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President Obama controls NASA's destiny, as the U.S. space agency needs at least $3B more per year

A 10-member government panel released a new 157-report that indicates NASA should consider ditching its new rocket, saying its findings can be considered options, not recommendations.

After construction of the International Space Station is completed in 2010, the three space shuttles that make up NASA's fleet will be retired.  The shuttle fleet retirement opens up a several year gap that will force the U.S. space agency to rely on the Russian space program to transport supplies and astronauts to the ISS.

"It's human spaceflight activities are nonetheless at a tipping point, primarily due to a mismatch of goals and resources," according to the Human Spaceflight Program Worthy of a Great Nation report.  "Either additional funds need to be made available or a far more modest program involving little or no exploration needs to be adopted."

The U.S. space agency has put high hopes on its Ares I rockets and Orion spacecraft, but the project severely lacks funds, which has led some to speculate the next-generation launch capsule is a mistake.  The timing of the report's release has proven to be interesting -- Ares is expected to make its first test flight later this month.

Essentially, the future of NASA is now squarely in President Barack Obama's hands, with the president's staff calling on space experts to share their thoughts and ideas.  Congress and the president will now meet to discuss the possibility of boosting NASA's $18.7 billion annual budget to $21.7 billion.



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I saw it coming
By Randomblame on 10/23/2009 11:57:30 AM , Rating: 3
with the proposed health reform bills already putting us a trillion dollars in the hole every year after they pass I don't think that congress is going to want to give nasa any more money. They're probably going to be robbing peter to pay paul on this one. Thanks a lot dems, you've destroyed our economy, spent all our money, instituted new entitlement programs, slapped the free market right across the face, and now you're going to kill the space program. Whats next? Will you instate a bald eagle hunting season?




RE: I saw it coming
By geddarkstorm on 10/23/2009 2:02:37 PM , Rating: 4
This is terribly sad stuff... Regressing so much, losing our capabilities, our will. No longer able to effectively reach space... This country is becoming all sorts of messed up. It really feels like the standard decline any civilization goes through that we seem to be in right now. Question is, if true can it be stopped, and if not, what will we become in the end?

Space is to us now like what the ocean was to people a millennium ago or so. The great world shaping powers of those eras were the ones that mastered the waves, all the way up to the modern times. Then it became those who controlled skies after World War I. Now, it'll be whoever can effectively navigate space. We'll become just a marginalized relic of the past if we let other countries surpass us on that frontier.

We've got a long time before then though. Space is very hard. And there isn't anything like spice trade routes or colonies to set up that can push a race into space, yet. But for our race to advance, it's where we need to go. And the riches that even our near area solar system holds are vastly beyond anything here.


RE: I saw it coming
By SPOOFE on 10/25/2009 7:24:41 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Regressing so much, losing our capabilities

Bah. We lost nothing but the momentum of the post-WWII boom. With the United States emerging from that conflict as the only significant industrial power on Earth without massive damage to its material infrastructure, we had growth and prosperity handed to us on a silver platter. It also gave us three generations of Americans who assumed constant economic expansion was a given, and not something that needs constant effort and vigilance to maintain.


RE: I saw it coming
By Samus on 10/23/2009 2:02:46 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Thanks a lot dems, you've destroyed our economy, spent all our money, instituted new entitlement programs, slapped the free market right across the face, and now you're going to kill the space program.


Just for the record, The Bush Administration set a record-breaking 2.7 TRILLION DOLLAR deficit over the 8 years navigating this country. Over 1.5 TRILLION went to Afghanistan and Iraq alone. None of this is even reflective of the damage by 9/11 on our economy from the cost of the towers falling, damage to tourism and the airline industry, etc. Gas prices TRIPLED for the majority of Bush's reign. All of these things slowly damaged the economy and once again...

The democrats are here to clean it up, and all people do is give them shit, even when they spend our tax dollars HERE instead of on some small country that didn't want our help in the first place.

