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Despite Apple's patents on cell phone touch gestures, HTC was the first to bring a touch-gesture driven phone to the market, with its HTC Touch, released in June 2007.  (Source: Overseas Electronics)
Company is standing up to Apple's patent claims

HTC says in a press release that it is prepared to fight back against Apple's patent litigation in court.  It has not yet filed an official response or countersued, but that should follow within a few weeks.

Apple is currently suing HTC to block the import of Android handsets into the U.S.  Apple claims that it invented a host of technologies including a touch-screen finger-swipe unlock gestures, mobile object oriented graphics, and undervolting a mobile CPU via an interrupt.  These somewhat vague and far-reaching patents form the basis of Apple's claims.  Apple CEO Jobs released a statement casting his company as the tireless innovator and his rivals as thieves.

Peter Chou, chief executive officer, HTC Corporation, says that HTC won't tolerate Apple's bullying.  He states, "HTC disagrees with Apple's actions and will fully defend itself. HTC strongly advocates intellectual property protection and will continue to respect other innovators and their technologies as we have always done, but we will continue to embrace competition through our own innovation as a healthy way for consumers to get the best mobile experience possible."

The press release points out that HTC achieved many industry firsts -- the first Windows PDA (1998), the first Windows Phone (2002), the first gesture-based smart phone (June 2007), and the first Google Android smart phone (October 2008).  Along the way it piled up a fair amount of intellectual property, which could give it ammo against Apple in court.

Some are speculating that Google, makers of the Android operating system, may intervene and aid its handset developers legally to prevent Apple trying to stomp out the growing Android movement at the hardware level.

The stakes are high.  If Apple wins, it could effectively take many of the top Android handsets off the U.S. market, including the HTC Hero, MyTouch, Nexus One, and the soon-to-be-released Incredible.  If HTC wins, on the other hand, it will likely damage Apple's image and give the Android movement more momentum.

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RE: Apple Defense
By Mitch101 on 3/18/2010 1:18:02 PM , Rating: 3
Pirks I wont tell you to F-O. Generally when you copy something its on similarities not missing features. Its like saying Microsoft device doesn't have MKV playback just like the iPhone, It doesn't cut onions just like the iPhone doesn't either. OMG! There stealing! Copy and Paste would be a technical advantage instead of a known hindrance of the iPhone it being left out is just Microsoft being stupid to consumer wants in a portable device not black helicopter copy Apple stuff.

Now I will give you one but I dont recall you mentioning it. Adobe Flash. Apple can say whatever it wants for why the iPhone doesn't support flash but its a basic business decision and that is if the iPhone were able to run Flash then they would lose money to people using flash based applications/games bypassing the Apple App store. It's all about the dollars.

I believe you are more Anti-Microsoft and your finding more popularity with the Apple crowd. Youve found an identity for yourself there. You also turn a blind eye when Apple does the same. It reminds me of the people who get very upset when Microsoft adds a similar feature found in Linux but never acknowledge that every generation of Linux looks more and more like Windows. Do you have any anger toward Apple for stealing from Xerox? Probably not because Apple made the Xerox stuff very nice but you harbor resentment for Microsoft beating Apple. Why? Because Steve Jobs convinced you Microsoft stole THEIR idea for a gui and mouse?

The reality is they all take from each other and for the record I find Linux good for some things but I prefer Windows for ease of use. I think the iPhone is a great device but not secure enough for business critical information. We recently demonstrated hacking the iPhone to obtain corporate info from the device in only a few minutes.

Let me express my view of the Windows Mobile device and what I see.

I see the Microsoft Windows Mobile 7 device to be a bigger threat to the #1 mobile device franchise which is Blackberry. Windows Mobile 7 ties in with a lot of the Microsoft business applications. If anyone stands to lose market share its RIM from Microsoft, Apple, and Google.

Microsoft for a long time mentioned they wanted to get into the portable gaming business. Microsoft's target would be the #1 portable gaming system being the Nintendo DS. Will it be better? Not sure about that the DS is great but Im sure there will be enough titles to keep my interest. This is a perk not a priority.

Why dont I consider the iPhone in both analogies above.
Not secure enough for corporate use. (Deal Killers)
Doesnt support Flash (This does blow)
Doesn't do cut and paste (Not overly important but would be nice)

I'm a blackberry user and Im highly interested in the Windows Mobile 7 device. I envy the iPhone but cant afford to have its limitations. Droid is cool but I know with a Windows Mobile device I will have work and play.

