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RE: What more do you need?
By NinjaJedi on 11/17/2009 9:40:21 AM , Rating: 2
I agree that most games will not need a quad core. I did check the specs on dragon age origons recently and was shocked to see the recommended specs are core 2 quad @ 2.4 or phenom II tripple-core @ 2.8. The min specs are still only dual core but maybe games are making the transition to using more cores.


RE: What more do you need?
By Leper Messiah on 11/17/2009 10:23:46 AM , Rating: 4
It's all marketing. Planned obsolescence, the average Joe sees that he needs a quad-core to run his kid's latest games and goes out to best buy and buys a new computer.


RE: What more do you need?
By amanojaku on 11/17/2009 11:12:27 AM , Rating: 2
You can get an AMD quad for as little as $100 and an Intel quad for as little as $150. A dual core is literally half that, so it all depends on your wants and needs. $50 is reasonable for the potential performance improvement. I dare you to name any other part besides RAM that can provide noticeable performance improvements for only $50 more.

Anyway, application support isn't the only reason to go multi-core. Operating systems that can use all the cores can balance processes over processors. Imagine having your kernel and all of your drivers on one core, your P2P, er, downloader and AV on another, and your game on two cores.

The same parallel can be drawn for 64-bit. Few applications need 16EiB of RAM, but most applications can use 1-4GB. Instead of sharing RAM at the risk of paging, each 32-bit application can have its own "dedicated" 4GB memory space.

I'll take the quad, thanks. I'm not hurting for $50. :-)


RE: What more do you need?
By dark matter on 11/17/2009 11:37:52 AM , Rating: 2
Just because it says Quad does not automatically make it better than a dual.

Many other factors come into play, such as clock speed, die size, L1 cache.

No doubt you always assume that an 10 megapixel camera beats a 6 megapixel camera.


RE: What more do you need?
By Taft12 on 11/17/2009 1:06:40 PM , Rating: 1
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I'll take the quad, thanks. I'm not hurting for $50.


A passionate post, but in the end you gave the marketers what they wanted one way or another: a sale!


RE: What more do you need?
By Taft12 on 11/17/2009 11:04:38 AM , Rating: 3
Are you sure about that? Looks like the recommended is only a dual-core to me:

http://daforums.bioware.com/viewtopic.html?topic=6...

It's always been true that CPU speed is preferable to more cores for games, and I can't see this changing for a few years yet.


RE: What more do you need?
By RubberJohnny on 11/17/2009 7:41:13 PM , Rating: 2
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It's always been true that CPU speed is preferable to more cores for games, and I can't see this changing for a few years yet.
Sorry, but things have already changed. Time to stop flogging that old horse.
According to http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-balanced...
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the Radeon HD 4870 X2 and all three Nvidia GeForce cards still often required a quad-core processor, such as the Core 2 Quad Q9550, to be balanced in these games...
I wasn't expecting such a great article from Toms, but what it shows is that a core2 quad @ 2.8ghz beats a core2 dual @ 3ghz everytime! (same cache sizes BTW) and obviously games are only going more threaded in the future. Currently i'd only choose a dual over a quad in a budget gaming rig.


RE: What more do you need?
By NinjaJedi on 11/18/2009 10:53:37 AM , Rating: 2
Minimum specs are dual recommended is quad. Link you posted shows this clearly.


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