speed rail gambit leaps ahead

High speed rail is right up there with electric vehicles when it comes to promising green solutions to transportation in the new millennium.  High speed rail uses electricity and mass-transit to drastically cut emissions when compared to automobile travel.  And it's expected to be far faster and more cost effective transportation method, albeit with some big up front costs for infrastructure.  Much as the original coal-burning locomotive and oil-burning automobile revolutionized transportation in the 19th and 20th centuries, the electric locomotive looks to transform society in the 21st century.

The U.S. under President Barack Obama has committed $13B USD in high speed rail investment.  That seems somewhat impressive until one hears about China's high speed rail commitment.  China
has already spent $259B USD on high speed rail and plans on spending a total of $1T USD by 2020 to install 16,000 miles of high speed rail track -- or roughly 1/3 of the length of the U.S.'s total interstate highway system.  

China put the exclamation point on its efforts last week with the unveiling of its flagship high speed rail model, the 380A train.  With a 236 miles per hour top cruising speed, the train is the world's fastest.

A handful of maglev trains can beat the 380A in top speed, but they are unable to sustain a faster average speed.  The "380" part of its name comes from its 236 mph cruising speed which translates into 380 kilometers per hour.  The train will offer a 4 hour ride between Shanghai and Beijing.  That cuts the trip time to less than a third of the driving time (12 to 13 hours).

A Chinese firm, Changchun Railway Vehicles Co., makes the impressive vehicles.  The first production model, the "He Xie", was unveiled last week at a ceremony in Changchun, the capital of the northeastern province of Jilin in China.  At the ceremony, the Chinese government pledged to purchase 100 of the speedy trains.

High speed rail will provide the Chinese economy with a unique advantage as it continues to grow and expand.  Business travelers will be able to make trips much faster and regain literally weeks in productivity each year.  And carbon emissions, long a sore spot for China, will be cut in a way that's
actually beneficial for the economy.

Meanwhile, the U.S. sees its own plans for high speed rail stalled as it ponders potentially less effective solutions for carbon control like "carbon-credits".  The 380A and China's high speed rail ambitions have led some to question if the U.S. will be left behind as the rest of the world embraces high speed rail.



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That's not a Chinese train.
By HyperMiler on 6/7/2010 9:38:41 AM , Rating: 4
That particular train is a knock off version of Siemens Velaro.

CNR previously produced 50 sets of Velaros under license from Siemens, with some core parts sourced from Siemens. After gaining experience, CNR replaced those Siemens sourced parts with its own replica parts and now are calling it an "indigenous train" since no original German part is used. Then Chinese claims a faster top speed through speeding; Velaro can actually run at 400 km/h but Siemens capped the top service speed at 350 km/h as a safety margin; Chinese are utilizing this built in safety margin in Velaro to speed 380A at 380 km/h to claim the world's fastest service speed, which Siemens would never do.

China at the moment does not have an ability to design a high speed train model from scratch, nor could Chinese(and shockingly Japanese Shinkansen) high-speed trains enter the US market due to crashworthiness issues.

So you will not see those Chinese bullet trains running in the US; only European-regulation compliant train models are permitted by FRA on the US railways.




RE: That's not a Chinese train.
By HyperMiler on 6/7/2010 9:49:35 AM , Rating: 3
List of high speed trains that could operate in the US.

- Siemens Velaro
- Alstom TGV
- Alstom AGV
- Bombardier Zafiro
- Rotem KTX-2
- Rotem HEMU-400X
- Kawasaki efSET

List of high speed trains illegal in the US

- Shinkansen(Kawasaki efSET follows Euro-regulation and is not considered a Shinkansen model)
- Chinese CRH series


By roadhog1974 on 6/7/2010 6:47:49 PM , Rating: 2
first time I read that I didn't see "could"
and thought awesome.

then I re-read it.


RE: That's not a Chinese train.
By bernardl on 6/7/2010 9:55:19 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
China at the moment does not have an ability to design a high speed train model from scratch, nor could Chinese(and shockingly Japanese Shinkansen) high-speed trains enter the US market due to crashworthiness issues.


Rigth... a train that has been running every 2 minutes between 6AM and midnight every single day for more than 40 years without a single casuality doesn't meet safety criterias... That says more about the criterias than about the safety of the train. :)

Cheers,
Bernard


By HyperMiler on 6/7/2010 10:19:54 AM , Rating: 4
quote:
Rigth... a train that has been running every 2 minutes between 6AM and midnight every single day for more than 40 years without a single casuality doesn't meet safety criterias...

Shinkansen requires its own dedicated track to run and can't run on older conventional tracks as required in the US. Accordingly Shinkansen is automatically disqualified.

European high-speed trains can(and do) run on older conventional tracks, and are designed for crashes with cargo trains and automobiles at the crossings. This is why Euro bullet trains are legal in the US under the revised FRA rules but Shinkansen isn't.


RE: That's not a Chinese train.
By modus2 on 6/7/2010 11:01:34 AM , Rating: 2
Almost right

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinkansen

"Injuries and a single fatality have been caused by doors closing on passengers or their belongings"


RE: That's not a Chinese train.
By Iaiken on 6/7/2010 10:52:57 AM , Rating: 2
Posted this below, but people keep getting it wrong...

No, it's a Bombardier Zifiro , they sold 80 of them initially (since expanded to 100):

http://www.bombardier.com/en/corporate/media-centr...

http://www.canada.com/business/Bombardier+wins+hig...

Seriously, there are PLENTY of news stories on this that you should feel the need to make things up just to sound smart.


By HyperMiler on 6/7/2010 2:13:38 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
No, it's a Bombardier Zifiro , they sold 80 of them initially

Bombardier Zefiro-380 doesn't even have a prototype running.

Stop talking when you don't understand what you are talking about.

Compare CNR's CRH380A's body shell with Valero CN(aka CRH3), and they are 100% identical. And it should; CNR license produced Velaro CN as CRH3.


RE: That's not a Chinese train.
By v9s on 6/7/10, Rating: 0
RE: That's not a Chinese train.
By YashBudini on 6/8/2010 12:16:03 AM , Rating: 2
"That particular train is a knock off version of Siemens Velaro."

But is it a legal knock off?


RE: That's not a Chinese train.
By Mike2038 on 6/11/2010 10:46:12 AM , Rating: 2
Why reinvent when cloning is cheaper. This is china.


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