I support a two party system, the freedom to choose based on values and what the country needs. But it always seems the timing is off for the party that is in control.


RE: I saw it coming
By Seemonkeyscanfly on 10/23/09, Rating: -1
RE: I saw it coming
By ianweck on 10/25/2009 4:07:30 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Projected Receipts for Fiscal Year 2009 are $1.9 trillion leaving the U.S. with a $1.7 trillion deficit if Obama’s $3.6 trillion Outlay budget becomes reality. That means his budget plan projects a one year deficit that is almost as large as the accumulated deficit of George W. Bush’s two terms in office.


http://www.babeled.com/2009/03/28/historical-us-fe...

Hmmm, 2.7Trillion over eight years vs. 1.7Trillion over less than one year.
Democrats here to clean it up? I hope you're right.
We'll see...


RE: I saw it coming
By SPOOFE on 10/25/2009 7:26:04 PM , Rating: 1
I once joined a blackjack game and cleaned up, too. Boy, were those other guys mad to see me walking away with their money...


RE: I saw it coming
By zerocool84 on 10/23/09, Rating: 0
RE: I saw it coming
By Seemonkeyscanfly on 10/23/2009 5:06:02 PM , Rating: 2
He blames the Democrats because they were in control of congress for the major of the years. Ultimately the two houses control the state of the economy, not the president. The president leads, the houses make the laws and conditions we live under.


RE: I saw it coming
By SiliconAddict on 10/23/2009 11:41:46 PM , Rating: 2
What the fuck are you smoking? The republicans controlled the house since '95. And they have had the house and Senate from 2002-2006. Ahh republican revisionist history. Next you will tell me we went into Iraq to liberate its people. That whole WMD thing was really a Democrat rumor and Bush never went on TV to explain how we needed to invade Iraq because of those WMD's. Right.

Here http://uspolitics.about.com/od/usgovernment/l/bl_p...


RE: I saw it coming
By ianweck on 10/25/2009 3:53:42 PM , Rating: 2
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And they have had the house and Senate from 2002-2006.


And the Dems have had it since Jan. 2007. Might want to check your calendar, that was almost three years ago.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic...


RE: I saw it coming
By SPOOFE on 10/25/2009 7:28:17 PM , Rating: 2
Republicans didn't want to require banks to give loans to people that couldn't pay them back.


RE: I saw it coming
By Steve73 on 10/23/2009 4:55:42 PM , Rating: 2
Dems and Reps are to blame for how screwed up our financial system is and becoming. We need to throw both parties out. One party is for gradual enlargement of the government, while the other is full out socialism. Either way each party is leading us down the wrong path, away from the principles of what this Republic was founded on.


RE: I saw it coming
By Seemonkeyscanfly on 10/23/2009 6:19:12 PM , Rating: 2
This Republic... I think we lost the Republic at least 70 maybe 80 years ago... :)

We do need a new party. One the understand they are for the people... not the current people are for them attitude. Agreed both parties have messed up over last 70 years, even more last 20 years. These current "leaders" are so out of touch with the "common" man you would meet on the street, it's not even funny.


RE: I saw it coming
By rlandess on 10/23/2009 7:13:38 PM , Rating: 3
C'mon, The real problem is that people are rapidly getting dumber by the minute. I think politicians are faithfully representing the people. Soon thanks to mediocre school systems and generation after generation of lousy parenting we'll all be experiencing Idiocracy first-hand. EVERYONE HERE KNOWS IT'S TRUE.


RE: I saw it coming
By MrJim on 10/24/2009 7:59:37 AM , Rating: 2
The free market did splendid work these last 3-4 years in the world.


RE: I saw it coming
By CheesePoofs on 10/25/2009 8:48:42 PM , Rating: 2
You can't see it coming if it hasn't happened yet ... you're simply wrong, Obama is expected to increase the funding to NASA in light of this report.

Please research before whining.

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n0910/07obama/


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