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Steve Jobs has had enough of Adobe Flash and wants the world to move on and embrace HTML5

It's no secret that Steve Jobs is no fan of Adobe Flash -- Jobs basically kneecapped Flash development tools with iPhone OS 4.0. In addition, Jobs has long said that Flash on Mac computers is slow, buggy, and an incredible resource hog.

We all thought that the relationship between Apple and Adobe was beginning to thaw a bit when Apple announced that it would make hardware acceleration APIs available to developers like Adobe. That lead the way for yesterday's announcement of Flash Player 10.1 "Gala" for OS X which provides hardware acceleration of H.264 video content on Macs with NVIDIA GeForce 9400M, GeForce 320M, or GeForce GT 330M GPUs.

But that isn't quite the end of the story. In fact, Steve Jobs has even more to say about Adobe Flash in the form of an open letter entitled "Thoughts on Flash". Jobs' long-winded rant goes on about the fact that Adobe Flash is proprietary; HTML5 is a better, open solution; the fact that Flash is a security risk to Mac computers; and that Adobe Flash simply eats away battery life on notebook computers (among other things).

Here's a blurb on Adobe Flash being proprietary:

Adobe’s Flash products are 100% proprietary. They are only available from Adobe, and Adobe has sole authority as to their future enhancement, pricing, etc. While Adobe’s Flash products are widely available, this does not mean they are open, since they are controlled entirely by Adobe and available only from Adobe. By almost any definition, Flash is a closed system.

Apple has many proprietary products too. Though the operating system for the iPhone, iPod and iPad is proprietary, we strongly believe that all standards pertaining to the web should be open. Rather than use Flash, Apple has adopted HTML5, CSS and JavaScript – all open standards. Apple’s mobile devices all ship with high performance, low power implementations of these open standards.

And here's another section with regards to Adobe Flash and its interaction with touch-based devices:

Flash was designed for PCs using mice, not for touch screens using fingers. For example, many Flash websites rely on “rollovers”, which pop up menus or other elements when the mouse arrow hovers over a specific spot. Apple’s revolutionary multi-touch interface doesn’t use a mouse, and there is no concept of a rollover. Most Flash websites will need to be rewritten to support touch-based devices. If developers need to rewrite their Flash websites, why not use modern technologies like HTML5, CSS and JavaScript?

Jobs concludes, saying, "Flash was created during the PC era – for PCs and mice… But the mobile era is about low power devices, touch interfaces and open web standards – all areas where Flash falls short."

"New open standards created in the mobile era, such as HTML5, will win on mobile devices (and PCs too)," Jobs adds. "Perhaps Adobe should focus more on creating great HTML5 tools for the future, and less on criticizing Apple for leaving the past behind."

The fight between Adobe and Apple is definitely not over and we'll just have to sit back and wait to see what Adobe's response to Jobs will be.

For those that want to read the full letter, head on over to Apple's website.



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Ironic
By Reclaimer77 on 4/29/2010 10:52:37 AM , Rating: 5
Jobs says:

quote:
Adobe’s Flash products are 100% proprietary. They are only available from Adobe, and Adobe has sole authority as to their future enhancement, pricing, etc. While Adobe’s Flash products are widely available, this does not mean they are open, since they are controlled entirely by Adobe and available only from Adobe. By almost any definition, Flash is a closed system.


Hey buddy, look in the mirror! Even if I wanted to, which I don't, why can't I run OSX on my PC ??

So basically, according to Jobs, if the author of software continues to DEVELOP said software, it's a closed system. No matter who, what, when, where, and how it's available to everyone.

HUH ??

I would like to know the REAL reasons behind this mans asinine and hypocritical rant against Flash. Because his reasoning falls horribly short. Is he really convinced the entire world should change just because he made a few mobile touch devices? Is the mouse now a complete thing of the past in his mind? Does he really NOT understand that HTML5 is NOT a full featured development suite capable of delivering complete software as feature rich as Flash?

You know more and more these days I take pleasure in one fact: that baring accident or wrongdoing, if I take decent care of myself I WILL live to see Steve Job's death.




