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The economy has led to a lower number of H-1B visa applications

Thousands of work visas used by the tech and biotech industries remain available for foreign workers, even though the U.S. government began accepting applications more than six months ago.

Out of the 65,000 H-1B visa applications that are up for grabs, only 46,700 applications have been submitted for 2010, according to the government.  The 20,000 visa cap available for foreign students studying in the U.S. who have at least a master's degree was met, though applications are still being accepted.

It wasn't long ago when tech companies begged the government to increase the H-1B visa cap, but that no longer is the case due to a sluggish global economy.

As the tech industry began to feel the economic pinch, Sen. Charles Grassley (R, IA) urged Microsoft to begin slashing jobs belonging to H-1B holders instead of American tech workers.  Although Microsoft initially declined the request by noting job cuts are based on performance and necessity -- not visa status -- it showed how bad the economy was expected to slide.  

Once the economy fully recovers, however, expect future H-1B visa controversy, as Silicon Valley companies begin to hire more foreign workers.  There are still many who believe the H-1B visa allowance at its current level has hurt American technology and science innovation, as less students in the United States are focusing on engineering and science.



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By TechIsGr8 on 11/4/2009 8:32:16 AM , Rating: 2
Makes perfect sense that the numbers would be down, apart from the ailing global economy that the USA single-handedly destroyed. We're sending all our work overseas anyway, why would they want to come to a large near-bankrupt 3rd world fascist nation where there are no jobs? We'll continue to export raw materials and garbage and military weaponry, and we'll let the rest of the world earn good living wages, as they all protect their own working class. But hey, it's not all bad, we get to buy lots of cheap crap!! God Bless our Capitalist Fascism! (Sorry Washington, Jefferson, Adams, etc., you tried your best, we just couldn't keep the huge corporations from taking over our government. Good try, though.)

OK, cue the right wing nutbags...




RE: sure
By IcePickFreak on 11/4/2009 8:52:21 AM , Rating: 1
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But hey, it's not all bad, we get to buy lots of cheap crap!!


We do? Oh right, you mean quality, not price. Any costs savings that are made go directly to CEO bonuses, not passed on to the customer. I haven't seen anything get cheaper except for the quality of products, the prices certainly haven't.


RE: sure
By GourdFreeMan on 11/4/2009 11:53:00 AM , Rating: 2
Well then, surely you won't mind paying European prices the next time you buy computer hardware, games, go to the grocery store or eat out? This will be 48% extra for the former two based on the fact companies seem to treat such purchases as if the dollar and Euro had a 1:1 exchange rate. As for the later two the premium will probably only be in the 20% range... the extra expense goes to pay for the attitude and rudeness of your server.

Oh, and don't forget the VAT!


RE: sure
By TechIsGr8 on 11/4/09, Rating: 0
RE: sure
By B3an on 11/5/2009 8:17:52 AM , Rating: 2
Are you sure you're a yank?? You sound like one of the 6 billion+ people from the rest of the world that says stuff like that about the US. And rightfully so, it's a stain on the face of the planet.


RE: sure
By stubeck on 11/4/2009 6:07:28 PM , Rating: 2
Have you been to Europe? I lived in the UK for a year and a half, and would spend £20 on groceries for 2 weeks, now that I'm back in the US, I spend $100 for the same stuff, or even less. Going out was much cheaper too, I could get an amazing breakfast at a pub for £3, and dinner out for £20 for 3 people was common too.

Hardware was actually cheaper, and games are not that much more expensive either (except for RockBand). It is $60 here for a 360 game, and £40 in the UK. Also, strangely enough, because of the lack of Gamestop there, used game prices plummet, I could get Halo 3 6 months after release for half off, where here it was still $55.

That all included VAT, because its included in all purchases, you don't have to add tax afterwards.


RE: sure
By GourdFreeMan on 11/4/2009 6:36:09 PM , Rating: 2
Even in the UK isn't the MSRP for a console game £50, and the MSRP for a console like the PS3 £250 (which is admittedly less than £300, but still not £180 which the exchange rate would suggest)? I just looked at Amazon UK and I see the Intel G2 160GB SSD is selling for £519.95 ($863.12), whereas I can order one from the Amazon US site for $509.92; the UK price is nearly %70 more for the same product!


RE: sure
By GourdFreeMan on 11/4/2009 7:21:46 PM , Rating: 2
Small edit -- that £300 should have actually read £280 based on the Pound:Euro exchange rate.

Looking at Amazon Deutschland I notice game prices are even worse with most hot new titles (e.g. Uncharted 2, Modern Warfare 2, Batman) going for at or near €60, whereas computer hardware is not quite as insane with that same Intel SSD going for €445,50 ($659.34). Also I would have to ask what sort of groceries you were buying that would cost £20, but $100 in the US. Haggis and sweetbreads?


RE: sure
By stubeck on 11/5/2009 1:03:57 PM , Rating: 2
All games I have bought have been 40 quid or less.

