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Government could reap a wealth of information from its citizens

Every day millions across the country navigate to government webpages, to read pertinent information. Since 2000 that access has been safeguarded, thanks to a prohibition on government websites using cookies or other tracking technology to track users.  Agency exceptions could only be granted under cases of "compelling need".

Now the Obama administration is looking to overturn that prohibition and potentially begin harvesting a wealth of data on its citizen's activities.  Under the plan, the prohibition would be replaced with a set of privacy provisions.  Aides say that it would increase government transparency and "increase public involvement".

The measure, though, has many opponents.  The American Civil Liberties Union spokesman Michael Macleod-Ball commented that the measure would "allow the mass collection of personal information of every user of a federal government website."

Other opponents dislike that the government may be looking to revoke the protections at the request of search-engine giant Google and other parties.  The Electronic Privacy Information Center and Electronic Frontier Foundation, both of which oppose the measure, pointed to a February 19 contract with Google and an unnamed federal agency over an exemption to use the YouTube player.

EPIC retrieved the proposed changes, negotiated by the General Services Administration, through a Freedom of Information Act request and says they "expressly waive those rules or guidelines as they may apply to Google."  States EPIC Executive Director Marc Rotenberg, "Our primary concern is that the GSA has failed to protect the privacy rights of U.S. citizens.  The expectation is they should be complying with the government regulations, not that the government should change its regulations to accommodate these companies."

Currently, government content is banned from having tracking cookies, but third-party content, such as YouTube videos on federal websites may have tracking cookies.  Google spokeswoman Christine Chen declined to discuss the new rules, but thanked the government for its use of YouTube, stating, "[The use of YouTube] is just one example of how government and citizens communicate more effectively online, and we are proud of having worked closely with the White House to provide privacy protections for users."



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How to make a Tyranny: Data Mine
By TheEinstein on 8/12/2009 4:37:40 PM , Rating: 5
I am something of a statistical 'geek'. Computer based statistics that is. I also wrote a book on security. I am giving this back ground information so you understand my background enough to judge my following statement.

There is a means, with enough information, to judge a person's actions to a fine level. It's a statistical modeling system which can tell you within a few percentage points of what that person is like. Pascals Triangle is a great way to model this. In a sense when you are dealing with a high enough number set, the chances of a person being something at the extreme edge of a possible range is all but eliminated. You just model the center of their personal aspects, and then you almost know with a high certainty what that persons desired activities in relation to events will be. Project Able Danger must have used aspects similar to this.

It takes a bit of data, usually, though sometimes you can use a lot less with strong data points (Like trained in terrorist camp alpha type information), but you can start generating a basic pattern that this person will generally follow. Sometimes you can refine this to a point of knowing even better than generally but not to the point of specifically.

I was worried that the Government might work with Google to do this sort of thing (Obama's Government). Google retains information for 1.5 years on all searches, and they are rabidly on the left. Gore or a proxy of his, sits on the board of directors, they disallow gun ads entirely and try to down rate certain types of webpages which are against certain heart felt feelings of theirs.

I cannot under-estimate this danger.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic...

If you thought camera's on every street corner, and a government tattle tale program tied together would be bad, then you should be terrified of this. This ties in the biggest data source in the world to a corrupt Government. Data mining will take on a new meaning. Let me list the issues:

1) Polling
Tying the Google data mined materials together with government will in effect tell them what percentage of the population feels like at a given time. Thus the government can know when to push a bill and in what manner. Since they will know what key words people use for searches, they can avoid ones which show alarm, panic, and the likes. Look for bills with more unique wording from this.

2) Censorship
Find a webpage with alarming information on xyzwebsite.gov ?? Then your going to put this online, talk about it, try to get people upset, it's almost to a point the news could see it, then *poof* it is edited. It was found on the total hits increase (a spike) and then key word association with it is examined, and it is quickly removed, edited, or else wise to make it changed.

3) Protester modeling

You can determine who is likely to show up to protest at a Town Hall, even in some cases data mine the exact list without knowing more than a user name or online signature. Further you can determine locations of protesters, their ideal traveling distances to things, and plan events in much more favorable zones, with ease.

