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June 6, 2006 didn't fit AMD's schedule

We just got official confirmation from motherboard and chipset manufacturers in Taiwan -- AMD has moved the official launch date of Athlon 64 DDR2 up two weeks to May 23, 2006. AMD roadmaps have previously put the AM2 launch at June 6, 2006 (during Computex 2006), but since motherboards and CPUs are already completed, the launch will be pushed up. AMD insiders tell us Conroe's launch date was also a factor in pushing the AM2 launch date up, though even we do not know the exact date Intel's Conroe will launch.

AMD's latest advisories claimed the following:
  • May 16, 2006: Global announcement of Energy Efficient Processor roadmap and pricing
  • May 23, 2006: Global announcement of Socket AM2 and new desktop product availability and pricing
  • May 31, 2006: Global announcement of AMD LIVE! desktop system availability


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Here is the deal
By milnerw on 4/19/2006 9:54:02 AM , Rating: 2
Right im going to lay it down nice and simple ye...

Granted Conroe or what ever looks pretty good on paper but still not one analyst has seen one.... or its real life performance and for AMD to make the jump to AM2 and DDR2 support for no REAL peformance gain doesnt make sense either.

Now this is my theory!

AMD switched to AM2 because now is about the right time to prepare for un upcomming new core. I do not belive they would release a new socket type for any other reason than this since sockect 939 is not really strained in anyway by the current processors. So if AMD release a new socket 6-9 months before the release of a new core it means that people will be ready for an easy transition to a new core (weather its better than conroe or not). I also cannot see why AMD would be spending 6 billion on upgrading and making a new plant to produce more of the current core "Athlon 64's" when they dont really have a production shortage as it is? (correct me if im wrong)

Now Intel have the power and money to produce something quite special with its conroe core and its seems like they will do just that but in contrast they must be shaking in their boots about why AMD has decided to upgrade its dresden facilitys with a casual 6bn.

peace out! hope you all can see where im comming from.

+ im not an AMD fanboy its just the way i currently see it




RE: Here is the deal
By Phynaz on 4/19/2006 10:07:11 AM , Rating: 2
If AMD had a new core ready to go in six or nine months they would screaming it from the rooftop to counter Conroe hype. The idea is to freeze the market and create FUD about your competitors product.


RE: Here is the deal
By milnerw on 4/19/2006 10:21:42 AM , Rating: 2
even so it could be another hidden wonder like the secrecy behind ati's 9700 when it 1st hit the shops.


RE: Here is the deal
By steller2k on 4/25/2006 6:51:30 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
If AMD had a new core ready to go in six or nine months they would screaming it from the rooftop to counter Conroe hype. The idea is to freeze the market and create FUD about your competitors product.


Not neccessarily, AMD has a commanding lead right and shipping near as many CPUs as they produce then rumor of a substantially faster chip on the horizon would nearly freeze the sales of their most lucrative products: FX-60, X2 4800+, etc. Bear in mind that AMD has been extremely tight lipped about future plans and has had a near 4 year run with their current crop of processors. As some one else has said, it took them this long to gain marketshare: they are going to be careful not to shoot themselves in the foot. On the other hand, they have had that amount time to come up with something better and I'm not just talking dual-core as that was the plan for the K8 core from the start. I wouldn't be surprised to see something waiting in the wings from AMD, though what that is, or more importantly when that is; I have no idea.

The time for AMD to make the news with something truly new is just before, during, and after the Conroe launch. Provided it lives up to the hype (which I hope it will, we could use a new round of aggressive price cutting). All the better to steal Intel's thunder.

So far as that goes, the sooner the better, I think my SK8N is getting ready to die on me and I've been hanging on for too long waiting for the "next big thing."


RE: Here is the deal
By Zanfib on 4/19/2006 10:19:55 AM , Rating: 2
That's more like your conspiracy theory then just a theory...
I guess all the media people have been lying to us about AMD and Intel's plans? Better get your tin-foil hat out...


