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Due to a variety of reasons, some biotechnology scientists are leaving the country to seek employment

Some biotechnology engineers have elected to leave the United States in search of new employment.  South Korea, China, Singapore and Japan are several Asian countries that are successfully pulling away scientists from the US.  The scientists are being drawn away because of a variety of different variables:  more research money, newer and better equipped research labs, and less government restrictions are very appealing to scientists that are not able to find the right company in the US. 

Singapore is doing the best job of recruiting foreign scientists, especially stem scientists.  Funding for embryonic stem cell research in the US has taken a turn for the worst over the past several years, which has caused researchers to try and find work overseas.  Singapore is promising newly recruited scientists that the government will be limited in its pursuit to try and stop research from being done -- a perk that obviously is not available in the US.  The country has recruited 50 senior scientists, but the recruiting spree is far from over.  Along with the senior scientists, over 1,800 scientists from around the world now staff the Singapore Institute for Clinical Sciences.  According to Canoe Money:

The small island country known to some as the place that canes miscreants and has issues with chewing gum has already spent $4 billion US on biotechnology and has committed another $8 billion US through 2010 in a bid to give the United States a run for biomedical supremacy.

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wow very impressive
By bigpimpatl on 4/17/2006 12:20:08 AM , Rating: 3
too bad we are too busy spending money trying to conquer the world...




RE: wow very impressive
By TiVo on 4/17/06, Rating: 0
RE: wow very impressive
By datacore4 on 4/17/2006 3:18:56 AM , Rating: 2
I know you trying hard to be optimistic.......keep at it. A bit of Wishful thinking might also help. Oh wait....you already are.


RE: wow very impressive
By PrinceGaz on 4/17/2006 7:03:42 AM , Rating: 2
"A few scientists leave while eveyone else in the world is trying to get into the America."

Overlooking the grammatical error, why do people like you assume everyone who doesn't live in the US would want to live there? I certainly don't want to move to the US, and I'm sure the vast majority of free-thinking West Europeans like me are of the same opinion. In fact if I did live in the US with their current government, I'd want to leave.


RE: wow very impressive
By poohbear on 4/17/2006 8:51:49 AM , Rating: 2
"I would love for people like you to go live somewhere else for a while. You've probably never been out of your own little town."

rofl actually i've been living in japan for almost 2 years, it's great.

"You do realize there would be no South Korea if it were not for the U.S. don't you?"

what's your point w/ this nationalist drivel? u do realize there'd be no US without britain, right?! and u do realize there'd be no britain without (Norman) france, and no france without Rome, yadda yadda yadda. every civilization takes something from the previous civilization, get over yourself.


RE: wow very impressive
By jtesoro on 4/17/2006 9:51:01 AM , Rating: 2
Well said. "We are like dwarfs, standing on the shoulders of giants."


RE: wow very impressive
By TiVo on 4/17/2006 11:16:55 AM , Rating: 1
My point is that your original statement that the U.S. Is trying to take over the world is ridicilous. It's the same
retoric spewed from brainwashed people who can't come up with anything. It's nice you were able to live in Japan but if it weren't not for th U.S. during WWII I wonder if that would have been possible. Get my point yet?


RE: wow very impressive
By poohbear on 4/18/2006 9:13:17 AM , Rating: 2
"It's nice you were able to live in Japan but if it weren't not for th U.S. during WWII I wonder if that would have been possible."

god will u stop w/ this "if it were'nt for us the world would be a sh$theap" nonsense. The japanese were expanding into asia the same way the americans and brits and french were expanding in asia. America took, yes TOOK, hawaii, guam, and after it kicked out the spanish from the philippines it took the philipines too and killed quite a few of them while refusing to give them independance (the whole "white man's burden" nonsense). I dont have to talk about what britain and france did in asia. the japanese saw others expanding, so they felt it was necessary to do the same, otherwise they'd be expanded into. they were'nt the only imperialists in the area.



RE: wow very impressive
By jskirwin on 4/17/2006 1:20:26 PM , Rating: 1
It's great, eh Poohbear?
Thinking about becoming a citizen of Japan? Well I hope you like Sumo because the only way you are going to become a citizen is by joining a stable and throwing some butt around. Unless of course you wait 20 years, speak the language fluently, and marry Japanese.

Then of course your kids will be called "Half" at school and your in-laws will be ashamed that their daughter married a gaijin.

You're worried about "nationalist drivel" yet live in one of the most nationalistic places on the planet. Patriotism isn't a crime - for Americans or Japanese. You might want to feel some sometime.


RE: wow very impressive
By poohbear on 4/18/2006 9:21:40 AM , Rating: 2
"Then of course your kids will be called "Half" at school and your in-laws will be ashamed that their daughter married a gaijin."

ah and what's the alternative in america? living in a predominantely white, black, asian, or latino neighborhood? yes that's multiculturalism at its finest, maybe japan should do the same. we have a wonderful history of racial tolerance in the US don't we? blacks always intermarry in the south, and from what i've been reading there's going to be a lovely new immigration law for latinos to enjoy. gimme a break. im not defending japan, but it IS a developed country and pretty advanced without the ethnocentrism.


RE: wow very impressive
By poohbear on 4/18/2006 9:27:09 AM , Rating: 2
"Patriotism isn't a crime - for Americans or Japanese"

???!? yes george washington was very patriotic person, so patriotic he decided to revolt against Britain. gimme a break, the founding fathers saw an injustice by the king of england, and refused to be a part of it.

