quote: It was a CATHOLIC scientist, who was part of some of the FIRST movements into science from any organized group. Catholicism lead the scientific research front.
quote: Quit playing the "religious zealot" in the form of a scientist. It's quite stupid to watch.
quote: Now then William, did you know this? No. You don't even know that the bible doesn't separate man from the ecosystem. It simply states he is the only organism within his ecosystem that has complete power over his decisions over and with instinct due to choice. Man may have been cast out from Eden (I'm guessing this is what you mean by separate from Earth's eco system) but Earth, Eden, Human, Angels, all are a part of each other according to the bible. All are a part of God as well.
quote: The only difference between man and animals according to the bible is that no animal has the amount of control over choice of their actions as man (AKA freewill). When it comes to science, if you deny this is true of Earth you are a fool.
quote: This seems to be inconsistent with "biological proof" that all beings on this planet are "equal" in some way evolved to their environment. Man somehow evovled to be able to fight against instinct. Instinct is there, but we can choose to go against it.
quote: Religion does not have any statments in it that contradict science. Let me say that again: Science does not compete with religion, religion does not obstruct science.
quote: If you can name one person who was excommunicated for researching science (other than abortion, or embryonic stem cells, which do conflict with their religious beliefs
quote: You clearly are a white knight to our minds. *rolls eyes* do you know how many physics majors share your mentality? In California even remotely implying you believe in God in class results in the ignorance you just displayed.
quote: You're an idiot and an ass. You dive off topic and create new ones.
quote: By the way: I'm aethiest, so I know your type.
quote: would continue to debate with you, but you already proved all I was saying: You are a science zealot, weighing the equation with no "facts" whatsoever. I left the open opportunity with stem cell research as a fluke, to see how dumb you were. The answer? NO ONE. That's right, no one has been punished or thrown out of the church for their beliefs in science. And like an OAF, you jumped right at it.
quote: Nice. Clearly you are a genius. Now that I know you're a fool, there's no need to debate. Do your research kiddo, do your research. And whether or not the man who CREATED the big bang theory HAD BEEN quoted as saying the universe was 6,000 years old, trying to find a balance with religion, does not matter. He was searching for the answer, and found the answer that your punk ass scientists could not, and that you would not have.
quote: Without beliefs, whether religious or otherwise, no one has drive. You accuse religion as an abnormally imbalanced drive .
quote: Well guess the @%@^$ what?? It's a balance. All of it. And religion doesn't tip the scale. There's just as much flaw to science observation. Believing one can take three aspects of controlled observation and draw a conclusion which is absolute is childish. No physics majors agree with how hardcore you are, so I'm assuming that you are not a physics major. Good job.
quote: I instead assume you were the rebel aethiest in school, you almost definitely live in California given the brain dead calculations leaning on a left scale as well. A Virginian usually has both sides, you have one, so it has to be a well educated liberal state. California is the best bet. I know my kind.
quote: I don't fight my instinct because I debate with you?
quote: Guess my religion jack ass"relgious zealot" AethiestDumbass. Pull your head out of your ass. Seriously.You are a "religious zealost" in the form of a sceintist Bold comment from a "relgious zealot" Aethiest who bases his attack on someone's character rather than facts.
quote: Bold comment from a "relgious zealot" Aethiest who bases his attack on someone's character rather than facts.
quote: I bring up angels etc only in context with what you are arguing against. One must see both sides.
quote: You argued what the bible believes.
quote: Well then Aethiest, research religion and quote it properly, because you are wrong. Guess my religion jack ass. I dare you. Guess my profession? I may or may not have something too do with astro physics when it comes to the Haydron Particle Acccelerator
quote: I hear arguments on either side. You are biased, and took the assault against me and your "crusade" against religion rather than the topics at hand and the facts.
quote: And also: Before you quote and blame religion as the cause of most "prominant" wars and crimes, maybe you should take your own theory and blame man.
quote: Considering Rome was known for war, they adopted it and were not EVER accepted for their actions by the catholic church or to be a part of the Catholic church, and no man was ever burned at the stake as a part of a certified Catholic action, and the Catholic league which did science was a PART of the Catholic church(which you would know if you read apologetics, anything accepted as a catholic exposition was documented, what you speak of was not documented) then you would know something.
quote: Here's my tie-ins:WWI. WII. North Korea. Every modern war has been against religion.
quote: Every war post Roman days, and every country which was not conquered by an organized religion remains in more constant extreme war than a Christian one. For example: Russia, North Korea, China and Japan in WWII, but do you list these facts? No. And it is more than just a little bit idiotic.
quote: No swearing is used by people who respond to those who clearly insult others as a response.
quote: If you take the "higher" route, while diving off topic, and act like an ass that's what you are.
quote: The point of the wars comments: NO Christian modern country has started a random war as powerful as one who sought to destroy it. Sorry bud, the main mentality in ANY and ALL communist countries was to imprison or kill those of religious beliefs.
quote: The reason? As Hitler said in his speeches "Man must destroy God so that Germany can become a god" You attacked my beliefs and named them. I can respond like a human and say FUCK you.
quote: All is meritted. You deserve the insults. And you are a science zealot. The drone mentality is followed even more with the destruction of religion (see my Hitler comment) in order to control thought processes. I'm sorry, you are just wrong. The only one of the two of us that is a drone, is the one making false statements. If you noticed, I dislike the drone mentality too. You are following it to the letter. Again, you are indefinitely Californian. The "I'm high and mighty and never attack people" bullshit is a liberal thing.
quote: I'm indepenadant Washingtonian, physics major, who will tell you 50 times, you are biased. Your arguments are unfair. Drones are drones. People are people. Your people have as much or more so of an effect. So get your head out of your ass.
quote: Following a religion, or following Hitler, or maybe the North Koreans? There's a reason why dictators destroy religion.
quote: What you said about Catholic assaults is entirely untrue. And I advise you take history on it. Romans jumping on the christian band wagon, makes the person corrupt, not the religion they use. The person using communism for power makes the person corrupt. In theory communism is pretty good.
quote: The communism didn't make Hitler. You aren't weighing shit. So sit down and take a dump, your shit stinks, and you are not "balanced" until you take away your "imbalance" against religion. You attacked me, I attack back, so fuck yourself.