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Sun Microsystems plans to cut 3,000 jobs as its acquisition by Oracle remains on hold

Server manufacturer Sun Microsystems announced it will cut 3,000 jobs in the next year as European regulators take a closer look as software maker Oracle tries to finalize its acquisition of Sun.

The job reduction was listed in the company's latest filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.  Sun has slashed thousands of jobs across the world over the past few years, attempting to reduce losses as its open source software and servers lose marketshare to competitors.

Oracle CEO Larry Ellison said Sun is losing nearly $100 million per month, and will continue to lose money as regulators wait to close the $7 billion deal.  Sun said it will have to suffer $75 million to $125 million charges each quarter if a deal isn't reached.  

The acquisition was welcomed by analysts, who note Oracle being able to fold Sun's software -- and struggling hardware business unit -- will give the company yet another tool to compete with IBM.

Even though the European regulators are still investigating the acquisition, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger endorsed the deal, which he says could help spur technological innovation in the state.

EU regulators remain concerned a possible deal would give Oracle a monopoly, offering it an unfair advantage in the database software market that it already controls.  Reports indicate a final decision from regulators will be available by Sunday, November 19.

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RE: Marketshare...
By Pirks on 10/21/2009 1:28:05 PM , Rating: 1
far outpacing .NET
That's bad news, I just tried Java after 8 year break (been doing C++ and C# jobs since 2001) and it is the same piece of s#it as it were back in those old days of Java 2.0 and JFC 1.0.

Just compare dumb overly verbose and syntactically complex JAXB with short and elegant XML serialization in .Net, this is sky and earth guys!

Then compare sloooowwww P.O.S. resource hog Netbeans with ultra fast VS2008 with mush better docs support as well.

No way I'm touching Sun's excreta again, ever. Given choice between low salary .Net job and high salary Java job I'd go for .Net hands down, no hesitations. Masochists who like Sun's excreta are welcome to get higher salary and get screwed as usual. Elegance and beautiful REASONABLE system/language/platform design are worth much more for me than just money.

RE: Marketshare...
By Pirks on 10/21/2009 1:38:07 PM , Rating: 2
Also compare beauty and power of Directory.GetFiles() in .Net with insane drap you have to write with FilenameFilters in Java, this is as clownish as it gets! FU Sun, if MS beats the drap outta you I'd be the first one cheering.

Too bad MS hasn't suffocated ugly caffeine bastard in cradle, stupid BG, where was he looking? *mad*

RE: Marketshare...
By TomZ on 10/21/2009 1:45:31 PM , Rating: 2
I couldn't agree more. It's easy to eschew all the virtues of Java, so long as you are ignorant about .NET. But if you've used both you realize that .NET is better in a lot of ways Java.

Really, the only advantage I can think of with Java is the large quantity of decent-quality free libraries. That market is developing for .NET but is not as far along. Other comparisons I think largely favor .NET in my experience.

And I also discount the dogma associated with the "proprietary vs. open" argument. So long as proprietary technology is well-managed and easily accessable, avoiding it purely based on fear is kind of dumb, if you ask me.

And I will also point out that Java achieved its greatest success while it was still a proprietary environment/language.

RE: Marketshare...
By ksuWildcat on 10/21/2009 3:39:42 PM , Rating: 2
But there are associated problems with .NET, namely the lack of cross-platform compatibility and vendor lock-in. And if security and scalable performance under Linux is important (it is for most enterprise work), Java has no equal.

RE: Marketshare...
By Taft12 on 10/21/2009 5:34:26 PM , Rating: 2
About to say the same thing, .NET is a fine development framework... unless your app needs to run on UNIX!

RE: Marketshare...
By Pirks on 10/21/2009 6:44:18 PM , Rating: 2
RE: Marketshare...
By ksuWildcat on 10/22/2009 9:19:06 AM , Rating: 2
Mono is not actually fully compatible with all of .NET's APIs, which is a big problem if you to write cross-platform code that actually runs. Maybe if Microsoft opens up .NET's code behind the APIs and CLR, that will change, but for now, Java is still the best solution for writing code that will run on *nix or Windows or Solaris.

RE: Marketshare...
By ksuWildcat on 10/21/2009 3:34:25 PM , Rating: 2
While C#/.NET has clearly refined OO Java and C++ in many ways, Java still has many advantages such as WORA and a runtime that supports even newer languages (SCALA has very bright future, and it addresses the shortcomings of both Java and C#). Another thing that people fail to remember is that Sun had to make many compromises in order to make Java cross-platform, something that Microsoft did not do with .NET.

I don't think that you've used Netbeans recently, it is quite fast and is no more a resource hog then VS or WDSC. And the plugin architecture is second to none.

That being said, people use the right tools for the job. If it's C# or Java, that doesn't really matter.

RE: Marketshare...
By rdawise on 10/21/2009 11:47:29 PM , Rating: 2
You took the words right out of my mouth. Netbeans (recently) takes up about just as much resources as Visual Studio 2008.

Java is good is you don't want to worry about which platform you app will run on.
.Net is good when your main concern is Windows (which is upwards of 80% of the market).

RE: Marketshare...
By Pirks on 10/22/2009 12:29:51 AM , Rating: 1 ==>> .Net is good is you don't want to worry about which platform you app will run on ;)

RE: Marketshare...
By ksuWildcat on 10/22/2009 9:25:18 AM , Rating: 2
Mono and .NET are NOT fully compatible...only a subset of the public APIs are actually interoperable. This is a big problem in the enterprise world, where most don't use Windows Server.

RE: Marketshare...
By ksuWildcat on 10/22/2009 9:41:38 AM , Rating: 2
Depends on which market you look at. According to Netcraft and IDC reports, Apache is running about 55% of all public sites on the net, compared to roughly 23% for Microsoft IIS/.NET as of Oct 2009. In the enterprise market, it looks like Apache/Java EE dominates with close to an 80% share.

Looking at the available programming jobs online (Java vs .NET) and compensation packages, I'd say that these numbers are fairly accurate.

RE: Marketshare...
By TomZ on 10/22/2009 1:36:42 PM , Rating: 2
Where are you getting that 80% figure from? For example, here's an IDC press release that shows Windows having a 37% market share in the first quarter:

Microsoft Windows server revenue was $3.7 billion in 1Q09 showing a 28.9% year-over-year decline and comprising 37.3% of all server revenue in the quarter.

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