4) The Scary Stuff
The Church of Scientology already does this aspect a bit. They use a truth detector in their 'religious confessions' and they record the data 'confessed' by their members. If you try to leave they generate a profile of things others may believe about you, and then spread this around. This is documented, but they survive by suing the hell outta anyone who tries to get them.

With this data source you have the profile of people. You can not just understand the person, you can understand how to destroy the person, how to frame the person, how to emotionally neutralize the person, etc. You can do this with ease, you can do it to the highest levels, and there is no way to stop it except to stop going online at all (or so far in this case avoid Google entirely)

Information Google can easily tell on me: Veteran, interested in military science, weapons, equipment; Security Expert, keeps up on equipment, wrote an extensive book (not published but findable online for a while) on security, knows how to defeat security; Statistics expert, wrote a couple of white-papers to some various websites, has had some fail and some succeed, works on probabilities to the highest levels as a hobby, drives around the United States (I am currently a truck driver, job security thing) as he seeks maps to various odd locations, mostly warehouses (So they know I am highly likely to be a truck driver), and so forth; Politically active, Republican, activist type levels, elected precinct committeeman, conservative values, all easily minable. Also my interests in science, games, and the likes is pretty easy to put together.

The simple data mining is above

Now with this data they can formulate certain possible characteristics on me, especially based upon web articles which generate the most interest. I think Angry is an easy one, which you could guess if you had access to any amount of data. Alarmist is another that could be found with ease, as I see things like you do, and I know things as well. Now my accessing certain types of sites also indicates a possibility to them I am sure, of my desire to see weapon design and effectiveness, that my science based knowledge can back up this. I could easily be nailed to the exact point where I would break under a tyrannical government in the formation with a few percentage points most of deviation.

If I was President right now, and had access to this stuff, and my own statistical modeling skills, I could direct a team to make a complex model that would allow me to be able to take over. I am not kidding in this sirs and madams. I am not one to joke when so serious. This is a line that cannot be crossed, and this is as big a threat to us as the Government arresting 100 of the top complainers against the government for trumped up charges as well as placing cameras around the nation, bankrupting everyone, and offering payments to people to narc eachother out for anti-government feelings.

Please help fight this effort NOW.




By TheEinstein on 8/12/2009 5:55:46 PM , Rating: 2
To say that cookies are not enough is an error.

You post to here, you post to there, you post everywhere.

The pattern emerges that you are so and so on this site, and xyz on that site, and abc on those sites.

The pattern becomes more identifiable, and more heuristic. You are now easily identified to your writings, so your writings now start defining you. Your searches also define you. Then they take the next leap...

Your choice of what key words elicit responses from you define you. Your choice of what colors keep you around define you. Your web layout preferences define you.

When the definition of what you are is made, you would be surprised at how thorough a definition of you they have the ability to make. It's not hard, and it does not require a googelbyte of memory per a person.


RE: How to make a Tyranny: Data Mine
By MadMan007 on 8/12/2009 6:04:43 PM , Rating: 2
What an indepth post. I'd like to point out that #1 has been going on for some time, 'Patriot Act' (oppose it? What? You're UNpatriotic??) and 'No Child Left Behind' (Oppose it? You mean you WANT to leave children behind) quickly come to mind.


By TheEinstein on 8/12/2009 6:31:29 PM , Rating: 3
Those sir are resulting from a different system than what this represents.

While valid psychological points, that they do such, the Obama administration has been pushing this to an extreme.

Terrorism is dead, they replaced it with other words. War on Terror is now an "overseas contingency".

The internet however represents not these small efforts, but in essence the ability to forcibly control EVERYONE ultimately.


By SiliconDoc on 8/13/2009 9:34:28 AM , Rating: 2
Thank you for having an INTELLIGENT post, instead of a dismissive dingleberry smart aleck idiot know it all (know nothing) smarm retort.
Now it's up to the "oh, shut up !" sheeple to use their manipulated shrunken brains and trusting, bleeding heart souls to deny every word you printed, so they can "feel good and secure inside".


"I'm an Internet expert too. It's all right to wire the industrial zone only, but there are many problems if other regions of the North are wired." -- North Korean Supreme Commander Kim Jong-il














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