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Google has delivered some bad news for computer users clinging to the ancient Internet Explorer 6. It's dropping official support for the browser. An estimated 20 percent of the market (largely business users) still use IE 6.  (Source: Mouse Mates NI)
Google looks to lay a dinosaur of a browser to rest





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RE: Microsoft's mistake costs everyone else
By fic2 on 2/2/2010 1:13:36 PM , Rating: 5
I am pretty sure that by "the standards" he is talking about W3 standards that were set out by the W3 standards committee. MS just did it's own merry thing and said "F*ck the W3 standards we know better".


RE: Microsoft's mistake costs everyone else
By 3minence on 2/2/2010 2:35:17 PM , Rating: 2
I was indeed talking of W3 standards.

I do not mean to minimize the time and money involved to change legacy code. It is not a trivial amount. But those companies who have refused upgrade put themselves and their customers at risk.

My wife attends a University that uses the Blackboard software that the student use. It includes messaging, file sharing, and even online exams. The version the University uses says it ONLY works with IE6 and does not support other browsers. Currently I have IE8 on her PC in compatibility mode, and so far it's worked ok, but their is no guarantee. I don't know if Blackboard has fixed it's code yet, or the University refuses to upgrade, but I refuse to run the risk of using IE6.


By DanNeely on 2/2/2010 2:49:26 PM , Rating: 2
If you do run into a show-stopper at some point, MS is putting out free (time limited) XP-IE6 VMs for web-devs who need to do testing. Obviously this is a less than ideal solution, but would her use the legacy crap without running the exposure risk anywhere else.


By adiposity on 2/2/2010 3:15:02 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, they did. And that meant, developers had to say, "fvck the w3 standards" too, or they couldn't take advantage of IE's power. A standard that is used by less than 10% of web developers is no "standard" worth bothering with.

Luckily, things are different today and IE6 is no longer the majority. But it still has enough market share to matter.

That said, I support Google's decision. People who are using internal business apps from the 90's can install Chrome/Firefox along side it if they really need Google docs.


RE: Microsoft's mistake costs everyone else
By Murst on 2/2/2010 3:15:44 PM , Rating: 5
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MS just did it's own merry thing and said "F*ck the W3 standards we know better


Keep on living in that dream world. Many of the things we call standards now were in Microsoft software years before the W3C "standardized" them. In many cases, the W3C actually slightly altered their implementation, which resulted in the stuff that MS did to not be compliant. By this time, however, it was too late for Microsoft to change their code, as a lot of money was spent on these features.

Example: XMLHttPRequest ( core part of AJAX ). Microsoft released this in 1999, the W3C created the standard in 2006, of course different from the original implementation in IE. Forced MS to adapt.

I'm certainly not saying that Microsoft didn't make poor decisions. But you are really clueless if you think that Microsoft got to where it is today by looking at what the W3C did and going a different way on purpose.


By dark matter on 2/3/2010 6:55:48 AM , Rating: 2
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By omnicronx on 2/2/2010 3:40:24 PM , Rating: 2
I know exactly what he was talking about, and once again at the time MS had total browser domination, W3 standards meant absolutely nothing back then, and actually deviated from what MS had been doing for years.

In fact you can thank W3 for many of the incompatibilities between many of the Web standards and IE6.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for web standards and what MS did in the 90's would never survive today, but do a little research and you will realize that by the time many w3 standards were released, there had been legacy code and different ways of doing things so far entrenched into IE6, that it could not be changed.


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