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Eric Schmidt and Larry Page play the blame game at Google Zeitgeist.  (Source: TechRadar)
Larry Page says that battery should last for a day if apps aren't overworking the processor

Google's Android platform may be the hottest player on the cell phone market, having recently passed Apple in the U.S. market, but it's by no means the perfect platform.  Recently there have been concerns about the battery life of Android smartphones, which reportedly isn't measuring up to the rival iPhone's.

The top executives at Google tackled that issue at Google Zeitgeist, Google's outreach summit for developers.  Google's co-founder Larry Page blamed app developers, stating, "I have noticed there are a few people who have phones where there is software running in the background that just sort of exhausts the battery quickly. If you are not getting a day, there is something wrong."

Google CEO Eric Schmidt chimed in, clarifying the issue on battery drain.  He stated, "The primary consumer of the battery life on these phones is the transmit/receive circuit. So tuning that and obviously figuring out a way to not use too much of that extends your battery life.  And people bring in applications that are not particularly smart about that, which is what Larry is trying to get at."

Mr. Page quipped back, "We can give you a bigger battery probably. I'll see you afterwards."

The concerning thing is that according to some reports, Android's battery life is draining rather quickly even when in standby or idle -- with no apps running (aside from the core phone apps) and no data being transmitted.  Fortunately for Google, these reports seem to be putting little damper on Android phone sales.  

Android 2.2 is about to make its debut, bringing with it Flash (hopefully that doesn't cause
further battery issues).  And the hot HTC EVO 4G, the world's first 4G smartphone, will make its debut on the Sprint network early next month.



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RE: Um, just get a second battery
By MrX8503 on 5/19/2010 9:46:00 AM , Rating: 5
Fix the battery problem through software, not hardware. Swapping a new battery in is inconvenient, costs more, and is inefficient. Lets be smart and solve the battery issue through development, not be lazy and throw more replaceable batteries at it.


RE: Um, just get a second battery
By chris2618 on 5/19/2010 9:56:45 AM , Rating: 3
its not inconvenient if you forgot to put your phone on charge the night before. you can just slip in that spare battery. i liked the older MP3 with AAA batterys just carry a spare just incase it runs out


RE: Um, just get a second battery
By MrX8503 on 5/19/2010 10:02:55 AM , Rating: 2
AAA batteries and carrying extra spare batteries just in case?

Are we still stuck in the early 90's? Let's move forward to the 21st century people. No wonder battery tech sucks, you're perfectly fine with carrying EXTRA batteries?

How about we increase battery tech and efficiency instead of carrying extra crap?


RE: Um, just get a second battery
By Reclaimer77 on 5/19/2010 10:25:44 AM , Rating: 5
quote:
How about we increase battery tech and efficiency instead of carrying extra crap?


Yeah because nobody is trying to do that. You're right. Battery tech is clearly a completely barren field that needs to be looked into. Why hasn't anybody thought of this before??

/sarcasm


RE: Um, just get a second battery
By leexgx on 5/19/2010 7:48:30 PM , Rating: 2
i done one thing that an iphone cant do put an bat thats 90% bigger (2300 bat the default 1200 bat just plane sucks and tmoble users had Loads of complaints about it not lasting more then 4-8hrs, the Iphone is the same and if that bat F up your screwed as its not user replaceable £$£$ for apple), i get a lot more use out of my G1 phone now with out having to remember that i need to plug it in when i get into my car

ok its made the phone bigger but it lasts 2-3days now with 3g turnd on all the time i can watch long videos and not need to turn to the Plug (iphone should be called Iplug as most of my friends who use the iphone most likely will not get an new one unless they fix the batt issues, HTC need to do the same)

Smart-phone makers should be using bigger capacity battery's, yes if fine if you make 1-2 phone calls an day but, orange in the UK are just an Joke on saying how long the bat will last an HTC HD1 can not stay on for 15 days more like 2-3 days if 3g is turned off light phone use no apps running or video


RE: Um, just get a second battery
By afkrotch on 5/19/2010 8:28:44 PM , Rating: 2
They have increased battery tech and efficiency, but it's still nice to be able to use a spare battery.

