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The government and Lockheed Martin are scrambling to get back on schedule while fixing the overbudget project

The Pentagon confirmed a one-year delay of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter program, with Deputy Defense Secretary Bill Lynn facing increased pressure to get spending under control on the project.

"The development was originally projected to last an additional 30 months; we think with the additional test aircraft it will be closer to a delay of about 12 or 13 months, but I can't give you the cost numbers," according to Lynn's statement to the media.

Pentagon officials didn't say if this one-year delay will push back final release dates, but it likely will, military experts have noted. 

The Marine Corps is expected to receive the first batch of F-35s in two years, while the Air Force and Navy are expected to receive the next-generation fighter aircraft in 2013 and 2014.  Prior to Lynn's recent announcement, Lockheed Martin officials noted they were about six months behind schedule, but still expect to be able to meet the USMC release date.

Last November, a report said the program is drastically overbudget and behind schedule, which led the government to rethink its strategy moving forward.  Actual demand for the aircraft remains unknown, but there have been at least 2,500 orders placed for the U.S. military branches, with several other nations also expected to receive the aircraft in years to come.

Due to costly delays and budget miscues, the DOD will also withhold $614 million that will eventually be paid to Lockheed Martin.

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RE: A Lost Cause
By Chillin1248 on 2/20/2010 4:41:31 AM , Rating: 2
Which Combat ??????.....under controlled simultated conditons maybe ? not convincing indeed-where everything/action/etc is predetermined.

In testing and combat excercises, which is much more than the F-35 can say for itself.

Your latter paragraphs quote the F-22 but talk about Russian equipment... The F-22 is still the better buy compared to the F-22. And the navy already has the F-18F which has a low RCS from the frontal area, just like the JSF. Keep in mind that the JSF is only stealthy in the front, the rear, sides and bottom are not.

Also for all your Anti-Russian slander, I would check up on the Indian SU-30MKi's and how they fared against the F-15s.



RE: A Lost Cause
By crystal clear on 2/20/2010 5:53:16 AM , Rating: 2
I would check up on the Indian SU-30MKi's and how they fared against the F-15s.

Sometime around 2 months ago the Israeli channel 2 had a footage about the IAF (recorded ofcourse) testing (simulated combat)- a latest Russian fighter plane (dont remember the model) against the Israeli Fs , both planes flown by Israeli pilots.

The Russian plane was recieved by Israel on loan from a friendly country for the express purposes of testing (combat) its performance against the front line models the Israelis use on a daily basis.

The Russian plane was outclassed in all aspects of air combat.

I wish I could track down the footage on You tube to provide the link.

Keep in mind that the JSF is only stealthy in the front, the rear, sides and bottom are not.

Read this plus the full report-

DOD states that the F-35 program “was structured from the beginning to be a model of
acquisition reform, with an emphasis on jointness, technology maturation and concept
demonstrations, and early cost and performance trades integral to the weapon system
requirements definition process

All three versions of the F-35 will be single-seat aircraft with supersonic dash capability and
some degree of stealth . The three versions will vary somewhat in their combat ranges and
payloads (see the Appendix B).
All three are to carry their primary weapons internally to
maintain a stealthy radar signature. Additional weapons can be carried externally on missions
requiring less stealth.

RE: A Lost Cause
By Chillin1248 on 2/20/2010 8:10:07 AM , Rating: 3
It was a MiG-29, which to be honest is not competition for the F-15's. It is what the Syrian Air Force has so therefore it was tested.

However the SU-30/35 are a completely different class of aircraft which offers increased competition against the F-15.
From the Report:

The Air Force states that:
The F-35 program will develop and deploy a family of highly capable, affordable, fifth
generation strike fighter aircraft to meet the operational needs of the Air Force, Navy,
Marine Corps, and Allies with optimum commonality to minimize life cycle costs. The F-35
was designed from the bottom-up to be our premier surface-to-air missile killer and is
uniquely equipped for this mission with cutting edge processing power, synthetic aperture
radar integration techniques, and advanced target recognition. The F-35 also provides “leap
ahead” capabilities in its resistance to jamming, maintainability, and logistic support.4

This statement kind of dumbfounds me, considering the F-35 is not stealthy from all angles except the front. So going against an Intergrated Air Defense Network is near suicide for the F-35 as the will be seen by such system as the S-300/400.

Fifth-generation aircraft incorporate the most modern technology, and are considered to be generally more capable
than earlier-generation (e.g., 4th-generation and below) aircraft. Fifth-generation fighters combine new developments
such as thrust vectoring, composite materials, supercruise (the ability to cruise at supersonic speeds without using
engine afterburners), stealth technology, advanced radar and sensors, and integrated avionics to greatly improve pilot situational awareness.

From my understanding of this statement, the JSF would only qualify as a 4.5 Generation fighter. As it is very much lacking the:

1)- Supercruise
2)- Thrust Vectoring
3)- Stealth - The Airplane is only stealthy from the front.


RE: A Lost Cause
By crystal clear on 2/20/2010 9:21:48 AM , Rating: 1
Its chilling to compare the report to the realities of today, what a waste of funds & gross mismanagement by those involved.
That led me to post a seperate comment earlier "scrap it" & conclude -

"This JSF program is a failure !......"

Anyway it was nice discussing with you !

Found the link-
Israeli air force MIG 29 exposed (601 squadron)

"Well, we didn't have anyone in line that got shot waiting for our system." -- Nintendo of America Vice President Perrin Kaplan
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