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Apple iPad

MSI Wind-Pad
Steve Jobs boasts of 2 million iPads sold

Apple's iPad continues to snare new customers to around the world. Apple was happy to announce earlier in May that it sold over one million iPads in less than a month. Today, thanks to the international launch of the "magical" device, sales have surpassed the two million mark.

This past weekend saw the iPad launch in Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Spain, Switzerland and the UK. Some stores even had customers lining up for hours to get their hands on the device. And as always, Apple CEO Steve Jobs was more than happy to gloat about his company's latest creation.

“Customers around the world are experiencing the magic of iPad, and seem to be loving it as much as we do,” said Jobs. “We appreciate their patience, and are working hard to build enough iPads for everyone.”

In other tablet news, Computex 2010 appears to be shaping up to be a showcase for iPad competitors. Earlier today, we told you about two new tablets from ASUS.

MSI is also getting in on the action with the 10" Wind-Pad. The device features a 1.66GHz Intel Atom processor, 2GB of RAM, and a 32GB SSD. The device runs Windows 7 Home Premium with a custom touch-focused UI running on top. Other features include USB and HDMI ports, Wi-Fi connectivity, and a 3G wireless radio.

According to MSI, the device weighs 1.78 pounds and can operate for up to 8 hours on a charge.

MSI expects to make the Wind-Pad available later this year at a price of around $500.

Updated 5/31/2010 @ 11:48 am

OCW has some additional info on the MSI Wind-Pad. The device features a 1.3MP webcam, a GPS receiver, accelerometer, and a host of MSI-specific software to take advantage of the multi-touch screen.



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RE: Running Windows 7? No thanks
By Tony Swash on 5/31/2010 11:50:09 AM , Rating: 0
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The reason to go with Win7 is 1) compatibility, 2) compatibility and 3) compatibility. How many OSX apps are compatible with the iPad? 0. How many iPhone apps work well (from an interface perspective, because it *is* the same OS) on the iPad? 0. It's a unique platform that for core functionality requires customer software.

But for non-interactive content, and for maintenance content, and for administration - I don't *need* the device to have nice touch features. What will be nice is that I can connect my devices together without some idiotic middleware like iTunes.

And the fourth, fifth, sixth and seventh reasons? Take it, Steve: "Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers." Visual Studio is the best development environment in the world today. Making a device Win7 compatible means that you have access to the best tools, the most resources and the biggest development base. It runs all the API's which across the board are the most advanced in the world. It supports the best hardware in the world.

And it does all of this out of the box. Android may match many of these features - but you need a custom(ized) SoC, and special drivers. Atom+Ion runs Win7 and everything else you can think of out of the box.

That people who should know better need this explained to them is mind boggling.


Crikey - how many things can you get wrong in one go - apparently a lot.

Lets go through this one by one shall we:

a) Tablets are touched based devices

b) Windows 7 is an OS with a crude set of touch commands bolted on top - it therefore offers a horrible touch experience for end users.

c) MacOSX apps don't run on the iPad and were never intended to and never will becuase the iPad runs the iPhone version of OSX

d) iPad can run all 240,000 apps in the App store and there were at 1st May (ie only 4 weeks after the iPad launch) already 4,870 apps specifically designed for the iPad. Many more iPad apps are announced each day.

e) The iPhone OS (which runs on the iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad) has a huge developer community and a vast number of Apps and the App store has sold billions of apps.

f) Current tablets running Windows 7 are very poor and are selling very badly.

g) Because Windows 7 only offers a sub-standard touch experience it is very likely that apps designed to run as touch apps on Windows 7 tablets will be sub-standard and will sell as poorly as the Windows Tablets.

h) Apple has already sold more tablets (after just 2 months in the tablet business) than all previous Windows tablets ever sold.

i) All the evidence points to the iPad being a huge success in the market and very popular with consumers. Apple will probably sell at least 10 million in year one and even more in subsequent years.

j) The reason the iPad is selling so well is because what it offers is something consumers want (which among other things includes safety, instant on, speed, beautiful design, well designed and stable touch based OS, a huge number of easily bought and inexpensive touch apps).

Apple are going to make a huge pile of money and will dominate the tablet market very quickly. Windows stands no chance in the tablet market (Steve Balmer drops the ball again) and Android tablets may well not be able to catch Apple.

The main reason that Microsoft has done so poorly in the new markets (such as mobile and tablet) is that in these new markets Windows and its whole vast legacy is an encumbrance and not an advantage. Defending Windows has crippled Microsoft and it is likely that it is too late for them to recover.


RE: Running Windows 7? No thanks
By sebmel on 5/31/2010 12:25:07 PM , Rating: 2
Microsoft are about to announce Visual Studio for the iPad at WWDC.


