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Write speed problems may mean no SSD price drops until next year

Many potential SSD customers have been waiting for 32nm NAND flash production to increase significantly before they make a purchasing decision. The new smaller chips are much cheaper to make, which would lower the price of SSDs made using those components.

Samsung is the world's largest producer of NAND flash chips used in SSDs, but there is a very large fly in the ointment. DailyTech spoke with half a dozen companies in the SSD market that use Samsung's flash chips, and the results are troubling.

All of the companies we spoke with noted significant write speed issues with Samsung's 32nm flash. The problems are so bad that these SSD makers are unable to use them in their SSDs, which means that they have to source chips from other flash manufacturers like IM Flash Tech and Toshiba.

"Of course every transition to a new process has its problems," stated one source who requested anonymity. "We just weren't expecting it to be this slow".

32nm NAND produced by Toshiba was also initially slow and problematic. However, most of those write speed problems have been resolved. Some of those chips will make its way into drives like OCZ's Agility series.

Meanwhile, Intel and Micron are reaping huge sales from production of 34nm NAND from their IMFT joint venture. SSD prices from rivals like OCZ and Super Talent dropped significantly after Intel introduced their second generation X25-M SSD using those chips.

All is not lost for Samsung though. The company is hard at work finding a solution, and it is still trying to sell those chips in the embedded market. However, time is running out as productions deadlines to meet the Windows 7 launch and critical Christmas shopping season are both approaching.

A major hardware refresh cycle is coming soon, with new CPUs from Intel, cheap DDR3, DirectX 11 hardware, and a much improved operating system all coming together to tempt consumers. Making SSDs a part of a new build or upgrade may prove irresistible, regardless of the cost.

Update: Samsung has responded to this article, which is available here.



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RE: Last paragraph
By kattanna on 9/30/2009 12:01:07 PM , Rating: 2
yep.. im just waiting to complete my monster by adding in either a 5870 or 5850.

already have dual SSD's, top end AMD quadcore, 8GB ram, and win 7 64bit ultimate RTM installed, all sitting in my antec 1200 case. i love how it projects a light blue honeycomb on the walls and ceiling around it when the room lights are off.

even without my new card.. the machine is a damn beautiful beast to behold and work/play on.


RE: Last paragraph
By Nexos on 9/30/2009 1:32:16 PM , Rating: 4
You are, like, EVER so awesome.


RE: Last paragraph
By quiksilvr on 9/30/2009 1:36:27 PM , Rating: 2
Lol. I love it when people brag about how awesome their computer looks. Its shows to me that despite my insanity, there are others crazier than me :D


RE: Last paragraph
By kattanna on 9/30/2009 1:39:37 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
You are, like, EVER so awesome.


LOL more like.. ever so broke now..

i dont use it as a measure of an epeen or anything, but i do take pride in my work


RE: Last paragraph
By MrPoletski on 10/1/2009 8:35:14 AM , Rating: 2
Sarcasm detection failure detected...


RE: Last paragraph
By Reclaimer77 on 9/30/09, Rating: -1
RE: Last paragraph
By tastyratz on 9/30/2009 2:14:44 PM , Rating: 2
The appropriate benchmarks ARE real world applications for videocards if you read a good nonbiased reviews.

ATI cards and nvidia cards seem to just tug of war back and forth at the top of the value castle and have for several years. If your best bang for the buck is ati or nvidia at one time, give it a year and that will flip.


RE: Last paragraph
By ClownPuncher on 9/30/2009 3:44:41 PM , Rating: 2
Try actually wiping all of the Nv drivers out of your system completely before installing an ATi card. The 4870 is far better than a 9800 GT at everything. Current ATi drivers are quite good.


RE: Last paragraph
By MrPoletski on 10/1/09, Rating: 0
RE: Last paragraph
By safcman84 on 10/1/2009 5:52:54 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
yep.. im just waiting to complete my monster by adding in either a 5870 or 5850. already have dual SSD's, top end AMD quadcore, 8GB ram, and win 7 64bit ultimate RTM installed, all sitting in my antec 1200 case.


I'm all for using an AMD CPU when u are looking to get a budget build.

But you spend serious cash on 2 SSDs, 8gb of RAM + damned expensive case (I know, I have one), but skimp on the CPU to save yourself 100$ ?

Thats like buying a ferrari, but not getting the MP3 radio cos it costs 100$ more than the non-mp3 model.....


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