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4G phones should land this summer

There are two camps in the upcoming 4G wars in the United States. Right now, the only 4G network that is commercially available comes from Sprint and Clearwire. Other major producers are testing competing 4G networks around the country and hope to start limited rollouts late in 2010.

Sprint and Clearwire backed WiMAX for their 4G technology while all other major providers like AT&T and Verizon are backing LTE for 4G. The only benefit of WiMAX over LTE is that WiMAX was faster to market. Sprint and Clearwire offer WiMAX in a number of large cities around the country and the two companies are rolling out coverage to more cities all the time.

Five new WiMAX markets came online in November 2009 including Chicago, Dallas-Fort Worth, and three North Carolina markets. The big catch so far for the 4G covered areas is that connectivity has been limited to USB modems for computers and no mobile phone supporting 4G have been offered. Sprint has said the devices were coming, but so far, none have materialized.

Forbes reports that Sprint has now announced new 4G compatible handsets will be coming sooner than previously believed. The new handsets are said to be launching in the first half of 2010, which is a few months earlier than previously expected. The handsets will be dual-mode phones capable of operating on the limited availability 4G network and on the Sprint 3G network in other areas.

Sprint is counting on the new 4G phones to help it grow and gain on major rivals like Verizon. Sprint has been hemorrhaging subscribers badly and losing market share to both AT&T and Verizon as customers leave the Sprint network in droves. Sprint CEO Dan Hesse says that 2010 is the year of 4G and Sprint is working with manufactures to embed 4G into a number of devices.

There is no word at this time what company will be making 4G handsets for Sprint.



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RE: I don't get it
By Drag0nFire on 2/19/2010 1:03:34 PM , Rating: 2
I thought the prices for Smartphone/data were pretty much constant across VZW/ATT/Sprint.

I'm not saying you're wrong, I really don't know. Can you explain why Sprint is cheaper?


RE: I don't get it
By Gio6518 on 2/19/2010 1:19:12 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I thought the prices for Smartphone/data were pretty much constant across VZW/ATT/Sprint.


well lets take an iPhone on AT&T for starters against HTC Hero on Sprint

everything data so thats unlimited everything
GPS
TEXT
CALLS
DATA i mean everything is $99
(should say $69 since unlimited mobile to mobile hard to get to 450 min.)

but we'll stick with $99

an iPhone on AT&T for all this is $159

now lets say a droid eris on Verizon unlimited talk and Data
is 135.98

t-mobile we'll go with a my touch 3G
$59.99 unlimited talk
$30 must have data pkg
$10 unlimited text
not sure if they charge for GPS


RE: I don't get it
By cocoviper on 2/19/2010 1:23:38 PM , Rating: 2
And as an additional example for Sprint in the above example:

$69 gets you GPS, Text, data, and unlimited calls to any mobile number + 450 minutes to landlines. Sprint also has unlimited landline minutes after 7pm vs. everyone's unlimited Mobile and landline minutes not kicking in till 9pm.


RE: I don't get it
By really on 2/19/2010 4:11:08 PM , Rating: 2
Actually you can put it this way too.
Everything that Sprint offers is included in the Everything plan. Hence the name.
Included and Unlimited
Mobile to Mobile no matter what network they are on
Unlimited Messaging, text, pictures and video
Unlimited Data
Sprint TV, Pandora, GPS Navigation, NFL Mobile Live, Nascar Sprint Cup Mobile
The only time the plan minutes are used is when calling or receiving a call from a land line.
Unlimited anytime minutes, nationwide long distance and no roaming charges

I just upgraded today from a Rumor to the Samsung Moment, expect to get it in the mail next week.
I have been a customer with Sprint for 10 years. I've never had any problems with them and the services have only gotten better with time. Since I've been with them for so long I also get some other benefits as a premiere customer like getting $150 instant saving when I upgrade my phone once in a 12 month period as opposed to the 18 months everyone else gets.


