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Palm reportedly has 1.5 million unsold Palm Pre and Pixi units. It has halted sales, a sign of the company's deep problems.  (Source: Palm via VentureBeat)
Bad news continues for veteran mobile device maker

Palm, maker of the Pre and Pixi smartphones, is facing desperate times.

American Banking News
 has reported that Palm's production halt continues as it is unable to sell the stockpile of webOS handsets it has built up.  There's no official word from Palm, but the announcement seems likely to be true as Palm stock plunged 30 percent to around $4 a share following the news.

Palm has a rich history and helped to launch the PDA and smartphone movements.  Lately, it has struggled to keep up with Apple iPhone and Research in Motion Blackberry smartphones.  And smartphones have largely killed the market for PDAs, so Palm can no longer seek refuge in that market. 

In 2008, Palm saw the writing on the wall and made an ambitious bid to retake the market.  After much investment, it unveiled webOS, its new smartphone operating system.  In June 2009, the Palm Pre launched on Sprint, America's third largest wireless carrier.  

Commentary on the smartphone and its OS was mixed, but overall was somewhat positive.  The interface was much like the iPhone, but it lacked the iPhone's extensive app library and used slower interpreted code for apps (as opposed to native code).  Perks, though, included multitasking and a physical keyboard.

Since the launch of the Pre, Palm has done its best to beef up its offerings, releasing the cheaper Palm Pixi handset and the Palm Pre Plus on Verizon, the nation's largest network (Sprint was the first to get the Pixi).  It also released a new software development kit that allowed native application code via the Simple Direct MediaLayer.  The results were impressive -- Palm devs were able to quickly port both Doom and Quake to the phone, a feat impossible with interpreted code.

For all that effort, Palm's sales continued to slip as it saw Apple and RIM post gains.  People simply didn't seem interested in the Palm handsets.  


Over The Air
 in February reported that Palm had shut down its production of webOS handsets.  Palm claimed at the time that the shutdown was temporary -- just a closure for the Chinese New Year.

Now it appears that the shutdown was not just for the holidays.  Palm's poor sales, showcased by its miserable Q1 2010 calendar quarter (its fiscal Q3 2010), are catching up to it and it is developing a large overstock of webOS phones.  According to Morgan Stanley Analyst Ehud Geldblum, Palm this quarter produced 960,000 phones, but amazingly has only sold 408,000 of them.  The total overstock is estimated to be 1.5 million units, following a 29 percent drop in sales in the first quarter of this year, which ends at the end of this month.  Palm's revenue has reportedly dropped $22M USD over the current quarter.

To put Palm's unfortunate failure in context, Google's Android sold 5.5 million units in Q4 2009 and Apple moved 7.5 million iPhones.  That means that Palm's sales for entire quarter are approximately the number of units Apple or Google sell in a single week.

Even if Palm was incredibly able to continue the sales pace of its Pre and Pixi (which is perhaps possible given its new Verizon contact), it would take nearly a year before it could sell off its stock.  By then new Android handsets would have arrived, a new iPhone, and Windows Mobile 7 -- all while Palm is stuck trying to unload increasingly dated handsets.

Palm will likely be forced to turn to deep discounting.  At first blush this might seem happy news for the consumer, but ultimately it is 
not a good thing as it will hurt Palm badly, which in turn will hurt Palm's ability to promote a successful app market for consumers.

Despite all the bad news surrounding Palm these days, there was a bit of good news for the company today. AT&T announced that both the Pre Plus and the Pixi Plus will be heading to its network “soon”.


 



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RE: What I would do...
By Manch on 3/23/2010 12:12:32 AM , Rating: 2
Ha! Every time some ass-hat starts digging his hole deeper the song "The Gambler" pops into my head.

Some people just dont learn.


RE: What I would do...
By Tony Swash on 3/23/10, Rating: -1
RE: What I would do...
By retrospooty on 3/23/10, Rating: 0
RE: What I would do...
By Tony Swash on 3/23/10, Rating: -1
RE: What I would do...
By clovell on 3/23/2010 11:53:57 AM , Rating: 5
I think you got under their skin most when you confused storage and RAM, and then refused to say something along the lines, 'Damn, I knew I shouldn't have posted before I finished that first cup of coffee.'

Being an Apple fan probably didn't help you, either.


RE: What I would do...
By Tony Swash on 3/23/10, Rating: 0
RE: What I would do...
By Laereom on 3/28/2010 12:15:31 PM , Rating: 2
I imagine most of them don't have anything against Apple, per se...one must admit that they make a lot of solid, market-changing products. I don't enjoy most of them personally since I like having more control over my gadgets than most, but I can understand others who do.

However, Apple fanboys...

Well, let me put it this way:
Thrice in my life have I met people who confused long term storage with RAM. One was my grandmother. The other two were Apple fanboys claiming their system had 260GB of RAM and cost only $800.


RE: What I would do...
By R3T4rd on 3/23/2010 8:57:56 AM , Rating: 2
If you really don't know, of all the Hacker Contest Held Legally, there is one that is held every year. MAC's were the very first to fall, then Windows, then other Linux flavors. So what does that tell you?

