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Avatar continues to rake in truckloads of cash
Fans with some Samsung Blu-ray players may not be able to watch

Avatar became the highest grossing film ever when it hit theaters last year. The film drew huge crowds and while it lined the coffers of 20th Century Fox and the wallet of James Cameron, the movie drew lots of interest to 3D in theaters and homes. Even though the film garnered lots of fans, it also had a few critics including the U.S. Marine Corps.

20th Century Fox has announced that Avatar is the best selling movie in America on both Blu-ray and DVD. The film is also the best selling Blu-ray movie of all time with 2.7 million copies sold in only four days on store shelves in North America alone. The previous record was 2.5 million units. 

In all,
Avatar has sold 6.5 million copies (DVD + Blu-ray) since it launched on Thursday of last week. The downside to the popularity of Avatar on Blu-ray is that some buyers of the movie are finding that the Blu-ray disc won’t play on some players on the market.

The specific player cited in reports is the Samsung BD-UP5000. The reason the player reportedly can’t play
Avatar is because of a firmware update that is missing and needed by the device. Other Samsung Blu-ray players are also facing the same issue. Presumably, Samsung will be rushing the update out for the players since the Avatar is so popular.

Some users are claiming that it's not a firmware issue, but some sort of DRM issue with the movie itself pointing the finger at 20th Century Fox rather than Samsung.



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RE: why?
By Reclaimer77 on 4/26/2010 6:42:10 PM , Rating: 0
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people like yourself went into this movie with these huge expectations


Huh? I didn't go see this piece of shit, are you kidding me? Please!


RE: why?
By powerincarnate on 4/26/2010 10:54:56 PM , Rating: 2
I came late to this conversation, but if you didn't go see the movie, then this whole argument is moot.

Now, to throw in my two cents. People often times wonder things like why is Final Fantasy VII so loved, why do so many people buy the iphone, why was star wars so loved, why do so many people buy the japanese cars (minus recent issues, but honda, toyata, and to a lesser extent nissan). And now avatar.

Reason is because they usually do a lot of things right, and not a lot of things wrong. For example, was the ipod the first mp3 player, no but they sure did a lot of good things from ease of use to marketing so that it didn't even need to be the best, but good enough, easy to use good marketing = money. same with iphone, I had the nokia n95 at that time and now I have the n900 but even though it is cheaper in the long run, it has already been proven that the general populace will not put up 550 or 600 or 700 bucks up front for a phone. iphone was easy to use. At the time had like the largest screen by far on a readily accessible phone, could be used as an ipod and had great marketing. same issues with cars, or street fighter success vs. Virtua Fighter (i love that game) failures, and so forth. Which brings me to movies.

The cheap indie film that is boring as hell, but maybe had some good "technical" acting doesn't sell. People don't give a SH#$ about technical acting. Star Wars had some poor acting, the prequals were even worse, but that didn't stop Star Wars from being a mega hit, and it's two sequals continuing it. Which then prompted the eventual sequals.

The Hurt Locker won best picture, some people said it wasn't an accurate description of what happens in IRAQ, that include military people, but it still won. But it didn't make money, ask someone in the streets, and I bet 75% of them won't even know what it is, they probably can't even tell you it won. Others like the English Patient, which won as well, i tried to watch and it was BORING as HELL, that was when I was a teenager, who knows now, if I might change, but that was 12 years ago and it was a snore fest.

Which brings me to the most important point. THE NUMBER ONE ROLL OF A MOVIE, or game for that matter, is to entertain you, and to entertain as many a you as possible. If a movie has good acting but wasn't entertaining then it sucks, plain and simple.

People say Avatar was all hype, No it wasn't, it opened up to just 78 million dollars in the US. That is good, but there are a boat load of movies that opened up to much higher results. The differences is that Avatar had a huge word of mouth afterwards, and thus it only dropped to 75 the next week, then a bit less the following week and so forth. Instead of openning to 115 then dropping to 60s like others, only to be in the teens by week 4.

Finally, People often times give disney, pixars, dreamworks movies a free pass. Was UP's visuals better, was the acting and writing better??? What about the cliche's was Kung Fu Panda, or Nemo, or Incredibles somehow original movies. It is 2010 now, for the most part, EVERY MOVIE you see will have themes of movies prior. It is how it is implemented and how entertaining it is that really matters, and Avatar has proven via 2.8 billion dollars that it is pretty damn entertaining.

If you don't think so, then your in the minority, there has never been a movie that was 100% liked, and there never will be.