RE: Apple Defense
By Pirks on 3/18/10, Rating: 0
RE: Apple Defense
By Mitch101 on 3/18/2010 5:13:24 PM , Rating: 2
No need for Blackberry Servers
No need to purchase Blackberry Server Licenses
No need to purchase licenses for every blackberry user
No need to purchase T-Support

Windows Mobile 6.5 phones are the only ones that have the Outlook Mobile client that uses the new features in Outlook 2010 such as Conversation View of e-mails and having audio and transcriptions of voicemails delivered to inboxes. Windows mobile 7 devices will have the same if not better.

Every mailbox with a BlackBerry connection to Exchange uses five times the connection resources that a mailbox with an Exchange ActiveSync client uses.

RE: Apple Defense
By ICBM on 3/18/2010 5:56:22 PM , Rating: 2
Hasn't Apple ripped of quite a bit from Microsoft recently? Moving to x86 just like Windows? Or how about selling a mouse with more than one button?

While by your definition they has copied Apple, however I would give Apple more credit(and WinMo7). They both are evaluating markets, what works and what doesn't. It would be stupid not to take advantage of your competitors successes and mistakes.

Now to say that WinMo7 is copying iphone 1.0 because they lack features? Odd choice, but lets see where it goes. Including/Excluding features can be considered copying in this world. Colored screen, backlit screen, wallpapers on a phone, phone that plays mp3s, contact list/address book, calender, push buttons, push buttons to control volume, a button to silence the phone, a phone that can sync with a computer,etc.....

So by these rules, in this world, it kind of looks like the iphone is the copycat device, no?

RE: Apple Defense
By Pirks on 3/18/2010 10:37:07 PM , Rating: 2
Moving to x86 just like Windows?
Did Windows move from PPC to x86? No? Then what did Apple rip off then?
how about selling a mouse with more than one button?
Well, if multibutton mice were invented by MS...
kind of looks like the iphone is the copycat device
In that sense yes, every device in some sense is copycat of another one, so your statement is not news at all.

RE: Apple Defense
By ICBM on 3/19/2010 12:24:56 PM , Rating: 2
Let me rephrase what you quoted to clarify:

Apple started using x86 for their products because of market saturation. x86 was always faster and much faster speed bumps than PPC, thanks to market saturation. This is thanks to Microsoft. So you can say Apple is piggy backing on what Microsoft made popular/dominant. So you ask what Apple ripped off? They are using something Windows made popular. In your context of claiming WinMo7 is ripping stuff off, it seems like the same thing to me.

I never claimed MS invented multibutton mice. They did make
it the dominant type of mouse. How many years was Apple criticized for one button mice? Then they finally start offing multibutton mice. Microsoft didn't invent them, and Apple didn't invent any of the things you are claiming WinMo7 is ripping off.

Final quote, the argument makes sense because you are claiming including/excluding common features is what can be considered a copycat. The point I was making, and I think you picked up on, is that including/excluding features isn't a big deal and is part of the business. You pointing out that WinMo7 is ripping off iphone opens the can of worms my argument was aluding to.

RE: Apple Defense
By Pirks on 3/19/2010 6:24:23 PM , Rating: 2
There's still difference between ripping off a design of a product and switching hardware platform from less popular to more popular. The difference is: x86 was not designed by MS, while iPhone WAS designed by Apple.
Apple didn't invent any of the things you are claiming WinMo7 is ripping off
Things alone just by themselves mean nothing, but when you start piecing them together you get a mosaic that looks exactly like iPhone 1.0. This little missing feature, that tiny missing feature, that newly added feature, this restriction, that one, this minor thing and that one - ALL TOGETHER were belonging to iPhone before.

So yeah, getting just someone's nose or piece of mustache is not going to give you someone else's face, but when you grab all the facial details of another person (figuratively speaking of course) your face suddenly looks JUST LIKE THAT OTHER GUY WE KNEW FOR SO LONG.

Same's with iPhone and WinMo7 - their "faces", their little features and restrictions look SO MUCH LIKE EACH OTHER that it's a nobrainer who ripped off who _this_ time.

"This week I got an iPhone. This weekend I got four chargers so I can keep it charged everywhere I go and a land line so I can actually make phone calls." -- Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg

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