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Microsoft to offer upgrades to Windows 7 for $30 to college students.
Its a good time to be a student, thanks in part to a sweet Windows 7 discount from Microsoft

Windows 7 is getting closer to its October 22 launch date.  With improved security, better compatibility, and a slick new look, the OS should please owners of both powerful and underpowered machines alike.  Microsoft has already offered hot pre-order deals, but now it has announced its sweetest deal of them all.

Students with a valid student email address are eligible to get a copy of Windows 7 Home Premium or Professional, 32-bit or 64-bit (your choice, presumably some might pick the lighter Home Premium for netbooks) for a mere $30.  And with one announcement, Microsoft has essentially matched Apple's OS price point for one of its most pivotal demographics -- students.

Apple beat Windows 7 to the market and has been loudly trumpeting that its Snow Leopard -- priced at $29 per license -- beats Windows 7 in prices.  However, students in the U.S., U.K, Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Korea and Mexico will now have their pick between the two competitors at virtually identical prices.

With Snow Leopard, students will get several key improvements (virtually all of Apple's core software was fine-tuned and sped up), but the release falls somewhere between a full Windows OS release and a Windows Service Pack.  For an equivalent price they can get Windows 7, a full OS release packing many features that have drawn rave reviews from early adopters.  The deal is sweet for users of traditional PC hardware and Macs alike, as even Mac users can take advantage of it to equip their Boot Camp Macs with Windows 7 for gaming and Windows-favored activities.

The deal is found on the win741.com site, a recently launched site from Microsoft, which calls the offer "too sweet to pass up."  The site proclaims, "For a limited time, eligible college students can get the sweetest deal on Windows 7 - for only $29.99 USD.  That's less than most of your textbooks! Hurry -- offer ends January 3, 2010 and 12 a.m. CST."

One major appeal of the deal is that with Windows 7 and a netbook, students get about the most portable and affordable bundle possible for a fully functional computer.

The move seems a smart one, given that Apple does have Microsoft beat on standard prices, with a copy of Home Premium (upgrade) retailing for $120 and $200 for a Professional upgrade (versus $29 for Snow Leopard).  With the price bar set nearly four times as high as Apple's, the pressure is on Microsoft to deliver a dynamite product -- which indications show it will.

Still, Snow Leopard's aggressive pricing has caused it to double the initial sales of its predecessor, Leopard, and quadruple the sales of Tiger.  Apple has also been much more aggressive in targeting school children, with programs such as "Field Trip to the Apple Store" in the U.S. and Canada.  Many schools continue to use Mac computers primarily.  All of this bodes well for Apple's long term success.  However, Microsoft is at last making a legitimate bid to seize this important demographic from Apple.



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Nice
By damianrobertjones on 9/18/2009 11:19:27 AM , Rating: 5
A great way to get great press and a perfect way to stick it to apple.

Well done MS.

Then again, I'm not a student. Dammit.




RE: Nice
By scooterlibby on 9/18/2009 11:26:00 AM , Rating: 3
Noob question here, but, because it is the upgrade, I cannot do a fresh install, correct? My understanding is that I have to first have Vista installed and then use the upgrade.


RE: Nice
By Protocept00 on 9/18/2009 11:45:12 AM , Rating: 2
I could also use some clarification on this. As I understand so far, an upgrade license is not the same as an "in-place" upgrade. An upgrade license is a cheaper price on a newer operating systems for owners of older Windows Software as specified by Microsoft. Correct me if I'm wrong.


RE: Nice
By orgy08 on 9/18/2009 12:24:38 PM , Rating: 2
I would like to know also. I'm planning on building a new computer in a couple of months, which means I would need the full version? I will most likely get the OEM full install, but if the $30 student version will help, I would rather get that.


RE: Nice
By damianrobertjones on 9/18/2009 1:12:45 PM , Rating: 2
RE: Nice
By damianrobertjones on 9/18/2009 1:16:05 PM , Rating: 2
RE: Nice
By TomZ on 9/18/2009 1:31:53 PM , Rating: 5
FYI, the DailyTech website already shortens the display text for long links, so there's generally no need to using tinyurl links.


RE: Nice
By damianrobertjones on 9/18/2009 4:28:09 PM , Rating: 4
Yay. ...But I like using tinyurl.com!?

Oh well


RE: Nice
By Lifted on 9/19/2009 4:27:24 AM , Rating: 5
Fair enough, but some people don't like to click on links when they don't know where they go. And installing an add-on to figure out where they go is not always an option either.