Guess what? Zero mobile devices (under load) can make it on those 10+ hour flights and I'd like to have the option to swap out batteries. My laptop has 2 batteries, my PSP has 2 batteries, I even carry 2 mp3 players. And you know what? All these devices have much higher battery life than the stuff from before.

Battery tech isn't going to magically move into the future. R&D, testing, etc. It takes time. In the meanwhile, I'd like spare batteries.


RE: Um, just get a second battery
By Reclaimer77 on 5/19/2010 10:12:39 AM , Rating: 3
It's still a viable option. An option you do NOT have with Apple. He should not be down rated by stupid fanboi's for pointing out the obvious.


RE: Um, just get a second battery
By lelias2k on 5/19/10, Rating: -1
RE: Um, just get a second battery
By Reclaimer77 on 5/19/2010 11:05:17 AM , Rating: 2
Is that a statement about my political beliefs ?? Because we've been trying you "forward thinking" options for over 60 years now. Look what it's got us.


RE: Um, just get a second battery
By lelias2k on 5/19/10, Rating: 0
RE: Um, just get a second battery
By afkrotch on 5/19/2010 8:32:39 PM , Rating: 2
Really? What countries? It's more like we're all just merging together. No one is surpassing the other, as the others are just using parts from each other.


RE: Um, just get a second battery
By weskurtz0081 on 5/19/2010 11:08:13 AM , Rating: 3
Who said anything about being stuck with old ideas? From my experience, the iPhone hasn't solved the battery life issue with better software, it's still a power hungry device that doesn't get good battery life.

So, what the heck is wrong with having a replaceable battery while simultaneously trying to make software more power efficient? Clearly, no smart phones have incredibly power efficient apps yet, not even the iPhone, so at least in this case you can replace a battery if you need to.


RE: Um, just get a second battery
By MrX8503 on 5/19/2010 11:45:49 AM , Rating: 2
Someone was talking about carrying around AAA batteries. That was what I was referring to.

Carrying extra batteries is fine, but its just a bandaid to the problem. We need to look at hardware/software optimization and even battery tech. Extra batteries is a lame excuse of poor performance.

Its like saying, my car isn't fuel efficient, so I'll just carry extra gallons of gas in my trunk. Its backwards thinking.


RE: Um, just get a second battery
By weskurtz0081 on 5/19/2010 12:17:33 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, better battery technology would help, as well as more efficient software.

However, those two thing won't change today's reality. These smart phones do not have good battery life, both Apple and Android based. Right now, the only real solution is staying close to power or extra batteries. That's reality.

Now, of course we still need to push forward with better battery tech and better software, but it's not going to change the fact that the only thing to make it better right now is extra batteries or staying close to power.


RE: Um, just get a second battery
By lelias2k on 5/19/2010 1:14:16 PM , Rating: 1
Hmmm, the article is about Google's outreach summit for developers.

OK, let's just tell all developers to forget about development. Ppl can just get a second battery.

How about keeping it within context???


RE: Um, just get a second battery
By weskurtz0081 on 5/19/2010 1:46:58 PM , Rating: 2
So, why don't you take it to the person that started it? I was just commenting on an already running conversation.


RE: Um, just get a second battery
By lelias2k on 5/19/2010 6:32:53 PM , Rating: 1
I'd think replying to the thread implies that it is for everybody...


RE: Um, just get a second battery
By leexgx on 5/19/2010 7:54:27 PM , Rating: 2
why buy spare battery when you can just buy one battery anything above 2000mAh works fine i got an 2300mHa battery yes its made the phone fatter but i can use it as it was intended to be used now (you brake most covers on HTC if you had to keep on changing the batteries)

i think you can get up to 1600 that does not make the phone fatter that should get you day and an half or 2


RE: Um, just get a second battery
By GaryJohnson on 5/19/2010 11:01:07 AM , Rating: 3
That's not accurate. There are external batteries available for apple devices, like this one:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/c9f0/


RE: Um, just get a second battery
By leexgx on 5/19/2010 7:56:56 PM , Rating: 2
be better if they made it go behind the iphone makes it look like an long brick prefer it to be fatter the longer


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