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They may consider games like Nintendo Wii and Dance Dance Revolution for physical training purposes

The Navy has frequently been seen in the headlines  for advancements made from using hardware technology to get its aircraft and fighting vehicles into shape; it may now turn to software technology to get its newest recruits in motion and out onto the playing field.

Navy officials are weighing in on using interactive video games like the Nintendo Wii and
Dance Dance Revolution to help new enlistees build up endurance and get past boot camp.   There is a growing concern that those who are currently enlisting require more work to get into shape than was needed with past recruits.  Officials are attributing it to a more sedentary lifestyle.

Recent studies indicate that the Wii has little effect on family fitness, but that has not stopped the Navy from heavily considering the possibility of using interactive games in the training of its recruits.   According to the
Navy Times, Navy Surgeon General Vice Adm. Adam Robinson believes that most young people prefer computers and video games to sports and other physical activities.  Using interactive video games, in conjunction with traditional training could help new recruits when it comes to endurance, Robinson said.

"There are lots of programs now that people can [use to] become very physically active while they’re using interactive computer games," said Robinson. "So, in other words, this isn’t about [starting] with computers and stopping [everything else] — because we’re not going to do that. This is about incorporating those types of activities into something that people can use to become more physically active."

Robinson added  that there has been an issue in terms of physical fitness.  More new recruits are injured in basic training because they are not used to the amount of standing and running that is required and they have found that women in boot camp suffer more bone injuries than in the past, Robinson said.

"There have been more fractures and femur fractures and long-bone fractures in some of our young female recruits, and that’s related to the amount of activity and a sedentary lifestyle that they’ve had before they’ve entered the service and then the uptick in physical activity after they’re in the service."

The plan is still in the early stages and there is no timeline set for video game use in basic training.

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By AssBall on 5/28/2010 7:29:50 AM , Rating: 2
Make a 7 minute mile run and a (1) pull-up mandatory requirements for high school graduation.

Okay, maybe that's draconian, but it would sure help.

RE: P.E.
By Spivonious on 5/28/2010 8:11:31 AM , Rating: 3
1 pull-up, sure, but I think a 7 minute mile is little fast for the average high schooler. Maybe 9 minutes. We had some people in our class who took 15-20 minutes, although they couldn't/wouldn't run the whole time.

RE: P.E.
By Spivonious on 5/28/2010 8:12:11 AM , Rating: 2
I'd be happy if they just put gym class back to 3 times a week. My local high school does it one day a week for half the year.

RE: P.E.
By ClownPuncher on 5/28/2010 11:39:33 AM , Rating: 2
Wow, things have changed in 10 years. I had PE 3 times a week, though it was an elective after sophomore year.

People ask, "Why should I take PE if it doesn't teach me job skills?" to which I say, being in shape, maintaining proper metabolism, and generally being a little more fit than the average has many benefits in the job world. More oxygen to the brain, not getting tired right after lunch, being able to fight off cold/flu easier etc etc..

RE: P.E.
By Obujuwami on 5/28/2010 11:47:57 AM , Rating: 3
I, sir, Agree with you. Right outta high school i was 6'1" and a trim 240...10 years later I'm sitting in my chair 6-8 hours a day doing IT and I get barely any exercise because of work and family commitments. I gained 80lbs...that's 320 for that can't do math and I have all the problems you spoke of. I just wish my job gave me a treadmill so I could walk and work.

RE: P.E.
By sleepeeg3 on 5/28/10, Rating: 0
RE: P.E.
By monomer on 5/28/2010 1:06:59 PM , Rating: 2
Instead of just exercise, they should also teach basic nutrition in schools as well. I know at my school they did try to throw in some nutritional information in the half-semester cooking class everyone had to take and interjected slightly throughout PE whenever the coach would think about it (almost never) but it was really very thin on useful information.

Basically, it boiled down to follow the government food guide, which is actually a decent start which everyone should at least be aware of.

RE: P.E.
By AssBall on 5/28/2010 1:17:14 PM , Rating: 2
This does and can help.

One problem I know happens though is that nutrition ideas seem to change every few years. You can't expect the average high school P.E teacher to keep up on all of it like a college level nutritionist. That and sometimes the current ideas are shown to later be just plain wrong.

