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Legislation would create 85-decibel cap, but some say it's unjust

To help protect the hearing of MP3 player owners, the European Commission is considering drafting legislation that would force manufacturers to create a limit on maximum volume. The proposed limit, a maximum 85 decibels, comes on the heels of an EU report that reports 10 million citizens could have hearing problems, including permanent hearing loss and other major medical issues.

"More and more young people are referred to me by their GPS with tinnitus or hearing loss as a direct result to exposure to loud music," said Dr. Robin Yeoh, Epsom and St. Heilier NHS Trust consultant, in an interview with BBC.  "It's the sort of damage that in the old days would have come from industrial noise.  The damage is permanent and will often play havoc with their employment opportunities and their personal lives."

If music listeners want to, they could increase the decibel limit up to 100 decibels.

EU legislators will take a closer look into the matter next month, with a final decision expected sometime in the spring.

Critics say there must be some type of middle ground between consumer safety and personal ownership, and note that 85 decibels is too low when background noise can still drown out the music.  Realistically, government officials must try to educate children about the dangers, not try to prevent it without education, if they wish to help reduce hearing-related cases stemming from loud music.



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RE: Nobody seems to notice this but....
By cfaalm on 12/15/2009 9:35:48 AM , Rating: 2
No, what you are saying is nonsense. I'd hate to pay taxes that pay your social security, though will have no choice. This will protect at least a couple against their own stupidity.

Exposure to excessive sound pressure in whatever way dimishes your ability to work or worst case will render you employed. It would leave you applying for social security in the end with a mediocre quality of life, or you can look for a well paid job that doesn't require your ears functioning properly. I can't think of one right now.

Even in the audio industry there are idiots who don't take this seriously. Working at a live event with 126dBC is bound to leave damage to your hearing, as is volutarily exposing it to >85dB SPL for a whole day on a day to day basis.

Acquiring a couple of plugs, preferably custom molds, is way better then turning up the volume to drown out background noise. Why do so may artists choose to wear in ear monitors you think?


RE: Nobody seems to notice this but....
By Hiawa23 on 12/15/2009 11:28:28 AM , Rating: 2
No, what you are saying is nonsense. I'd hate to pay taxes that pay your social security, though will have no choice. This will protect at least a couple against their own stupidity.

You guys make some ridiculous assumptions on these message boards. You would hate to pay the taxes for my social security,LOL. You have no idea what my lifestyle is. You can't limit enough to protect people from their own stupidity. What next, let's ban subwoofers, & amps, as they go real loud or why stop there, up next, smokes, & beer too. All I am saying is you should have a choice to decide for yourself what's good or not for you.


RE: Nobody seems to notice this but....
By Murloc on 12/15/2009 12:59:13 PM , Rating: 2
governements already spend money to try to make ppl stop smoking.
It's forbidden in bars, clubs, restaurants in many countries.


By HostileEffect on 12/15/2009 2:11:18 PM , Rating: 2
Some people like their music to be loud and loudness is the maximum humans can hear and it can not be adjusted by controls.
Maybe some people won't live long enough to know the bad effects of loud music, let them live life full throttle. :)


By Strunf on 12/16/2009 8:37:37 AM , Rating: 2
Governments SAVE a lot of money by stopping people from smoking in public closed spaces.

I would love to see governments enforcing a "contract" that all smokers should sign stating that whatever health problems they get as a direct result of smoking would be payed by them and not the government or their "normal" health insurance.
The same for drinkers (with out responsibility) and many other things... I don't see any reason to be "forced" to pay more cause of someone else stupidity.


By UNHchabo on 12/15/2009 4:33:46 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
No, what you are saying is nonsense. I'd hate to pay taxes that pay your social security, though will have no choice. This will protect at least a couple against their own stupidity.


Or maybe the government should stay out of everyone's hair, so they don't force my electronics to have low output power, and they don't force you to pay for my hearing aid.


By Akrovah on 12/15/2009 7:04:43 PM , Rating: 2
Mediocre quality of life? Really? Just from being ahrd of hearing?

I knew a BLIND man who is a succsseful busines owner entrepenure, former CIA employee, and held/holds some kind of record for blind downhill skiing. Has a wife, 2 kids, and has shaken hands with multiple presidents, and you want to tell me that quality of life will be mediocre just from hearing loss?

And lets not forget, Beethoven eventually went def.

As far as well paid jobs that you can do without hearing:
Just about any office job doesn't REALLY need hearing
Computer Programming
Animation in various forms
Just about any high technology job
I'm sure this list can go on quite a ways

In other words, it is perfectly easy for a def or heard of hearing person to be completely self sufficient without having to leech off the welfare system for thier hearing aids. Let owners of MP3 players make thier own decision as to how they listen to thier music, if they start to loose hearing then they have to deal with it. It is very unlikely that they will suddenly become unemployable and start living off of your tax dollars.


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