RE: Running Windows 7? No thanks
By Sahrin on 5/31/2010 1:04:47 PM , Rating: 5
You wasted a lot of time ticking off a bunch of completely irrelevant points which I already had addressed in my original post. But since you seem to want to rehash, I'll play your game.

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a) Tablets are touched based devices


Patronizing people doesn't make you sound smart or your point more sound. It makes you sound like a d***. Yes, tablets are touched based. Thanks.

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b) Windows 7 is an OS with a crude set of touch commands bolted on top - it therefore offers a horrible touch experience for end users.


While I'm not going to get into the particulars of what MS's product can and can't do - I can say I have used *many* Win7 touch devices, and had a great experience on many of those. I would compare my experience to OSX-based touch devices, but there aren't any - so your point is both stupid and pedantic. Native touch app is native. Yes, thanks, now go drink a five-hour-energy and get back to your graphic design project.

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c) MacOSX apps don't run on the iPad and were never intended to and never will becuase the iPad runs the iPhone version of OSX


...Well, first of all, iPhoneOS is not the OSX version of anything - saying so illustrates just how poorly informed you are. It's like saying that WM7 is the Phone version of Win7. It's not. Second, you just hit the nail on the head. OSX apps don't run on the iPad! Thanks, you've lost the argument at this point because you conceded my entire point. The rest is just you trying to argue that the iPad makes you feel better inside - which is alright, some people like having objects shoved into their rectums; but it's not for me.

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d) iPad can run all 240,000 apps in the App store and there were at 1st May (ie only 4 weeks after the iPad launch) already 4,870 apps specifically designed for the iPad. Many more iPad apps are announced each day.


What is this, an Apple ad? Once again, you're trying to sell me something I DO NOT WANT. If it's fine for you, I don't have a problem with that - but don't tell me I'm wrong about what I want (which is what your entire post is about). Yes, the App Store is full of useless crap (and more a few nuggets). So is every application environ for every platform. This isn't relevant to the point - a Win7 tablet is more versatile and useful than a thinOS tablet. You keep conceding this point again and again, because you're tripping all over yourself trying to sell the iPad. Sorry you feel bad about it's shortcomings, but your buyers' remorse has no place here.

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e) The iPhone OS (which runs on the iPhone, iPod Touch and iPad) has a huge developer community and a vast number of Apps and the App store has sold billions of apps.


What is this, an Earnings Call? For Christ's sake we're not watching a sporting event. Don't point to the numbers and use that as a justification for success - Apple's been selling inferior products at a huge markup for decades, it's nothing new.

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f) Current tablets running Windows 7 are very poor and are selling very badly.


I wasn't aware there were any. I hope that helps you understand why.

quote:
g) Because Windows 7 only offers a sub-standard touch experience it is very likely that apps designed to run as touch apps on Windows 7 tablets will be sub-standard and will sell as poorly as the Windows Tablets.


Most of the software I run on my PC is free. I don't care about App sales - and if you are a user of the platform, neither should you. Free is the best price of all. My browser of choice - free. My media player - free. Steam - free. CSS (a free mod for HL2) is free. I don't understand why people look at "finally having the ability to pay for the little knick-knack apps" as a good thing. I like to keep my money.

quote:
h) Apple has already sold more tablets (after just 2 months in the tablet business) than all previous Windows tablets ever sold.


This is just flat out wrong. 2 Million versus tens of millions of tablet PC's over the years? You can spout off your zealotry, but let's stick to the facts.

quote:
i) All the evidence points to the iPad being a huge success in the market and very popular with consumers. Apple will probably sell at least 10 million in year one and even more in subsequent years.


Where did I say this wouldn't be the case? I personally think the iPad is a great product - the only Apple product I've ever been interested in. It just lacks too much for me to consider it; and I think a tablet with a full OS will be superior. I'm sorry this offends your <s>faith</s> <s>beliefs</s> <s>religion</s> ideas about the world, but it's the way I feel - and unlike your position, it happens to be supported by fact and deductive reasoning.

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j) The reason the iPad is selling so well is because what it offers is something consumers want (which among other things includes safety, instant on, speed, beautiful design, well designed and stable touch based OS, a huge number of easily bought and inexpensive touch apps).


Steve Jobs? Is that you? I'm surprised you didn't stick a "magical" in there. I've got to say, nothing is more frustrating to me than the subjugation of reason to some misguided attempt at an emotional connection with a THING! It's a piece of aluminum and silicon! You're acting like it's a freaking holy relic. "People want to connect with their computers!" People like that need therapy. It's a box. That's all. Assigning it more value than that cheapens you.


By StevoLincolnite on 5/31/2010 1:55:05 PM , Rating: 2
Took the words right out of my mouth!