RE: Nice
By monkeyman1140 on 9/21/2009 4:28:48 PM , Rating: 2
Given the existence of websites like lemonparty and meatspin, i NEVER click on tinyurls...


RE: Nice
By JPForums on 9/21/2009 7:55:57 AM , Rating: 2
$30 would be great, but make sure you don't need Professional as I can't seem to find it there.

quote:
Students with a valid student email address are eligible to get a copy of Windows 7 Home Premium or Professional, 32-bit or 64-bit (your choice, presumably some might pick the lighter Home Premium for netbooks) for a mere $30.


I went to the website and all I see is Home Premium. If you can really get Professional, as the author suggests, please show me how. I can build websites, but it seems I'm incapable of navigating them properly.


RE: Nice
By JPForums on 9/21/2009 8:02:20 AM , Rating: 2
I should clarify that I do see some info regarding Professional, but when I click to buy, it takes me to a page where it asks for my e-mail address and shows Home Premium.

I could be that they give you the choice later, but I'd rather not submit my credentials until I know whether or not this will saddle me to Home Premium.


RE: Nice
By weskurtz0081 on 9/21/2009 12:40:50 PM , Rating: 4
I actually just found the Profession option. In a yellow bar below Home Premium, it asks if you need to join your school network domain, and if you click that Professional pops up instead. It seems they are trying to steer people towards Home Premium instead of Pro.


RE: Nice
By Jacerie on 9/21/2009 1:59:44 PM , Rating: 2
This is not such a big deal when you stop to think about how very few people need to actually join their computers to a domain. Seeing as how this deal is for students, I would highly doubt that the majority of them would ever need this functionality. Yes, there will be exceptions where you have CS/IS students with their own domains, and possibly being connected directly to one of the campus domains, but definitely not the norm.


RE: Nice
By weskurtz0081 on 9/21/2009 2:19:46 PM , Rating: 2
It's not a big deal at all, merely an observation.


RE: Nice
By sebmel on 9/18/2009 1:12:55 PM , Rating: 2
I'm interested in knowing if clear instals are possible with this upgrade disc, too.

Just a note: the Apple DVD is sold as upgrade but does clean instals without and serial number, LAN checks or internet/phone activation. So, is that what this what Microsoft offers too?


RE: Nice
By damianrobertjones on 9/18/2009 4:30:27 PM , Rating: 1
Then again, you can use the upgrade on any pc with many, many different configs. Does apple offer that as well?


RE: Nice
By Smilin on 9/18/2009 4:45:12 PM , Rating: 2
MS has always allowed a clean install with upgrade media. You just need to own the previous version. Nothing new here.


RE: Nice
By Diesel Donkey on 9/18/2009 5:04:21 PM , Rating: 3
I think it actually is different this time around. This time you need to have the old OS installed before you can upgrade. What I mean is that it's no longer enough just to enter the old serial number while installing the upgrade.


RE: Nice
By Spivonious on 9/18/2009 1:17:07 PM , Rating: 3
You can do a clean install with the upgrade but you will need Vista installed on the machine. A simple disc check no longer does the trick.

Although, the rumor is that the old Vista trick will work with 7. You clean install 7 without entering the serial number or activating. Then you install 7 again and it finds the existing 7 install as a valid upgradeable OS.


RE: Nice
By The0ne on 9/18/2009 1:26:54 PM , Rating: 2
What you've just stated isn't a "clean" install, but nice tips.


RE: Nice
By therealnickdanger on 9/18/2009 1:36:08 PM , Rating: 2
As I understand it, both Vista and 7 do a clean install even when upgrading. Unlike XP, Vista and 7 are both image-installations for starters. Both installers will completely overwrite the volume with the new OS and wipe leftover data, saving you the step of DBAN-ing (or whatever your preferred wipe method is). There is little to no benefit to performing a "clean" install.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2089952...


RE: Nice
By Silver2k7 on 9/19/2009 3:18:49 AM , Rating: 3
"As I understand it, both Vista and 7 do a clean install even when upgrading."

"Both installers will completely overwrite the volume with the new OS and wipe leftover data"

So you still need to have an installed os.. would be better if you just had to enter your old serial number when installing the upgrade version.


RE: Nice
By therealnickdanger on 9/21/2009 5:21:19 AM , Rating: 2
Oh, I thought he was complaining that you couldn't do a clean install with the upgrade.


