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Company still tight on details

GPU giant NVIDIA is betting the future of the company on its GF100 graphics chips using the new Fermi architecture. The new chips started mass production last month, and are expected to be used in new video cards that will be launched around the end of February.

There still aren't a lot of specific details about the video cards that will use the new chips, but the company has just released information about the names of the first cards to use GF100 chips.

The GeForce GTX 480 will be the high end video card using the highest clocked speeds, while the GeForce GTX 470 will be a more affordable card with lower core and memory timings. Several defective CUDA cores are likely to be disabled in the GTX 470, which is going to be a big production problem for NVIDIA due to the large die size of the GF100.

NVIDIA seems to be almost entirely skipping the 300-series, with only the GeForce 310 occupying the space. That card is an OEM-only rebadge of the GeForce 210, a low-end DirectX 10.1 part.

Hopefully, this means that all cards in the 400-series will be DirectX 11 capable.

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Nice start...
By MrBlastman on 2/2/2010 10:40:12 AM , Rating: 2
Now give us some pricing and performance information and we'll have some good information. ;)

RE: Nice start...
By EJ257 on 2/2/2010 10:44:29 AM , Rating: 2
Finally, something to nudge AMD to lower the prices on their 5800/5700 series.

RE: Nice start...
By Despoiler on 2/2/2010 10:56:32 AM , Rating: 5
ATI's prices were lower. TSMC just didn't have a mature enough 40nm process. They couldn't keep up with demand. Supposedly they have fixed the issues. Either way Nvidia is going to charge a premium for their cards like usual. ATI may not be forced to do anything. We do know that Nvidia has already lost this round from a business standpoint. They are late to the punch, have a chip that is huge, and have a chip that was expensive to develop. If Nvidia is still having yield and power issues they could be in serious trouble. The money is not in the performance crown. ATI knows this.

RE: Nice start...
By cmdrdredd on 2/2/10, Rating: -1
RE: Nice start...
By Soldier1969 on 2/2/2010 7:28:56 PM , Rating: 3
Your the fanboy here, Nvidia is a day late and dollar short with DX11. It doesnt matter the games arent out yet. ATI is working on their next gen DX11 cards already and Nvidia what out now to compete...oh nothing thats right. Their new cards will be overpriced generate too much heat and FAIL. Kind of like you and your comment and any other Nvidia fanboy that thinks this will put them ahead lol.

RE: Nice start...
By RandallMoore on 2/3/2010 10:11:05 AM , Rating: 2
Your* never going to look like you know what you're talking about with grammar like that.

Attention millennials: For the love of God and all that is holy, please learn how to use YOUR correctly!!

RE: Nice start...
By jurassic512 on 2/4/2010 1:53:30 PM , Rating: 2
There is nothing on the AMD/ATi 2010 roadmap that shows any new CPU or GPU architectures. All AMD/ATi can do now (and word is they already are) is jack the clocks on the 5870 a la the 4890. But that's what a billion less transistors gets you. I've yet to hear of a mass amount of cards going as high as 90c melting, so heat is not an issue unless your case has space for only 2 80mm fans (or one), or you're just really picky and/or overclock.

The 5000 series isn't all that much different from the 4000 series. GF100 on the other hand is a from the ground up design with DX11 and CUDA in mind.

All AMD/ATi has now are the upcoming 45nm (still) Thurban, and Phenom II's with jacked clocks and TDP/ACP (140w on the soon to arrive, Phenom II 975 @ 3.6GHz) is coming out in 2010. Everything else is the same ol we've been seeing (K8 and K10 variants). All Intel has to do is wait until AMD shows signs of being a threat, and then release what they have been waiting to release. ie: 32nm quad, sexa, octocores. Word is Intel can do octocore natively with Nehelam, but AMD can only do 6 cores natively. So all that delay (First Gen Phenom's), just to have Intel do a native quad first and better.

AMD has been behind for a few years now (performance wise), but clock for clock, Phenom II is ancient. There is a CPU scaling review over at Tom's. C2Q vs Core i7 vs Phenom II @ 2.8GHz. It's not pretty, so don't say i didn't warn you.

RE: Nice start...
By littlebrendon on 2/19/2010 4:57:37 PM , Rating: 2
If anyone has a heat problem it's ATI, my friend used to have a high end 4000 series (I don't remember the exact name, i'm not a big fan)and it only lasted a month or two before performance started dropping and soon the fan just stopped working entirely and would force the computer to shut down. And the customer service to replace the fan was just awful, they never even sent a replacement. We ended up building an entire new rig with a GTX 260 and it's been running just as well as day 1. Unlike ATI.

RE: Nice start...
By SpaceRanger on 2/2/10, Rating: 0
RE: Nice start...
By semo on 2/2/2010 11:08:03 AM , Rating: 2
Why? Because of a paper launch of some vaporware? There is very little known about these cards (no power consumption, reliable performance numbers, price, availability or until recently even a retail name).

I've been launching my GTXHD semo 3zXy cards for years but they've never influenced the market one bit.

RE: Nice start...
By chagrinnin on 2/2/2010 11:33:19 AM , Rating: 5
I hear "launching" some "semo" on a regular basis is good for the prostate. Wait,...what were we talking about?

RE: Nice start...
By ClownPuncher on 2/2/2010 11:08:11 AM , Rating: 2
Color me impressed. Nvidia is organized enough to come up with a NAME for their product!!!

RE: Nice start...
By Marlonsm on 2/2/2010 12:17:15 PM , Rating: 5
Some times they not only come up with a name for products, they give multiple names to each one.

RE: Nice start...
By Golgatha on 2/2/2010 4:15:07 PM , Rating: 2
Epic...give this person a 6!!!

RE: Nice start...
By Camikazi on 2/2/2010 4:51:01 PM , Rating: 2
Any guesses how many name this chip is gonna get total? I lost track of how many names the g80 had or has not sure if that thing is still alive.

RE: Nice start...
By Alexvrb on 2/2/2010 10:22:01 PM , Rating: 3
If we're lucky, the GTS 350 will be a 9800GTX++, and the GT 340 will be a GT 240+! They're free upgrades over their "older" siblings - for a small premium, of course.

RE: Nice start...
By Blessedman on 2/3/2010 12:54:42 AM , Rating: 2
Here is what I do know, if Nvidia can come out of the gate with enough cards that are quicker and resonably priced they stand a chance as looking around trying to find the top ATI card is not going well. So I do see Nvidia still having a chance with a superiour card.

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