Your sense of security is through obscurity. The only reason why MAC's are does not get Maleware/Viruses/Trojans/Worms its because of the exact reason you stated - MACS have a very little demographic of users and owners (4%-7% of all PC's in the world).

Why would a hacker trying to get money, hack MACs (4% of PCs) when they can hack Windows based PCs (90%+ of PCs). Also your MAC if its MSRP was $1200, have the same identical PC components inside as a $400 Windows PC. There IS absolutely no difference besides the shiny outside and the MAC Operating System.

All these things have been stated over, and over, and over, soooo much its like a broken record. Yet, we still keep getting MAC users like urself who proves the point we have been reciting all along that MAC users are like sheeps herded by Apple/Steve Job's magic leash. There is so much more that can be said and compared between Windows PC's and Mac PC's that if I go on, I'll regergitate what has already been said by people on here soo much, we'd fill up 10,000 webster dictionarys.

And no, we are not adolescent males strutting and running our Windows PC hormones. We have yrs and yrs of IT experience and have seen all there is to see.


RE: What I would do...
By Tony Swash on 3/23/10, Rating: -1
RE: What I would do...
By Gio6518 on 3/23/2010 2:19:47 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Meanwhile in the real world (where I prefer to live) there are no viruses or propagating malware for Macs while every day tens of thousands of Windows PCs get infected.


seriously your incredible dumb and believe all that apple BS, or your just having a good time messing with peoples heads

there are thousands of viruses and other malware out there for macs, granted as not as much for pc's, but thats the way it is due to popularity of the pc compared to mac.

http://antivirus.about.com/od/macintoshresource/Ma...

http://ftp.cerias.purdue.edu/pub/tools/mac/mac-vir...

and theres many more


RE: What I would do...
By Tony Swash on 3/23/2010 3:45:53 PM , Rating: 1
One of the links you point to is to a 20 year old document. It describes viruses for the old (ie pre-MacOSX) Mac system software. This is like claiming that Windows 7 is vulnerable because of an exploit in Windows version 3.1

The second link is to a search result. Most of the links seems to consist of "research" from security companies saying that Mac users should buy their products. I guess if you ask a car dealer if its time to trade in your old car for a new one the answer would yes but it would prove nothing about the state of your old car.

There are no examples of self replicating viruses existing and spreading in the wild for MacOsX. No malware that spreads itself from one Mac to another. Nothing you can catch on your mac from an email or attachment or download that you can spread to another mac. None.

I did see references a few months back to a pirated copy of iWorks (the Apple productivity suite for macs) which was posted on the web and which apparently contained a Trojan. The Trojan appeared to be harmless and easily removed. There is no data as to how many Macs got infected because nobody wants to admit to using pirated software. It could have been lots or it could be none. Nobody knows but the story about it died quickly so probably very few people were affected. Even if someone's mac was infected by this single example of a Trojan for macs it wouldn't spread to other macs - because there are no self replicating viruses for macs - none.


RE: What I would do...
By Manch on 3/23/2010 6:30:56 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Where does all your negative emotional energy come from and is it healthily?


From Apple Sheeple like yourself posting BS nonsense, and it's only unhealthy if I don't call you an Ass-Hat, Ass-Hat.

Don't act surprised that you got lit up for posting incorrect info on a tech website and then defend yourself with Apple is the greatest, my Windows PC never works BS. We've all heard that line millions of times.

Now seriously, do you and all the other sheeple buy your Windows based PC from the same damn mythical place. Every Single one of you seems to have more problems with your windows PC's than anybody else I've run into.


RE: What I would do...
By Tony Swash on 3/23/2010 6:49:17 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
From Apple Sheeple like yourself posting BS nonsense, and it's only unhealthy if I don't call you an Ass-Hat, Ass-Hat.


What are you so angry about - who hurt you and why are you so afraid and hostile? Its seems such an inappropriate and over the top reaction, what lurks beneath?


RE: What I would do...
By Manch on 3/23/2010 7:14:40 PM , Rating: 2
Really? I said you were an Ass-hat. Hardly over the top.

All Im sayin is like everyone else on here, we know that you aren't
seriously offended. Everyone here is tired of the same old bull
sh1t and they are going to jump all over you every time you post.
Have you ever been on a forum that doesn't. If so go back to it,
and if you do not want to do that, then you should pay attention
to what the f*ck you're saying and of course remember "the Gambler"


RE: What I would do...
By snakeInTheGrass on 3/23/2010 10:12:17 PM , Rating: 2
It really is just ridiculous to immediately reply like that to people you don't even know - you just look like a total assh0le yourself.

Anyway, plenty of people really don't care about how much RAM their phone has, it's just supposed to work. The same is true of computers, which I think is what Tony's point was. Palm and everyone else has an uphill climb thanks to the high bar the iPhone user experience has set and the success of the App Store. The recent success of the Mac (if you don't haven't looked into the technical side or user experience side, fine, then just call it pure marketing success for all I care) has similarly forced Microsoft to step up its game and actually try to compete a bit. That should be good for everyone, not a reason for name calling.


"It looks like the iPhone 4 might be their Vista, and I'm okay with that." -- Microsoft COO Kevin Turner














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