RE: Ironic
By msheredy on 4/29/10, Rating: -1
RE: Ironic
By Reclaimer77 on 4/29/2010 11:34:30 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Quick someone get this guy a life! Seriously dude you need to move on because that last sentence was just plain stupid.


Why? Look the guy's had a good run. Rich, successful, respected by millions of computer illiterate people world wide. But, the man has annoyed me and bla bla bla. So he's got to go.


RE: Ironic
By msheredy on 4/29/2010 2:02:24 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Why?


How about why didn't you answer my first question?

Your apparent dislike for anything Apple/Steve Jobs proves that I cannot reason with you. Have a great rest of your life being pissed at someone whom you have never met. I feel sorry for you.


RE: Ironic
By Reclaimer77 on 4/29/2010 2:59:13 PM , Rating: 3
I actually need to answer that? Job's statement is the very definition of hypocritical. Apple products are ENTIRELY, from top to bottom, proprietary. Hell in most cases you have to go through Apple to even purchase them, have them serviced, or have batteries replaced etc etc. Even on the software side, they have locked everything down with their "Ap stores".

So no, I wasn't actually going to answer your first question because it was a waste of time. Thanks for wasting my time.


RE: Ironic
By Pirks on 4/29/10, Rating: -1
RE: Ironic
By SkullOne on 4/29/2010 12:21:14 PM , Rating: 5
Decent code? Apple writes shit code just like the rest of them. What about the current DHCP fuck up with the iPad? Or how about the SMS issue with iPhone that was left open for way to long just so they could have a PR day after the exploit was announced to the world? What about the recent patch that was nearly 800MB?

Yeah, their better coders then anybody else. /sarcasm

Jobs is on this rant simply because Flash is a direct competitor to the Apple cash cow that is the App Store. Plain and simple. Mobile Flash 10.1 would allow people to write a single app that could be used across any smartphone complete with ads so that they can maximize revenue.

Instead his "holiness" Jobs will spew bile and bullshit till he keels over claiming they are the best at everything in order to keep their system completely closed off and hamstringing developers.

Apple is as proprietary as they come and this rant just helps prove it.


RE: Ironic
By Alexstarfire on 4/29/2010 1:31:09 PM , Rating: 1
I think you need to take a look at some history. For the longest time the only thing the GPU was really used for was games and picture editing. It hasn't been until the last 2-3 years that they started offloading things like video encoding to the GPU. Everybody has basically been jumping on the bandwagon since then.

I haven't had problems running flash since IDK when. Laptops/mobile devices might be more of an issue since battery life will be affected, but battery life is going to be affected when you're doing anything more than sitting on the desktop. How much is actually wasted... IDK.


RE: Ironic
By NanoTube1 on 4/29/2010 5:15:51 PM , Rating: 1
Adobe's coders don't suck. Take Photoshop as an example - it's one of the best applications ever written and it keeps getting better.

It's just the flash side of Adobe that sucks on Mac OS X.


RE: Ironic
By Pirks on 4/30/2010 10:39:49 AM , Rating: 1
It sucks in Windows too so Adobe Flash coders suck dick


RE: Ironic
By alanore on 4/29/2010 11:46:47 AM , Rating: 5
Its easy, Flash would allow Apps onto the iPhone/iPad without going through Apple's iStore. All you would need to do is visit a website and press full screen. This would mean that Apple wouldn't have absolute control over its platform, or from the revenue that Apps generate.

That is why Apple embrace Flash on OS-X even allowing it to use hardware acceleration, yet it wont allow flash any where near locked down iStores devices.


RE: Ironic
By cfaalm on 4/29/2010 3:15:39 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I WILL live to see Steve Job's death.


Any ideas how the man will go down in history? Plenty to go around.

The man who lived to see Flash die. Did he?
The man who got sold us >$500 computers.
The man who got us hooked on nifty little handheld iStuff.
The man who put back the I in the i.
The man who welded the computer shut.
The man who died so rich because he overcharged anyone else.
The man who sued EVERYONE over alledged patents.

More suggestions welcome.


RE: Ironic
By noirsoft on 4/29/2010 8:12:53 PM , Rating: 2
Steve Jobs: iHole


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