Are you adding tax to those prices? While it is higher in the UK (15% versus 8% in NY) it is already in the price of the console.

Amazon is also not a great indication of prices either.


RE: sure
By FATCamaro on 11/4/2009 9:05:58 AM , Rating: 2
I don't care for this stupid rant, but I have to say there is little incentive for people to go into science, math, and engineering if the career prospects aren't great.

I would like an H1-B only for overpaid professions like lawyers and stock-brockers and have accredited law schools teaching US law all over the world. Their salaries would drop to a pittance and we'd all be better off for it.


RE: sure
By Iaiken on 11/4/2009 10:06:40 AM , Rating: 5
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There is little incentive for people to go into science, math, and engineering if the career prospects aren't great.


I don't seem to have had a problem with my BSC Computer Science. Perhaps, it's just a case of American students being unskilled, uncompetitive and unwilling to start at a reasonable wage?

I didn't start out making 6 figures, I had to prove that I was worth it and I am only 28. However, I started my career as a Jr. Programmer just before college and I've been programming in a professional environment for 12 years.

Not surprisingly, I probably learned more developing real time production line & tracking systems than I did in my entire 4 years of college. College simply gave me the piece of paper that justifies my wage in the minds of management.


RE: sure
By edge929 on 11/5/2009 4:51:13 PM , Rating: 2
I can relate almost exactly to your situation and would agree with your statements on American college students not wanting a more-challenging profession.

If you grew up in India with 1.2 billion other people, then your motivation for excelling over them would probably be higher. Having worked with over 100 H1-B visa professionals, I can tell you that their motivation for higher learning is far superior than the American students I grew up with. From their point-of-view, if you don't have at least one Master's degree, you're under-skilled.


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By HotFoot on 11/4/2009 10:35:40 AM , Rating: 2
I'm not so sure Lawyers are over-priced (well, not all of them anyway). I know you can get a decent lawyer for $150/hour. Well, that's the same charge rate for an Engineer where I come from. There's usually a huge difference between charge rate and take-home pay, of course.


RE: sure
By corduroygt on 11/4/2009 10:55:51 AM , Rating: 1
Except lawyers contribute nothing to society and production/exports, they're only needed because the law is so convoluted and much more complicated than it needs to be.
Laws should be simple enough so that anyone can be their lawyer, maybe except for highly technical cases like patent disputes.

In fact, I believe all the lawyers and judges can be replaced by a well written computer program. I bet the number of misjudged cases won't be any higher than the current system.


RE: sure
By GourdFreeMan on 11/4/2009 12:02:48 PM , Rating: 2
Lawyers don't enhance a nation's ability to fight wars, and maintain a position of strength in peacetime. As a nation why would you be so concerned to attract the best workers in an occupation that does nothing for your survival?


RE: sure
By Kurz on 11/4/2009 9:05:10 AM , Rating: 2
Umm.. I am a bit of Libertarian and I completely agree with what you said. So you can say I am a right wing nutbag.

Though the people that will have the most problems with you is probably the Democrats.


RE: sure
By TechIsGr8 on 11/4/2009 12:05:10 PM , Rating: 1
There is a strange place of agreement, where libertarians agree with liberals, and that has to do with the US sticking their organ, via the military industrial complex, in every warm place around the world it bloody well chooses. The problem I have is that corporate America has taken over the US government. The US Senate is a wholly owned subsidiary of the big banks and insurance companies. We've patterned ourselves after Italy, which goose stepped itself right into fascism with an indistinguishable line between business and government. We have arrived at that place. The phony tea-baggers need to take this up, rather than the crap the lobbyists are staging in this "movement".


RE: sure
By GourdFreeMan on 11/4/2009 12:54:26 PM , Rating: 2
This mythical pre-corporate era would be when, exactly? It certainly had to be before the Revolutionary War transformed a post-feudal hereditary aristocracy into a republic with moneyed-class patricians in homage to pre-imperial Rome. The only time I can possibly think you are talking about it during the duration of the colonists' voyage to the New World while they were still filled with dreams of utopia (lit. "no place"), and didn't have to work to serve (and be bound by the rules of) a larger community to meet their own needs.


RE: sure
By FITCamaro on 11/4/2009 11:12:12 AM , Rating: 1
I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy this one.


RE: sure
By DEVGRU on 11/4/2009 5:55:37 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Makes perfect sense that the numbers would be down, apart from the ailing global economy that the USA single-handedly destroyed. We're sending all our work overseas anyway, why would they want to come to a large near-bankrupt 3rd world fascist nation where there are no jobs? We'll continue to export raw materials and garbage and military weaponry, and we'll let the rest of the world earn good living wages, as they all protect their own working class. But hey, it's not all bad, we get to buy lots of cheap crap!! God Bless our Capitalist Fascism! (Sorry Washington, Jefferson, Adams, etc., you tried your best, we just couldn't keep the huge corporations from taking over our government. Good try, though.)


Osama, is that you???


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