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Measure passes broadly passes with 56-17 vote, but lacks legal power

Many politicians across the U.S. have already made their mind up about climate change and refuse to consider recent allegations of academic misconduct among prominent climate researchers, or other plausible explanations for climate change, such as sun cycles.  Across the country, there are many folks that haven't blindly accepted the theory, though.

Utah's heavily Republican state legislature has passed a new resolution which condemns climate change alarmism.  The resolution lacks any legal authority, but vocally criticizes the anthropogenic global warming community for ignoring recent developments.

The legislation, which resoundingly passed by a vote of 56-17, originally referred to global warming theory as a "conspiracy", but that term was stricken from the measure in favor of "climate data".  

A small excerpt from the measure is:

WHEREAS, there has been a concerted effort by climate change alarmists to marginalize those in the scientific community who are skeptical of global warming by manipulating or pressuring peer-reviewed publications to keep contrary or competing scientific viewpoints and findings on global warming from being reviewed and published; 

WHEREAS, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), a blend of government officials and scientists, does no independent climate research but relies on global climate researchers;

WHEREAS, Earth's climate is constantly changing with recent warming potentially an indication of a return to more normal temperatures following a prolonged cooling period from 1250 to 1860 called the "Little Ice Age"; 

The bill points out that pending warming legislation will earn its proponents "more than $7 billion annually in federal government grants".  Originally those grants were referred to as the "the climate change 'gravy train'", but that language was removed from the measure.

The bill is critical of the U.S. Environmental Agency and President Barack Obama's calls to regulate greenhouse gases nationally.  Representative Mike Noel says the warming scare is an example of profiteers posing as environmentalists and exploiting the public for their own gain.  He states, "Sometimes ... we need to have the courage to do nothing."

Arizona is considering similar legislation.

The only potential downside of the measures, is that they could give local environmentalists means to challenge future nuclear plant construction in the states.  President Obama has championed nuclear plant construction, but says that he's doing it to "combat climate change."



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RE: Great
By Qapa on 2/17/2010 12:19:48 PM , Rating: 2
Couldn't they learn the power of silence? As in, being silent is better than saying dumb s***? :P Specially for legislation..

Sorry, but:
- climate is changing - always;
- we are definitely affecting climate, at least in micro scale - cities that have constant smoke fog over them, acidic rains, oil spills, ...

The question that people are still making is if we are causing GW and the simple answer is: of course! But to what extent?

Solution:
- keep studying the subject;
- apply solutions to fix the problems that we see and which also may fix that problem - go with renewable non-polluting energy sources, start changing cars to electric (allows changing in the energy types used by changing the power plants);

And believe me that the numbers of money spent (for instance) in health due to city pollution is something that people should be taking into consideration - it makes all these "eco" solutions much more attractive.


RE: Great
By porkpie on 2/17/2010 12:33:12 PM , Rating: 2
"The question that people are still making is if we are causing GW and the simple answer is: of course!"

God I love simple answers! Don't you? Simple answers are what told the ancient Sumerians they could sail off the edge of the world, and convinced the Greeks that thunder was caused by Zeus in a bad temper.

"And believe me that the numbers of money spent (for instance) in health due to city pollution "

Odd, I've lived in a large city all my life and never been to the hospital because of "pollution". Never met anyone who has, either.

I know there ARE some hypersentitive individuals and those with chronic asthma that can be affected...but in all honesty, you're trying to grossly exaggerate the effects here.

Even worse is the fact that over half of all air pollution comes from a single source: the coal power plants that environmentalists have kept running the past 30 years by blocking all things nuclear.


RE: Great
By alphadog on 2/17/2010 1:08:46 PM , Rating: 5
"Odd, I've lived in a large city all my life and never been to the hospital because of "pollution"."

Anecdotal evidence is so useful.


RE: Great
By porkpie on 2/17/2010 1:25:22 PM , Rating: 2
"Anecdotal evidence is so useful"

As opposed to the firm figures you presented?

Here's a figure for you. In a single three-day period in London, over 4,000 people died from air pollution caused by coal smog. In just three days time. The air was so black, people had to walk in front of cars and buses to direct the drivers.

The year? 1952.

Care to estimate how many have died in the entire COUNTRY in the last 10 years from smog?

Air pollution is a problem we've essentially almost entirely solved. Maximizing it for scare tactics is just plain silly. The sky isn't falling, Chicken Little.


RE: Great
By SPOOFE on 2/17/2010 6:28:06 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Anecdotal evidence is so useful.

Some decades back, Los Angeles would see dozens of Hazardous Air warnings a year. Nowadays they see a handful, maybe two or three a year, if any. And that's with more stringent air quality guidelines.

Anecdotes? Huh?


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