RE: I don't get it
By EasyEEE on 2/19/2010 4:55:20 PM , Rating: 2
Well, my contract is about up. I don't have insurance on my current Sprint phone - 4th replacement (5th one of this model) as the screen kept going out. No longer under warranty, Sprint replaced it with a refirb discontinued model free of charge. I didn't have to re-sign, pay for phone, etc... "Here, no charge for your troubles. No extension/new contract."

Provided rates stay same with Sprint, my bill AFTER taxes, with 4 lines of the Sprint Smartphone - ie HTC SuperSonic - will be $179 - after 15% discount, for 1500 anytime minutes (ie to land lines - except for 1-800 numbers, who calls land lines!?), unlimited MOBILE to MOBILE (not just Sprint), Unlimited Text, Unlimited Web - $179 - 4 lines.

I honestly was about to leave if they didn't come thru with a new phone soon.. and because initially they said would be $90 to fix my phone.

Anyway.. I've been with Sprint for years. Never had a problem. If they messed up on a bill, they fixed it.

My issue has always been quality/cool phones.. lack there of.

I'll be staying .. looking forward to Supersonic!!


RE: I don't get it
By atlmann10 on 2/20/2010 2:27:46 AM , Rating: 2
Plus the big thing when they drop this phone is going to be 4G. Most people don't know anything about 4G yet in the US because there's no existing unit's phone wise.

Technology 3G 4G
Frequency band 1.8 - 2.5GHz 2 - 8GHz
Bandwidth 5-20MHz 5-20MHz
Data rate Up to 2Mbps 100Mbps moving - 1Gbps stationary
Access W-CDMA VSF-OFCDM and VSF-CDMA
FEC Turbo-codes Concatenated codes
Switching Circuit/Packet Packet

Where the frequency band also equals signal distance from what I understand which will be much longer throw, and the data rate stands for itself a 500% difference at minimum basically.

If Sprint can get this phone to market and operational as well as being a solo carrier for at least a quarter I would say there should be some good return. There reliability in 4G markets should also be much better.


RE: I don't get it
By Diesel Donkey on 2/20/2010 3:03:53 PM , Rating: 2
Higher frequency means higher data rates but LOWER signal distance. That's why radio waves go so much farther than cell phone signals.


RE: I don't get it
By cocoviper on 2/19/2010 1:21:21 PM , Rating: 2
Sure.

It's because when you buy an unlimited data plan with Sprint it also includes a Voice plan + unlimited messaging (text and MMS), unlimited GPS (which they have on all their post-2008 phones for free), nights and weekends that start at 7pm vs. 9pm for the other guys (getting 7pm typically costs another $5-10) and unlimited calls to any mobile network (everyone else is just within their own customer base i.e. Att-to-Att, vs. Sprint being Sprint-to-any mobile).

So if you're just wanting the cheapest possible plan- T-Mobile or a Prepaid (i.e. Virgin Mobile, Boost, Cricket, etc) will be cheapest by $5-15. But if you are looking for the cheapest relative to what you're getting, Sprint is $20/mo cheaper outright compared to Att and Verizon (their unlimited data plans with messaging start at $89/mo). Then once you add on GPS navigation, earlier nights and weekends, that raises everyone else's prices another $15-20/mo so you're now over $100/mo vs. $69 still for Sprint. Factor in unlimited calls to any mobile in the US and you will hardly use any minutes- to get something similar on everyone else would require purchasing a higher priced minute plan.

So in general, to make an apples-to-apples comparison, Sprint's Everything Unlimited ($69) plan is going to be cheaper than T-Mobile's equivalent plan by about $15/mo and cheaper than Att and Verizon by about $40/mo.

Multiply that out over 2 years and you're looking at savings of $360-$960.


RE: I don't get it
By RamarC on 2/19/2010 5:20:32 PM , Rating: 2
and don't forget the semi-unlimited multi-line plans. we have 1400 minutes shared over 4 phones for $160. text/data is unlimited on all phones. since sprint started the free mobile to mobile we hardly use more 500 minutes and that includes my 22 yo son who lives in another state and doesn't have a land line.


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