RE: Here is the deal
By xsilver on 4/19/2006 10:30:15 AM , Rating: 2
amd had always been struggling in terms of production power compared to intel, they really needed this 6bn fab --

it gives them 350mm wafers which will save them heaps of $$$
what you're thinking is that that their shrink to 65nm in '07 will boost their performance substancially -- we'll just have to wait and see


RE: Here is the deal
By dgingeri on 4/19/2006 11:11:56 AM , Rating: 2
AM2 is partly to prepare for the upcoming quad core chips, but not entirely. it is also to allow for the use of DDR2 memory, which should come down in price very shortly to the point where DDR2-800 is cheaper than DDR-400. Most importantly, it will be a mildly faster platform for cheaper. That is what we are looking for, isn't it? The motherboards and ships will come down in price quickly to be as cheap as socket 939, and the full systems will be cheaper and perform as well, and better in some areas, compared to the socket939. Let's face it, they are not in business to satisfy us, the enthusiasts who upgrade individual parts, they are in business to build full computers for the masses that perform better than the competition at better prices. That is the whole point. AM2 is not a change made for us, but for the masses.


RE: Here is the deal ( actual whats more likely )
By hstewarth on 4/19/06, Rating: 0
RE: Here is the deal ( actual whats more likely )
By meson2000 on 4/19/2006 12:40:32 PM , Rating: 1
This is a joke right? Conroe is Intel's attempt to provide a distraction from AMD's upcoming AM2 processors. I wouldn't put too much faith in a lone article on a french news site as proof that AMD is attemping to steal Intel's thunder..... Sorry, you have to try harder next time....


RE: Here is the deal ( actual whats more likely )
By Phynaz on 4/19/2006 12:48:31 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Conroe is Intel's attempt to provide a distraction from AMD's upcoming AM2 processors


Yeah, Intel is going to spend billions to make a distraction?

Congrats, you are one of the few people who can leave me speechless.


By glennpratt on 4/20/2006 6:00:24 PM , Rating: 2
No, the development is good. Trying to get out questionable benchmarks long, long before any product will be available... thats a distraction play. The point is, that IS what Intel is doing, AMD might be too, or some crackpot in france made it all up to get some hits.

It is funny that he leaves you 'speechless'. Thats pretty cool.


RE: Here is the deal ( actual whats more likely )
By hstewarth on 4/19/2006 4:53:28 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
This is a joke right? Conroe is Intel's attempt to provide a distraction from AMD's upcoming AM2 processors. I wouldn't put too much faith in a lone article on a french news site as proof that AMD is attemping to steal Intel's thunder..... Sorry, you have to try harder next time....


No.No.. Actually you got it all it all wrong. AMD announcement is distraction from up and coming Intel Conroe's processors. Conroe is when thing really change. A new Era of CPU's are coming.

Of course you will never agree with me on this one.. so we must agree to disagree on it.

Time will show the difference. I truely expecting that the performance on Dual Xeon 5160 (3Ghz Woodcrest) that I planned to build this summer to be 3 to 6 times ( likely more ) than my current 3.2Ghz P4. Keep in mind Woodcrest is different level of machine than Conroe's. Conroes will be the fastest desktops around, but the Woodcrest ( Xeon 5160 ) will make the Conroe look slow. Especially with SAS drives, FD-Dimms and dual indepenent bus. Likely we will not see this level of performance on desktop until 2008.


By glennpratt on 4/20/2006 6:03:14 PM , Rating: 2
Man, this sounds like religious prophecy. It's a freakin processor... we'll see when we see. By working yourself up into a tizy, you just play into thier hands.

Just try to keep a level head.


By hstewarth on 4/25/2006 12:28:52 AM , Rating: 1
Actual not. It just a good feeling that something is finally happening in advancement of computer chips. The last year or two has been really dry with advancements.

Wonder why I still have AGP on my systems.


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