RE: P.E.
By MrBlastman on 5/28/2010 8:55:43 AM , Rating: 2
I can vouch for the 7 minute mile. I was only ever able to do 8 and I'm pretty darned slim and trim (I was in high school too). Even when I did the 8 minute mile, I developed the dry heaves afterwards. This was after running 3 miles in the morning and 3 miles in the night for a four month period, so you'd think I would be able to do a sub 8-minute mile by then.

I couldn't. The reason is actually a bit more obtuse but quite elegant when you know the truth. The truth is I was born with a heart condition. It prevented me from pumping enough blood throughout my body under exertion via stenosis.

If you force high school kids to do a 7 minute mile, there _will_ be some, even though they appear extremely fit (4 hours a day practicing martial arts makes you pretty fit), they still might have underlying physical conditions that prevent them from achieving that goal.

RE: P.E.
By AssBall on 5/28/2010 9:49:54 AM , Rating: 2
There would have to be exceptions of course. But the people with exceptions aren't usually Navy recruited.

And since I don't know very many girls who can do a pull up at all, maybe that arm flex hang or something. And I just threw 7 minutes out there. I know we had to run 20 minutes 3 times a week in P.E. and by the end of highschool most kids had improved their times by 25-40%. I went from 9 to high fives (I blame tennis practice).

It's not so important what standards are decided on, but that there is at least some kind of standard.

RE: P.E.
By rcc on 5/28/2010 11:58:19 AM , Rating: 2
Standards? We can't have standards. They are an insult to the people that can't meet them. After all, "no child left behind" and all that rot.

That was sarcasm if you didn't catch it.

I'm actually more in favor of the "no child held back" program.

RE: P.E.
By monomer on 5/28/2010 12:57:35 PM , Rating: 2
I was talking to a friend who is a primary school teacher (Grade 1-2), and she told me that they are no longer allowed to fail a child since it would be detrimental to their self-esteem. I would imagine that staying back and doing okay in school would be better for your self-esteem than spending the next 12 years struggling to keep up.

RE: P.E.
By AssBall on 5/28/2010 1:23:26 PM , Rating: 2
That and the little retard's parents throw a damn fit to the school board if they are failed. My mother and 4 of my Aunts are teachers and say this happens all the time. They say the parents and school administration politics are usually a bigger problem than the child.

RE: P.E.
By Totally on 5/30/2010 4:36:52 PM , Rating: 2
3 mile am/pm runs only train endurance not speed. To shave seconds off your time you'll need to mix it up and with some anaerobic exercises like mountain climbers, flutter kicks, bicycle kicks, even swimming laps in pool. Once you build up you build up your leg muscles, learn to breath, proper form, and how to stay mentally focused. Mile times from High-6s to mid-7s shouldn't be all that hard to achieve. I don't remember my last mile time, but right now my mile and a half time is right at 9:30 and even with me slowing down the the final quarter. Running set distances regularly does nothing to help you improve, just maintains whatever level you are at.

RE: P.E.
By inperfectdarkness on 5/28/2010 9:03:03 AM , Rating: 2
it would be better if PE was a doctrinal part of education at all levels--and the vast majority of jobs as well.

golf is NOT PE.

RE: P.E.
By MrBlastman on 5/28/2010 9:14:26 AM , Rating: 2
golf is NOT PE.

Have you ever walked a full 18 holes without a cart and carried your own bag the whole way while playing the game?

I guarantee you that you'll be a little sore the next day.

It might not be aerobic exercise but it sure beats the living heck out of sitting on the couch all day and stuffing down potato chips.

RE: P.E.
By Flunk on 5/28/2010 9:56:53 AM , Rating: 2
I have and it's not really very good cardio. Very low impact, the aches are mostly from haveing to hold the bag at uncomfortable angles for a long time. A good bike ride or run is better excersise and will likely hurt less the next day.

RE: P.E.
By sleepeeg3 on 5/28/2010 4:35:23 PM , Rating: 2
You could play 3 rounds of golf every day of your life and not be able to run a 7 minute mile. In one round, you walk about 5 miles and burn about 500 calories, but it doesn't stress your heart. You need to keep your heart rate at 60-80% of your maximum for at least 15-20 minutes to start building cardiovascular muscle.

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