Well said. :)


By Alexstarfire on 5/31/2010 3:46:03 PM , Rating: 2
You do realize he'll probably post that he's never, and will never, buy an iPad, right? Just saying, he likes to be a hypocrite.


RE: Running Windows 7? No thanks
By sprockkets on 5/31/2010 10:45:39 PM , Rating: 2
Just a few points:

quote:
While I'm not going to get into the particulars of what MS's product can and can't do - I can say I have used *many* Win7 touch devices, and had a great experience on many of those. I would compare my experience to OSX-based touch devices, but there aren't any - so your point is both stupid and pedantic. Native touch app is native. Yes, thanks, now go drink a five-hour-energy and get back to your graphic design project.


Perhaps why OSX on the desktop doesn't have touchscreens is because it isn't necessary; it is much easier to use the mouse.

Using a multi-touch pad on a laptop makes sense. Of course, Apple did it first.

quote:
...Well, first of all, iPhoneOS is not the OSX version of anything - saying so illustrates just how poorly informed you are. It's like saying that WM7 is the Phone version of Win7. It's not. Second, you just hit the nail on the head. OSX apps don't run on the iPad! Thanks, you've lost the argument at this point because you conceded my entire point. The rest is just you trying to argue that the iPad makes you feel better inside - which is alright, some people like having objects shoved into their rectums; but it's not for me.


Uh, yes it is. Both are using the same MachBSD kernel, with one for ARM and one for x86. Same as Android, uses the same linux kernel as the desktop (and since Google is too lazy to maintain their branch of code, they just removed it from the official kernel tree). WinCE didn't take the same Win2k kernel and put it on a phone, neither do they use the same dev tools. Apple however uses Objective C for both, with the iphone version adding api's specific for touch.

quote:
This isn't relevant to the point - a Win7 tablet is more versatile and useful than a thinOS tablet.


Perhaps, but without Apple pioneering multi-touch or even using a capacitive screen I doubt Win7 would have ever supported capacitive screens or left the stylus pen I use on my tablet for work. Neither would their phone.

quote:
What is this, an Earnings Call? For Christ's sake we're not watching a sporting event. Don't point to the numbers and use that as a justification for success - Apple's been selling inferior products at a huge markup for decades, it's nothing new.


Maybe for their lousy laptops, but after three generations of iphones, you'd think that they would wise up to their inferior quality. But, they haven't. In fact, they seem to be always rated at the top for satisfaction.

You may think Apple's markups are bad, but you would cringe if I told you the markup on HVAC parts.

quote:
I wasn't aware there were any. I hope that helps you understand why.


Any as in any available or that there aren't any that sell well?

http://www.xploretech.com/ProductsSubPages/ix104c4...

Rugged for my line of work, HVAC. If I lose it I cough up $3700.

Windows 7 has the tablet features in Premium and up. Maybe after failing to make UMPCs and the tablet's before them they will succeed this time. Best of luck to them.

quote:
Most of the software I run on my PC is free. I don't care about App sales - and if you are a user of the platform, neither should you. Free is the best price of all. My browser of choice - free. My media player - free. Steam - free. CSS (a free mod for HL2) is free. I don't understand why people look at "finally having the ability to pay for the little knick-knack apps" as a good thing. I like to keep my money.


Free apps are available on the app store too. Not to mention you have Apple making the marketplace viable by combating piracy thus keeping prices low. Don't believe me? Check out the prices on various games for the iphone vs. Palm or WinMob.

quote:
This is just flat out wrong. 2 Million versus tens of millions of tablet PC's over the years? You can spout off your zealotry, but let's stick to the facts.


Anecdotal, but I've already seen 2 ipads in the wild vs. n 0 pcs outside my organization running XP/Win7 tablet edition. Besides, does anyone have all the sales figures of tablet's? And even if it was 10 million, that's been what, the past 9 years tablet's have been on the market?

Personally I don't see anything in an ipad and I end up hooking up a keyboard to my tablet because the longer it takes for me to input text the less I get paid.


By Alexstarfire on 6/1/2010 4:51:13 AM , Rating: 2
Your reason for not seeing other tablets is simply because pretty much no individual needs one. I'd imagine 99% of the tablets are in the business sector where they can actually be utilized. It's easier to carry around a tablet to use than a clipboard after all, especially if the stuff you write on the clipboard has to go into a computer anyway.


By damianrobertjones on 5/31/2010 2:55:57 PM , Rating: 2
Have you used Windows 7 Touch features or are you repeating what you've read?

The Acer 1820ptz, along with MANY devices really work very well with Touch and ESPECIALLY Multi-touch.

But you'd know that as you've used them... Haven't you?


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