RE: why?
By Reclaimer77 on 4/27/2010 2:40:57 AM , Rating: 2
TLDNR


RE: why?
By therealnickdanger on 4/27/2010 8:35:04 AM , Rating: 2
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TLDNR

I thought you liked substance over flash...? LOL

Look, man, it's clear you're just a hater, plain and simple. You admit you haven't seen the movie which means that your opinion about said movie is irrelevant. You have formed your opinion based solely upon the sensationalized reports in the media.

Avatar carries a stigma because its technological aspects completely overshadow its seen-before, tried-and-true plot. Also, because of some overly sensitive folks that don't pay attention to said plot, they believe it has some sort of anti-military Iraq message. The plot really isn't bad, though it is predictable and a bit silly. Cameron made his hypocritical bias known to the world years ago (and it saturates this entire movie), but it has not affected his ability to make an effectively entertaining movie that is well worth the price of admission... at least once.


RE: why?
By Reclaimer77 on 4/27/2010 2:59:05 PM , Rating: 2
I haven't read "War and Peace", but I know it's a landmark novel. I haven't seen Avatar, but I'm intimately familiar with the story, plot background, and how the visuals are used to tell the story.

quote:
You have formed your opinion based solely upon the sensationalized reports in the media.


That makes no sense. The "Media" sensation of Avatar has all been overwhelmingly positive. Where are you coming from with this ??

quote:
The plot really isn't bad, though it is predictable and a bit silly.


That's putting it mildly. The plot is simple tripe, for simple minded people. No offense, but if you enjoyed Avatar you simply aren't a big thinker. Because anyone who is would HAVE to be offended by how the movie insults your intelligence and attempts to pull your heartstrings at every turn.

I just have a hard time getting past how manipulative and simple the story is. The Na'vi are way too peaceful and harmonious for a primitive culture. And the military was way too simplistic and destructive for an advanced culture. It's a comical stereotype, a crewcut wearing racist white man. After 200 years and human evolution and the development of space travel, the military is apparently still stuck in the 18'th Century mindset in terms of cultural understanding. For one, it's kind of insulting to the military today given the obvious allegory driving the message of the movie. And two, it's a little too easy and convenient. There's no middle ground. And the ultimate irony is that with all the time and money spent making this a 3D movie, the story and characters are stuck in one dimension.


RE: why?
By therealnickdanger on 4/28/2010 11:24:50 AM , Rating: 2
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That makes no sense. The "Media" sensation of Avatar has all been overwhelmingly positive.

I was referring to the negative media that link the movie to real-world events and culture.

I'm fully aware of Cameron's pessimistic views of humanity and how they are portrayed and displayed in this movie, but you're really reaching with your views (especially since you haven't even seen the movie). To put it simply, if this movie was supposed to be a factual documentary on the Iraq war or the story of Pocahontas, then it would be worth the time and effort to defame it and argue its agenda. However, this is a purely fictional story that borrows, like ALL fiction, from stories we have heard before.

In the name of fun, I will make a few counterpoints.
quote:
The Na'vi are way too peaceful and harmonious for a primitive culture.

We are given a window into really only one tribe of Na'vi. Outside of a miraculous unifying force, we really don't know how they normally interact with other tribes. We know that the Na'vi have weapons and nothing in the movie implies that they never fight one another. All that we do know is that this particular tribe is under assault.
quote:
The Military was way too simplistic and destructive for an advanced culture

The "military" forces depicted were not part of any recognized military force, but rather mercenaries. The movie itself describes them as mercenaries, in it only for action and money, not for honor.
quote:
crewcut wearing racist white man

He was the primary antagonist, but there were many other skin colors represented. It was a "diverse" group of mercs.
quote:
After 200 years and human evolution...

Hey man, I'd like to be optimistic about the future, but if history has shown us anything, it's that technology and "evolution" are no guarantees of decreased brutality or increased understanding.
quote:
...story and characters are stuck in one dimension.

LOL I've heard that one many times before. Are you a Red Letter Media fan? haha This isn't a B-movie, it's got some excellent performances - even if they are cliched, they are cliched very well.

My advice: give it a rent (on Blu-Ray, if possible) and relax. You might actually enjoy it if you stop trying to glean meaning from it.


RE: why?
By therealnickdanger on 4/28/2010 6:19:32 PM , Rating: 2
Wow, did I call that one. You almost quoted RLM verbatim:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJarz7BYnHA

C'mon, man! Get your own opinions!


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