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"Man I love HTML5, but that Flash really gives me a headache!" "Me too, Steve, oh my gosh!!"  (Source: Coder Log)
Microsoft also supports use of proprietary video codec -- h.264

Proponents of HTML5, a hot new web standard that adds video and audio capabilities to the HTML stable, say that it is essential to free the web from the proprietary clutches of Adobe, maker of Flash.  Critics says that it's just a pretty box for another proprietary offering.  They point out that while HTML5 as an open standard could support open video standards like Ogg Theora, all the industry' major players have embraced h.264 -- a proprietary video codec -- as the future of HTML5, essentially killing the hopes of widespread support or adoption of an open codec.

Apple is a big fan of h.264 and a big fan of HTML5.  It doesn't think much of Adobe, though.

Perhaps a more important question, though, is where does Microsoft, who holds more than 90 percent of the operating system market, stand on this issue?   

Interestingly, in a blog to web developers, Microsoft's General Manager for Internet Explorer, Dean Hachamovitch agrees with Apple's assessment.  He states that HTML5 is the "future of the web".  He then proceeds to toss dirt at Adobe, commenting that their "reliability, security, and performance" haven't been so great.

He then softens the blow a bit, remarking that Flash is important to "a good consumer experience on today's web" -- but only because there's not many alternatives widely available currently (most users use Internet Explorer, which doesn't currently support HTML5).

Interestingly, in the talk the Microsoft exec totally ignores Microsoft's own proprietary plug-in Silverlight that it's long been trying to peddle.

Microsoft and Apple agreeing on HTML5?  Microsoft following "Apple's line" with the Windows Phone 7 smart phone operating system?  Windows 7 being fully supported on Boot Camp?  You'd think that Microsoft and Apple were old buddies, not bitter rivals.  What's the world coming to?

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I'd like to point out..
By omnicronx on 4/30/2010 12:10:20 PM , Rating: 2
They point out that while HTML5 as an open standard could support open video standards like Ogg Theora, all the industry' major players have embraced h.264
Well its too bad I'm going to have to point out that they are wrong, all the major players that have nothing to lose by using a proprietary codec are supporting h264. I'm pretty sure the Firefox team (and you know, any true open source player) would disagree with their statements.

I vote HTML5, but unless we can get something in writing that says there will never be licensing fees on web based h264 video, its not going to be a good idea in the long run.
I'm sure they can find a happy medium somewhere..

Seems like one big player (Google) may change their stance, there are rumors that they may open source their VP8 codec. Has alot of the upside that ogg Theora was missing, but would not have any licensing issues to worry about like h264.

RE: I'd like to point out..
By ats on 4/30/2010 5:34:46 PM , Rating: 1
By open source player do you mean VLC, MPC, etc? libavcodec? ffdshow? yeah, all support h264. Do you mean the universally regarded best h264 encoder, x264 which is also open source?

Ogg Theora is about 10-15 years too late. It's quality is substandard, its container is crap, and it feature set is uncompetitive.

And anyone who things that just because a codec doesn't have a licensing committee that it is patent free, is sadly mistaken, hello JPEG, VC-1, etc.

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