"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism"


RE: wow very impressive
By TiVo on 4/17/2006 11:33:09 AM , Rating: 1
Maybe because more immigrates come here then anywhere else?

So you'd leave your country when you have a government in place you don't like? Wow, it's not like Europe has ever had any bad leaders or anything. Would you like me to name a few?

What's the unemployment rate there anyway?


Speaking from experience...
By HeavyB on 4/17/2006 12:15:38 AM , Rating: 3
The current presidential administration would like for nothing more than to outlaw biological research, turn the NIH into the National Institute of Faith Based Healing, and cram "intelligent design" down the throats of as many people as possible. Its a sad time to be a biological scientist.




RE: Speaking from experience...
By MrHanson on 4/17/2006 10:28:07 AM , Rating: 2
You're right. People forget that in order to understand how the cell/human body works and to be qualified researchers for new cancer and other disease treatments, it is extremely important to believe that man is nothing but the end result of a lucky accident that happened 3.5 billion years ago.


RE: Speaking from experience...
By Decaydence on 4/18/2006 4:48:11 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
it is extremely important to believe that man is nothing but the end result of a lucky accident that happened 3.5 billion years ago.


Not important to take this line of thinking, it is, however, required that a researcher at least have enough intelligence to understand that humanity isn't a result of a magic man in the sky who can create an entire universe but is very mad when we touch ourselves. Furthermore, these researchers should have, at least, enough intelligence to realize that stories written by people who thought the sun rotated around the flat Earth and that women were created from a man's rib probably aren't exactly reliable when it comes to explaining the universe.


RE: Speaking from experience...
By glennpratt on 4/17/2006 10:52:09 AM , Rating: 2
I love thuis post. So over the top it's great. Look, if stem cell research was really some panacea, don't you think a private dollar or two would be interested? Really, unless your a conpiracy theorist, I don't see why people put so much faith in stem cell research.

And seriously, stem cell research continues, more so then it ever did before under the government. And there is no law restricting private research at all. In 2005 the NIH funded $607 million worth of stem cell research. Including $39 million for embryonic research. Now Cali is jumping in with something like $3 Billion. We'll see if it pans out, but I think it will be funny if little comes of it after you spend that kinda cash.


RE: Speaking from experience...
By HeavyB on 4/17/2006 2:39:47 PM , Rating: 2
Poorly spelled and uninformed, just as I would expect.


RE: Speaking from experience...
By Decaydence on 4/18/2006 4:58:45 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Really, unless your a conpiracy theorist, I don't see why people put so much faith in stem cell research.


Hmmm.. This is a brave new argument that stem cell research is a conpiracy; luckily you weren't saying people who believe stem cell research could be fruitful are conspiracy theorists, because that would have just been fucking retarded.

Undifferentiated cells are told by genes to differentiate into specialized cells which make up every aspect of the body. Only a complete moron would imagine that we can identify those genes, manipulate them, and somehow can't use that process to our advantage. The fact of the matter is, the people who want more funding for this are scientists who know what they are talking about, and the people who claim this is a dead end and should be stopped are religious zealots, politicians catering to the religious zealots, and other people who have no idea what they are talking about.

Perhaps your time would be better spent helping with the search for Noah's arc, or scratching pictures of bison on the wall of your cave.


By CSMR on 4/17/2006 12:49:48 AM , Rating: 2
The small island country "known to some" as etc. etc.: known to some incredibly ignorant people that is.




By John Thacker on 4/17/2006 1:04:11 AM , Rating: 2
"Funding for embryonic stem cell research in the US has taken a turn for the worst over the past several years, which has caused researchers to try and find work overseas."

This is factually incorrect. The restrictions on new embryonic stem cell lines has restricted research and caused researchers to try and find work overseas in order to do research, yes. (Although it hasn't hurt cord blood stem cell and adult stem cell research, which, to declare my interest, my mother and brother are both involved in.)

However, it's actually the case that federal funds were only available for the first time ever for embyronic stem cell research in 2001. That's because the research was considered too experimental before then, and because the federal Dickey Amendment prohibited research that destroyed embryos. After private research lead to discoveries in embryonic stem cell research, the Federal government considered the issue and prepared to, for the first time, approve the use of federal money in 2001.

The Clinton Administration took the view that, despite the Dickey Amendment, federal money could go towards research on embryos discarded from <em> in vitro </em> fertilization, but not for embryos created for the express purpose of embryonic stem cell research. The Bush Administration, upon taking office, delayed by several months the scheduled beginning of monies while reviewing the policy, and then devised the current one, whereby money goes to certain lines already discovered, but where no money is available for producing new embryos to be destroyed.

Federal money has continued to increase every year. In addition, California approved a large amount of state-directed money towards embryonic stem cell research in a referendum, and other states have done similar things.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_cell_controversy...

As we can see from the following table, the research money available to human embryonic stem cell research doubled from Fiscal Year 2003 to Fiscal Year 2005, where it has remained stable. Of course, the vast majority of NIH funding for stem cell research goes to adult stem cell and cord blood stem cell research, which currently have more demonstrated successes in live trials. (Though embryonic stem cells have arguably greater "upside.")

http://www.nih.gov/news/fundingresearchareas.htm




Biotech?
By android1st on 4/17/2006 2:15:43 AM , Rating: 2
Who says biotechnology = stem cell research? There are plenty of applications and opportunities that have no ethical issues whatsoever.

I do agree with what an above poster stated, simply that there really aren't that many researchers or scientists choosing to go overseas to work.




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