RE: Nice
By Nekrik on 9/18/2009 1:30:57 PM , Rating: 3
That's not accurate, the link posted above has the details on how to do a clean install. If you have Vista you can do an in-place upgrade, if you have XP or don't want to do an in-place upgrade you can do a clean install (save your data first). Here's the link from above with the info, it's about the middle of the article:

http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-s...


RE: Nice
By geddarkstorm on 9/18/2009 4:16:43 PM , Rating: 2
According to Ars, if you have Windows XP you can buy and use the cheaper upgrade version (what is offered here), you'll just have to do a fresh install rather than direct upgrade, which the "upgrade" version disc can do (called custom install). http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/02/upgr...


RE: Nice
By walk2k on 9/19/2009 3:36:37 PM , Rating: 2
Yes you must have Vista installed - OR- Windows7 RC but only if you buy the "Ultimate" version since that's what RC is (you can't upgrade from one tier to another, ie "Home" to "Business" etc).

You cannot upgrade from XP or earlier windows at all.


RE: Nice
By amandahugnkiss on 9/19/2009 6:11:22 PM , Rating: 2
That is flat out wrong information you are giving out. As several other people posted links above, here is how to do a clean install from XP with the Win7 upgrade disks:

http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-s...

If you already have Vista installed you can do an in-place upgrade, if you have XP you must do a clean install with the Win7 upgrade DVD.


RE: Nice
By hadifa on 9/24/2009 1:49:58 AM , Rating: 3
I went to the link and this seems to not be the upgrade version but rather the full windows 7 where you can do a clean install. Nowhere it says upgrade and the FAQ seems to be geared towards full version. For example:

From their FAQ:

My PC is running Windows XP. Can I upgrade it to Windows 7?

If you’re thinking about upgrading a PC from Windows XP to Windows 7, please download and run the free Windows Upgrade Advisor to see if your PC can run Windows 7 acceptably.

If you decide to install Windows 7 on a PC running Windows XP, you’ll need to do a custom installation. This is sometimes called a “clean install” because it erases the contents of your PC. To avoid losing anything, you’ll need to make copies of all the files, photos, and other information you want to keep. You’ll also need to have installation disks for all the programs you want to use.


RE: Nice
By koenshaku on 9/18/09, Rating: -1
RE: Nice
By BrandtTheMan on 9/18/2009 2:00:40 PM , Rating: 1
So no one has a true answer then? Come on D-T :)


RE: Nice
By TomZ on 9/18/2009 2:25:44 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
I am typing this on snow leopard too..
No need to apologize. :o)


RE: Nice
By blwest on 9/19/09, Rating: 0
RE: Nice
By hiscross on 9/18/09, Rating: -1
RE: Nice
By dark matter on 9/18/2009 2:29:39 PM , Rating: 5
Actually the really smart students wouldn't dream of using peer 2 peer to get their warez. Obviously I cannot condone piracy so I can't let you in on the secret. ;)


RE: Nice
By anotherdude on 9/18/2009 2:30:45 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
The Smart students use pirate bay and load windoze on the VM or bootcamp partition.


If by smart you mean 'thieving smug Mactard' then yes, very smart


RE: Nice
By SiliconAddict on 9/19/2009 1:51:56 AM , Rating: 1
I prefer iTards. It stays consistent with Apple's themeing.


RE: Nice
By Totally on 9/18/2009 4:30:43 PM , Rating: 2
Actually, Pirate Bay, totally dumb. Especially when round 3 of lawsuits are being doled out.


RE: Nice
By damianrobertjones on 9/18/2009 4:36:24 PM , Rating: 4
WHat a bunch of crap. Being smart has NOTHING to do with running a damn computer. Heck, a person may never have even used a computer and still be smart.

Sick to the teeth of all this rubbish. Waa, apple is better, waa MS is better. Waaahhh, XBOX360, Waaahh PS3

GET A LIFE. I must now also do the same :)


RE: Nice
By themaster08 on 9/20/2009 5:13:44 AM , Rating: 1
There's something that baffles me here...

You spend 3 grand on an underpowered, unproductive system, but can't find the extra $30 to make that clown of a computer something worth using.

You call that being smart?

Then again, smart people wouldn't choose a Mac at all if they needed to use Windows.


RE: Nice
By Entropy42 on 9/18/2009 4:36:42 PM , Rating: 2
Even with a .edu email address, note that they reserve the right to ask you for proof of enrollment (at least .5 credits) and charge you the difference between $30 and full retail if you can't/won't provide that proof.


RE: Nice
By jhb116 on 9/18/2009 6:12:43 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah but - It would have been fantastic if they would have gone to 28.98 and then poke Apple on their advertising. :)


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