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Motion controller and even Dreamcast exclusives may arrive in the near future

Sony's recent console update, the PS3 Slim, has been called "The Worst Kept Secret of the Internet," as pictures of the unit's box were originally leaked nearly four months before its official release. Now that the Slim is available for public purchase, another juicy leak has sprung up giving hints at Sony's direction for the future, no doubt to the chagrin of SCEA head Jack Tretton.

The current leak comes via the Sega of America FTP website. Published notes from a meeting with Sony Computer Entertainment America (SCEA) that took place August 5th were temporarily available on the SEGA PR FTP site; the document "scea_meeting_aug_5th_notes_bh.doc" has since been pulled from the FTP site, but several copies were downloaded before it was removed. Announcements were made about several upcoming games and potential console bundles for both the PSP and PS3, but the most interesting parts are Sony's plans for a PS3 motion controller, PS2 emulation on the PS3, and even Dreamcast titles on the PlayStation Network.

The meeting minutes refer to Sony's upcoming motion-sensing device as a "motion controller" indicating that it will more closely resemble Nintendo's Wii Remote rather than Microsoft's Project Natal. Sega's "Virtua Tennis" is indicated as a piece of software that would "work well" with the device. Plans are to launch the device in spring of 2010, with plans to offer a bundle with PS3 hardware and projected sales of 4-5 million units worldwide.

Tagged as "Confidential" in the minutes is the "PS2 Emulator for PS3" heading, beneath which can be found quite possibly the most significant leak of the entire memo - SCEA's intent to offer the entire range of PS2 titles via the PlayStation Network. There is no mention of an ability to play disc-based PS2 titles, but the presence of an emulator on the PS3 hardware at least gives it the potential for the future.

Previous Dreamcast titles such as Rez, Ikaruga, and Soul Caliber have appeared on XBLA in the past, but Sony appears to be seeking exclusivity for Dreamcast titles, with promises of marketing support in exchange for the exclusivity.

The full content of the meeting minutes can be found circulating the Internet; neither SCEA nor SEGA have made any official response to the leaks at this time.



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RE: Nickels and Dimes
By Pyro Yuy on 9/24/2009 11:12:10 AM , Rating: 1
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First of all, Sony delivered on full backwards compatibility with the launch PS3s, and kept models that had at least "pretty good" b.c. for several years.


It's only been out for 3 years, and they only did BC for about a year and a half tops.

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Second, most PS3 owners I know find that they aren't playing their PS2 games after a while. No surprise here--the PS3 games are much better with few exceptions. So maybe backwards compatibility 3 years after the launch of a next-gen system isn't as important anymore (there are plenty of PS3 games, now).


Yeah, that's cause they couldn't.

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Fourth, people had their chance to buy the backwards compatible models. But prices were too high, and Sony needed to stop burning money at the same time as lowering price. Removing the PS2 hardware helped them do this. Although playing PS2 games was a selling point originally, obviously it wasn't a big enough deal to get people to pay $500-$600. The bottom line is most users want to play the PS3 games and it's waste of their/Sony's money to include those chips when they will never be used. It's the pragmatic choice, and it probably helped with the conversion to the Slim.


And not everyone had a chance, I was deployed to the sandbox most the entire time the BC versions were out, I was only around for the initial release. Or even a better case, you get it stolen!!! Then how will you get a BC one to replace it other than paying triple of what it was originally worth. (okay, you can pick one up for about four and a quarter at gamestop last I checked, but they never have one in)

Hey, wipe your chin off, you got something there.

Now I'm jumping off your back... and onto the back of sony.
They were trying to push the fact that the PS3 was a better deal per $ than the 360. Fanbois were crying about that, but always forgot the $100 acessory that did BC for them... oh I mean a ps2!

But if they did do BC again, I would be happy, I'd have one less consol stuck to my TV, and hopefully suck up less power.

Funny thing, I only made this account to post this...

And about that guy saying the DC was out dated... sure it's old, but it's the first consol to do HD.


RE: Nickels and Dimes
By adiposity on 9/24/2009 2:47:40 PM , Rating: 2
You can still get PS3 60GB on ebay easily. They don't cost that much, either (just checked, there are some for $330 buy it now). So don't whine too much...

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Yeah, that's cause they couldn't.


All my friends have launch PS3s, except one that bought an 80GB (which still has b.c., and works on all his games but one). So no, they can play PS2 games, just don't.

I agree it sucks there's no b.c., maybe they will add it back when it gets cheaper. But for now the important thing is to help people who want PS3 games, get PS3s cheap. If you want PS2 games, PS2s are still out there. And so are 60GB PS3s if that's what you want...

BTW, my first 20GB ps3 WAS stolen. From my house. I bought another on ebay about a year ago. No problem.

-Dan


RE: Nickels and Dimes
By ExarKun333 on 9/24/2009 4:24:48 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, please let me buy an old (and probably) used PS3 built on old technology that uses a lot more power so I can play PS2 games.

Your whole argument is FAIL.

Sony needs to wise-up and provide BC on all their SKUs. I really don't care if they also offer the ability to buy games online, but at least let us play our discs on the PS3 system. The PS3 games suck anyway, so why not let us play some good titles on it?


RE: Nickels and Dimes
By adiposity on 9/24/2009 6:48:10 PM , Rating: 2
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Your whole argument is FAIL.

Sony needs to wise-up and provide BC on all their SKUs. I really don't care if they also offer the ability to buy games online, but at least let us play our discs on the PS3 system. The PS3 games suck anyway, so why not let us play some good titles on it?


If PS3 games all suck, why don't you just get a PS2? You don't make any sense...

Sony did wise up, they realized that offering b.c. was not selling their systems. More consoles per month have sold since they dropped the bc, so obviously they were right.

As for "old technology," the 60/20 models are fine. They are quiet and reliable. The only thing "new" about the $300 model is smaller chip size, and honestly...who cares unless you are worried about $2 on your power bill?

-Dan


RE: Nickels and Dimes
By MrPoletski on 9/28/2009 10:45:11 AM , Rating: 2
Can everybody please not forget that emulation of another piece of hardware is no simple task and PS2 emulation has always been extremely difficult on every platform that has tried it .


RE: Nickels and Dimes
By afkrotch on 9/25/2009 4:35:03 AM , Rating: 2
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Now I'm jumping off your back... and onto the back of sony.
They were trying to push the fact that the PS3 was a better deal per $ than the 360. Fanbois were crying about that, but always forgot the $100 acessory that did BC for them... oh I mean a ps2!


Pretty much just about everyone who was willing to pay $400+ on a PS3, already had a PS2. Hell, I had two PS2s, when I bought the PS3.

As of right now, I still have two PS2s, since the PS3 doesn't support PS2 controllers.

The PS3 launched with almost 100% BC, then shifted to their software BC. Now, none. 360 launched with crap BC, which they fixed up, but even then, it was never as good as Sony's original hardware BC. Complaints seem pretty muffled on that front.


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